Well, pdill, at some point American voters will pick their poison… living with a mediocre lifesyle under Euro-socialism, or maintaining the potential to excel, and be rewarded financially for that excellence.

Right now, Obama’s base is youth, idealistic, and very “love the one you’re with” in construct… just as the bulk of the baby boomers were in the 60s. Nothing wrong with this idealism except that it doesn’t translate to reality successfully, as history show.

Point is, age, experience and getting taken to the cleaners for your efforts takes it’s toll. Easy to wish for no one ever in want, but a different story when you get older and finding yourself supporting your neighbor, who’d rather walk to a mailbox and get a government check than contribute by working for a living.

There’s a plethora of new grads, headed out into a world with little job opportunity. That’ll hurt on their student loans. Then, when they get them, they will find themselves in a world of salary caps… either government mandated, or a business necessity to stay afloat. If they become business owners, they will find out first hand what Obama’s disdain for small business means instead of just listening to conservatives describe the effects.

Yes… at some point, young Americans will make a choice if the Euro-socialism they voted for in ideology is all it’s cracked up to be in reality. By then, they’ll already be supporting me, and our home values and earning capacity will already be in the toilet.

It’s an expensive lesson, and may take some years to reverse. But as long as the young grow up to appreciate what America was founded on… which isn’t a welfare state… it will be reversed.

If not? Hey, glad to be six feet under, or ashes scattered to the winds. And I will be very appreciative I saw America at it’s finest… when it grew post WWI to a superpower and leader of innovation. My granddaughter? So sorry she will miss that experience, but she will adapt because it will be all she knows.

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That’s some darn good writing there Mata Harley! I’m with you all the way.

Franken is the epitome of why I so often scorn the Harvard elite. Instead of using his great God given brain (he really is a very smart guy) for a greater good, he has achieved all that he has by arrogance and the destruction and expense of others, much like many in the Obama administration.

I’ll say it again… I’ll take a Palin or a Glenn Beck ANYDAY over an arrogant, ruthless, mean spirited, Harvard elite.

I do fear with the advance of Acorn (now renamed) and monies flying into it, there may be just enough time to pull off a truly fraudulent 2012 Obama re election. It’s been a few decades in years of getting here, but never before have the radical left had this much power to “get the Alinsky and Soros agendas” into action.

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CRAP: The real question is when will you realize that YOU have been CON’d by CONservatism and the Republi-CON’s?

We haven’t had “convervatism” as an option for nigh over 15 plus years, CRAP. Hard to be “conned” by the non-existent.

What was your excuse for 8 years of failed policies by BUSH?? The Repucli-CON Agenda was a failure and your refuse to see it.

Tis rich… LOL “Failure” You ain’t seen nothing yet until you reap the benefits of your voting decision, CRAP. Two-three years.. yup… that’ll be a good start to see what’s coming in the economic cards for inflation, high interest rates, dollar in the toilet, expensive everything from cap and trade, and a new failed housing market because of it all. Without having much choice, I’ll be an Obama welfare state senior citizen, laughing my a$$ off at you, squirming to pay my bills and that of the rest of the baby boomers about to hit the system en masse.

In the meantime, Obama’s benefitting from Bush’s foreign policy in Iraq. Obama’s Iraq legacy is not to screw up what Bush and the Iraqi SOFA have accomplished… if he can manage that. At the same time, James Jones, his Nat’l security advisor is telling Lehrer that there is a “slight chance” we may have some improvement in Afghanistan, but not for years. Oh yes… Obama’s “Iraq” will not be the success that Baghdad is.

Meanwhile the rest of the world is testing the Eunuch in Chief because they want to see how much they can get away with before he plays CIC. Sooner or later he’s going to run out of other people’s money to throw at them…

Failure? Right on the horizon, and Franken’s in just in time to help take responsibility for it. Couldn’t have happened to a not-so-nicer guy.

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Point is, Mike, MN does *not* have a runnoff provision, so arguing that is moot. Their State, and their election laws. All we can do is have the option to have it examined in a court of law. Coleman did his thing, and either ran out of cash or impetus. Done deal. Case closed. Coleman quite and ceded.

At least we have that option, where the Iranians do not.

But of course Soros and the Alinsky movement have been working 24/7 to control key states. Mercy, they’ve been patiently laying the trap for decades, starting in the public education system with Ayers-style curriculum. What’s so damned depressing about it all is the population has now become dumbed down enough that they are successful at it. Apparently, the US voter is going to have to stick their fingers in the light socket before they figure out it’s not a bright idea. ala, Obama’s chickens will come home to roost… right at the time they start opening their wallets and finding it empty because of rising costs, piss poor no-choice health care, and not even a cool car to drive to take your mind off things.

Had to laugh at Cary on another thread, getting indignant, and over using what must be a new word for him… ad hominem. Wounded to the cyber-quick, he is, and complaining about the “personal attack” tactics (but not before many patient links and explanations were given…).

Didn’t have the heart to tell him it’s the foundation of Obama’s Alinsky “community organizing”; one of Saul’s own rules…. and that finally we conservatives are learning to fight back with the same successful tactics used for decades on us.

Consider Franken the last of “enough rope”, Mike. The conservatives have just enough time to watch the Dems and “moderate” GOP hang themselves… or follow the lead lemming (Obama) over the cliff. Hard to say what will come first. And then, it should be no more Mr. Nice Guy. The filth spewed by Democrats over the past eight years has become the new norm in politics. I don’t see any way of turning the clock back now.

Mata “glad to be an ol’ broad” Harley

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@MataHarley: If MN had a runoff provision this mess would not be taking place. There is no way the majority of MN voters would like to be saddled with that fool Franken.

What’s important to note here is that what happened in MN was PLANNED! Look at the George Soros Secretary of State project. They have been working to put their people into key states to facilitate the very shenanigans that were so common place in the MN Senate election.

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Wes, I’ve listened to Franken enough during his Air America days to judge his potential competence and thought processes as a Senator via his own, outspoken performance and political stands. I don’t care if he’s a Nobel Prize winner.

And I’m sure Larry W., who’s desperately trying to discredit any sort of written exams as a measure of performance for promotion in the wake of the SCOTUS Ricci decision, would find himself forced to agree that Franken’s sheepskin means whit as credentials for Congress.

I personally haven’t followed the MN fallout. Hey, if that crazy State can elevate Jesse Ventura to their Capitol dome, it’s not impossible they have a penchant for Franken. Whatever the truth of ballot shenanigans, a US court of law ruled. And while we still have that system in place, I’ll be accepting it… and relishing that it’s still around in some form. Who knows what lies ahead in Obama’s America. He obviously places no import in Honduras’ four big C’s … i.e. Courts, Congress, Council and Constitution.

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@wesmorgan1: You either seem resigned or comfortable with the FACT that this election was stolen.

Perhaps you should review history and look back at what has happened in the past when elections were allowed to degrade to such an unhealthy degree.

And whether you like it or not, there is no disputing that Al Franken is a CLOWN!

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Real American Patriot:
Two Court rulings including the The supreme court of Minnesota and they have ruled.

OK, so I have to ask you. Why is it that dems will now say that this election was valid and NOT stolen when in 2000 the US Supreme court RULED for Bush and suddenly… the election was stolen??

Just sounds very hypocritical and SOOOooo sterotypical in liberal actions – specifically – “Well when the ruling is AGAINST me, its wrong! When it is FOR ME, it is just and fair”

Care to share on that hypocrisy specifically?

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First, I don’t think it fair to name Franken lacking in ‘brains,’ or to paint him solely as a comedian or talk-radio guy. You may not like Harvard, but those folks don’t hand out cum laude degrees in political science as T passes, eh?

Secondly, there really isn’t any point in playing “dueling links.” The only links that matter are the rulings of the Election Contest Court and the Minnesota Supreme Court. Coleman made many arguments, including those mentioned in Mike’s links, but repeatedly failed to show evidence to justify the remedy he requested. Basically, he (Coleman) wanted what the 2000 Florida-vote-reconstruction people did (for argument points) after the fact; retroactively apply a single set of standards to the entire state when individual counties had been given leeway during the actual election. That’s a pretty high bar; you aren’t likely to get a court to overrule local officials who did their jobs properly just because folks in ‘that county over there’ screwed up their end of the deal.

(As someone else already mentioned, accusations of “stealing an election” also require you to condemn a healthy number of GOP and GOP-appointed judges, on both the ECC and the MN Supreme Court. If you want to criticize Justice Page (Alan Page, Pro Football Hall of Famer), do it to his face. *chuckle*)

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Mike, your question to CRAP must be rhetorical. Of course he’s a liar. He’s a moonbat. If the facts don’t fit their POV they ignore them or create some “facts” that do.

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