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	<title>Comments on: Obama O.K. With Inviting Murderers to 4th of July Weenie Roast</title>
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		<title>By: Cary</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2009/06/23/obama-ok-with-inviting-murderers-to-4th-of-july-weenie-roast/#comment-215935</link>
		<dc:creator>Cary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 19:28:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A stronger statement by Hillary, whom I suspect was staying low-key through the whole thing to support her boss, but may have handled this differently on her own:

&quot;Unfortunately, circumstances have changed, and participation by Iranian diplomats would not be appropriate in light of the unjust actions that the president and I have condemned,&quot; Secretary of State Hillary Clinton</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>A stronger statement by Hillary, whom I suspect was staying low-key through the whole thing to support her boss, but may have handled this differently on her own:</p>
<p>&#8220;Unfortunately, circumstances have changed, and participation by Iranian diplomats would not be appropriate in light of the unjust actions that the president and I have condemned,&#8221; Secretary of State Hillary Clinton</p>
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		<title>By: Brother Bob</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2009/06/23/obama-ok-with-inviting-murderers-to-4th-of-july-weenie-roast/#comment-215786</link>
		<dc:creator>Brother Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 11:39:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I noticed that too, Mike. Can we just have one frakkin&#039; news source that prints everything the WH said? For that matter, that was something I forgot to mention last night - does anyone have a link to the entire transcript?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>I noticed that too, Mike. Can we just have one frakkin&#8217; news source that prints everything the WH said? For that matter, that was something I forgot to mention last night &#8211; does anyone have a link to the entire transcript?</p>
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		<title>By: ditto</title>
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		<dc:creator>ditto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 08:00:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Brother Bob

Most broadcast news reports don&#039;t provide every single minute detail of a story. They edit down to essential elements of a story to allow for time to report other news. This is true for: FOX, CNN, NBC,ABC,CBS,MSNBC etc...

Having said that, what &quot;essential elements&quot; are included, is a result of the Editorial staff&#039;s opinion on what is &quot;essential&quot;. While I agree there are some who use personal political bias to decide what is cut, the ethical Journalist and Editor includes all the important facts, not just the ones that to support their bias. These ethics have degraded, starting with the days of &quot;yellow journalism&quot; and today they are at an all time low. (I&#039;ll point out that in the early part of the 1900&#039;s there were nearly as many conservative reporters as liberal ones, but the majority were moderates. Today the total of moderates and conservative journalists are roughly around 10% to 15%. I leave it for others to decide for themselves if there is a correlation between liberalism and unethical reporting bias.)

More telling of news bias are stories that are pulled to save political asses, and stories that are covered and re-covered ad absurdium in order to create political damage. Or the censorship methods of fluff reporting of useless &quot;news&quot; while ignoring totally very important news.  Until the Internet, people rarely realized just how much news they were missing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>@ Brother Bob</p>
<p>Most broadcast news reports don&#8217;t provide every single minute detail of a story. They edit down to essential elements of a story to allow for time to report other news. This is true for: FOX, CNN, NBC,ABC,CBS,MSNBC etc&#8230;</p>
<p>Having said that, what &#8220;essential elements&#8221; are included, is a result of the Editorial staff&#8217;s opinion on what is &#8220;essential&#8221;. While I agree there are some who use personal political bias to decide what is cut, the ethical Journalist and Editor includes all the important facts, not just the ones that to support their bias. These ethics have degraded, starting with the days of &#8220;yellow journalism&#8221; and today they are at an all time low. (I&#8217;ll point out that in the early part of the 1900&#8242;s there were nearly as many conservative reporters as liberal ones, but the majority were moderates. Today the total of moderates and conservative journalists are roughly around 10% to 15%. I leave it for others to decide for themselves if there is a correlation between liberalism and unethical reporting bias.)</p>
<p>More telling of news bias are stories that are pulled to save political asses, and stories that are covered and re-covered ad absurdium in order to create political damage. Or the censorship methods of fluff reporting of useless &#8220;news&#8221; while ignoring totally very important news.  Until the Internet, people rarely realized just how much news they were missing.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike's America</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2009/06/23/obama-ok-with-inviting-murderers-to-4th-of-july-weenie-roast/#comment-215736</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike's America</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 04:51:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-215729&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Brother Bob&lt;/a&gt;: The CNN story just has a different slant Bob. Obviously one that is very pro-Obama.

It never mentioned that the Iranians had not even bothered to RSVP.

I guess they were too busy killing people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>@<a href="#comment-215729" rel="nofollow">Brother Bob</a>: The CNN story just has a different slant Bob. Obviously one that is very pro-Obama.</p>
<p>It never mentioned that the Iranians had not even bothered to RSVP.</p>
<p>I guess they were too busy killing people.</p>
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		<title>By: Brother Bob</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2009/06/23/obama-ok-with-inviting-murderers-to-4th-of-july-weenie-roast/#comment-215729</link>
		<dc:creator>Brother Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 04:03:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As much as I hate to stand up for the MSM, it looks like Fox left out statements that said more about why the invites were withdrawn that makes the White House&#039;s statement a bit stronger:

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/06/24/white-house-rescinding-july-4-invitations-to-iran-diplomats/

Relatively speaking, of course. I still can&#039;t believe that this jacka**ery was even on the table to begin with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>As much as I hate to stand up for the MSM, it looks like Fox left out statements that said more about why the invites were withdrawn that makes the White House&#8217;s statement a bit stronger:</p>
<p><a href="http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/06/24/white-house-rescinding-july-4-invitations-to-iran-diplomats/" rel="nofollow">http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/06/24/white-house-rescinding-july-4-invitations-to-iran-diplomats/</a></p>
<p>Relatively speaking, of course. I still can&#8217;t believe that this jacka**ery was even on the table to begin with.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike's America</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2009/06/23/obama-ok-with-inviting-murderers-to-4th-of-july-weenie-roast/#comment-215721</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike's America</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 03:14:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-215702&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Missy&lt;/a&gt;: Obama just looks even weaker now that the Iranians have made it clear that they don&#039;t want to come to our Weenie Roast.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>@<a href="#comment-215702" rel="nofollow">Missy</a>: Obama just looks even weaker now that the Iranians have made it clear that they don&#8217;t want to come to our Weenie Roast.</p>
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		<title>By: Missy</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2009/06/23/obama-ok-with-inviting-murderers-to-4th-of-july-weenie-roast/#comment-215702</link>
		<dc:creator>Missy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 01:35:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;President Obama on Tuesday linked the attendance of Iranian diplomats to the potential for warming between the two nations.  

The United States and Iran don&#039;t have formal diplomatic relations but Obama said that it&#039;s up to the Iranian diplomats to decide whether to use an invitation to attend embassy festivities as an opening. 

&quot;I think that we have said that if Iran chooses a path that abides by international norms and principles, then we are interested in healing some of the wounds of 30 years in terms of U.S.-Iranian relations. But that is a choice that the Iranians are going to have to make,&quot; Obama said during a press conference in the White House briefing room. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

What an idiot, can&#039;t believe this is happening.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><blockquote><p>President Obama on Tuesday linked the attendance of Iranian diplomats to the potential for warming between the two nations.  </p>
<p>The United States and Iran don&#8217;t have formal diplomatic relations but Obama said that it&#8217;s up to the Iranian diplomats to decide whether to use an invitation to attend embassy festivities as an opening. </p>
<p>&#8220;I think that we have said that if Iran chooses a path that abides by international norms and principles, then we are interested in healing some of the wounds of 30 years in terms of U.S.-Iranian relations. But that is a choice that the Iranians are going to have to make,&#8221; Obama said during a press conference in the White House briefing room. </p></blockquote>
<p>What an idiot, can&#8217;t believe this is happening.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike's America</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike's America</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 21:56:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-215625&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Aye Chihuahua&lt;/a&gt;: So the Iranians didn&#039;t want to come anyway so the Obama Admin withdrew the invite to avoid losing face? Laughable.

If Obama was a Man President instead of a Boy President he would have withdrawn those invites immediately. Heck, they never should have been offered in the first place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>@<a href="#comment-215625" rel="nofollow">Aye Chihuahua</a>: So the Iranians didn&#8217;t want to come anyway so the Obama Admin withdrew the invite to avoid losing face? Laughable.</p>
<p>If Obama was a Man President instead of a Boy President he would have withdrawn those invites immediately. Heck, they never should have been offered in the first place.</p>
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		<title>By: Aye Chihuahua</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aye Chihuahua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 20:08:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/06/24/iranians-responding-july-th-embassy-invite/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The invitations have been withdrawn.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p><strong><a href="http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/06/24/iranians-responding-july-th-embassy-invite/" rel="nofollow">The invitations have been withdrawn.</a></strong></p>
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		<title>By: Missy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Missy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 18:36:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-215570&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;mooseburger&lt;/a&gt;: 

&lt;blockquote&gt;why not a peep from Conservatives toward Bush when this was going on&lt;/blockquote&gt;

How old are you?  Apparently not old enough to remember what was going on at the time.  Conservatives were outraged at what had happened with the Iraqis then, just as they are outraged at what is happening now.  Next.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>@<a href="#comment-215570" rel="nofollow">mooseburger</a>: </p>
<blockquote><p>why not a peep from Conservatives toward Bush when this was going on</p></blockquote>
<p>How old are you?  Apparently not old enough to remember what was going on at the time.  Conservatives were outraged at what had happened with the Iraqis then, just as they are outraged at what is happening now.  Next.</p>
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