[...] Flopping Aces » Blog Archive » Obama Press Conference: He’s Waiting to See How Iran Crisis “Pl… http://www.floppingaces.net/2009/06/23/from-obama-press-conference-hes-waiting-to-see-how-iran-crisis-plays-out – view page – cached #Flopping Aces RSS Feed Flopping Aces » Obama Press Conference: He’s Waiting to See How Iran Crisis “Plays Out” Comments Feed Flopping Aces Arafat Dead at Last Iranian Father Told He Must Pay for the Bullet That Killed His Son Obama “gets tough”… firmly defending his wuss response to Iran — From the page [...]

Like or Dislike: 0  0

Uffda! My post is in the filter. P&T!

Like or Dislike: 0  0

@RPL:

Point taken. Hamas has also sent fighters into Iran, of course they have a dog in this fight:

‘Hamas helping Iran crush dissent’

Palestinian Hamas members are helping the Iranian authorities crush street protests in support of reformist presidential candidate Mir Hossein Mousavi, two protesters told The Jerusalem Post On Tuesday.

–snip–

Hamas formally welcomed incumbent Ahmadinejad’s ostensible reelection victory on Saturday. The Palestinian Islamist movement receives arms and funding from Iran, and its members have often received training there, including in terror tactics and weapons manufacture.

Here we have anti-Hamas/Palestinian comments by protesters in Iran that also supports your pov.

“The most important thing that I believe people outside of Iran should be aware of,” the young man went on, “is the participation of Palestinian forces in these riots.”

Another protester, who spoke as he carried a kitchen knife in one hand and a stone in the other, also cited the presence of Hamas in Teheran.

On Monday, he said, “my brother had his ribs beaten in by those Palestinian animals. Taking our people’s money is not enough, they are thirsty for our blood too.”

It was ironic, this man said, that the victorious Ahmadinejad “tells us to pray for the young Palestinians, suffering at the hands of Israel.” His hope, he added, was that Israel would “come to its senses” and ruthlessly deal with the Palestinians.

When asked if these militia fighters could have been mistaken for Lebanese Shi’ites, sent by Hizbullah, he rejected the idea. “Ask anyone, they will tell you the same thing. They [Palestinian extremists] are out beating Iranians in the streets… The more we gave this arrogant race, the more they want… [But] we will not let them push us around in our own country.”

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull&cid=1245184851049

Like or Dislike: 0  0

I swear, Larry… for an intelligent guy, you have a senile vision of history.

For in fact, John Kerry and Howard Dean were on record during the campaign saying Bush was “too soft” on Iran.

Senator John Kerry echoed this sentiment on May 29, 2004, when he told the Washington Post that the Bush Administration has not “been tough on the [Iran] issue … which is the issue of nuclear weaponry, and again just like I said with North Korea, you have to keep your eye on the target.”

Even DNC chair hopeful Howard Dean, allegedly the liberal arm of the Democratic Party, concurs Bush has not been tough enough on Iran. The Forward quotes Dean as saying, “The United States has to … take a much harder line on Iran and Saudi Arabia because they’re funding terrorism.”

In fact, while campaigning for president, Dean argued that President Bush had been far too soft on Iran. In a March appearance on CBS’ Face The Nation, Dean even went so far as to say that “[President Bush] is beholden to the Saudis and the Iranians.”

Then, of course, that was followed by the hysterical Democrat rumour mill that Bush would be bombing and/or invading Iran before he left office… something that was only true in the minds of the truly uneducated. Bush has long been on record of seeing Iran’s future in the hands of the Iranian youth… as proven in these times.

But then, Bush would be lending them support. Just as he did with his media initiative starting in 2005, followed by the “Democracy Program” initiative in 2006 (which we’ve discussed here in prior threads, and that Mike posted on that program being dumped by your hero).

The difference between Bush and Obama is simply this… Bush banked on, and attempted to nurture, the voices of freedom he knew lived in Iran and were slowly becoming the majority of the population. Obama, on the other hand, banks on the current regime holding power and negotiating with them. It’s obvious he has no intention of inspiring the Iranian youth, nor lending them an iota of aid… as that moment of decision is now.

This pretty much disses your “breast beating” comment as being an uneducated, and politically bigoted opinion.

As far as “chicken hawk”, I have to wonder if you have a clue what it means? In the political slang world, it’s a war monger who was a draft dodger. Since you use that term in the generic sense, it’s not applicable. But if you’re suggesting it’s beating the drums of war, then you too suffer from only being able to see extremes and not the spectrum.

As I’ve pointed out in my latest post, and in previous comments, the US has used military aid to many oppressed citizens… and probably many of which you supported when they were lead by your other heros in the Democrat world. The US has also used funding and arming of rebel movements, as well as sanctions… from light to extreme.

What you miss is that America – pre the Eunuch – used to come to the aid of the oppressed who were fighting for freedom in any way they could, and deemed most wise.

Obama’s America stands back and takes a “wait and see”. It matters not to Obama, and to you… the quintessential O’faithful… that the corrupt and oppressive regime holds all the cards, and all the military and police weaponry. Nor do you care that the Iranian citizens don’t have a 2nd Amendment to protect them against exactly what the framers and founders had in mind for Colonial America.

Just how long do you think they can protest in the streets, murdered before the world’s eyes, while the soon to be former most powerful nation in the world.. the US… stands by to see who’ll win the battle? They have no defense against Iranian thuggery.

And apparently, in Obama’s America, they have no friends and support either. Just “mourning”, “appalled” and condemnation lip service. Well that crap don’t deflect bullets.

Like or Dislike: 0  0

@Mike’s America:

Thanks. But, I will give Larry credit for this, he may not have much to say, but he says it well.

Like or Dislike: 0  0

@yonason: Regarding the error you received. Yes, I got that today as well. Fortunately, unlike some moonbats it went away.

P.S. You pegged Larry… Negroponte?

Like or Dislike: 0  0

@RPL:

more “hope” and “change” ?

Listen carefully to Mousavi,…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlYK2bRv9bg
…and you will see that he objects only to how they say “wipe Israel off the map,” but not to the concept, and that he subscribes to the myth that the Arabs are the leftitimate inhabitants from whom Jews are stealing the land. Don’t tell me he’s not going to side with them against us.

Even the Shah was a “truther.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQgZ3oLp_WY
And, for a “friend” of Israel, he had a strange way of showing it, by siding with Egypt against Israel in the Yom Kippur War.

more “hope” and “change” ? Maybe THIS time it’ll work?

Like or Dislike: 0  0

ANYONE ELSE GETTING THIS ERROR?

The website cannot display the page
HTTP 405
Most likely cause:•The website has a programming error.
What you can try:
Go back to the previous page.

More information

This error (HTTP 405 Method Not Allowed) means that Internet Explorer was able to connect to the website, but the site has a programming error.

For more information about HTTP errors, see Help.

Like or Dislike: 0  0

“BO” really thinks the current regime in Iran is going to ‘go along’ and desire to engage in a path of international norms? After they have repeatedly said they want to annhialate Israel and America? After they have gone against the treaties and simply knowing what they believe in?

Like or Dislike: 0  0

@trizzlor

My point was that a large percentage of the Iranians don’t have the same level of hatred for the Jews/Israel as the hard liners do, and the hard liners control the purse strings for Hamas/Hezballah. If the hard liners fall, then the new government is likely to try and fix their economy (something the Iranian people want) There’ll be less money to go to funding H&H.

Without funding, terrorism should decline, and maybe the Jews, Arabs, and Iranis can make a relative peace. This would leave Israel intact, and would stick in Obama’s throat, as it’s my belief that he’s Carter II in his hatred for Jews and the state of Israel.

Like or Dislike: 0  0