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	<title>Comments on: Obama Puts Feet Up on Museum Piece Desk</title>
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		<title>By: Smorgasbord</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2009/06/10/obama-puts-feet-up-on-museum-piece-desk/#comment-342201</link>
		<dc:creator>Smorgasbord</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Sep 2011 02:27:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-342182&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Mike&lt;/a&gt;: #68
I had never heard of it before it was reported Obama did it.  The good thing is that it looks like there is glass on top of the desk, so they put their feet on it, not the desk.  It also bothers me that other presidents have done it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>@<a href="#comment-342182" rel="nofollow">Mike</a>: #68<br />
I had never heard of it before it was reported Obama did it.  The good thing is that it looks like there is glass on top of the desk, so they put their feet on it, not the desk.  It also bothers me that other presidents have done it.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2009/06/10/obama-puts-feet-up-on-museum-piece-desk/#comment-342182</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Sep 2011 20:45:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;&lt;i&gt;To make it even worse, the ship was an anti-slave ship to go after the slave ships.&lt;/i&gt;&quot;

Oh yes that makes it SO much &quot;worse&quot;. Good gracious, let me get my fainting pills.

&quot;&lt;i&gt;It is ALWAYS disrespectful to put your feet on SOMEONE ELSE’S furniture, no matter what party you belong to.&lt;/i&gt;&quot;

So why was there no outcry when any of the other presidents did it? Hmmmm? 
Seriously, I doubt you could find a president who hasn&#039;t put his feet up on it while in office. Get over it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>&#8220;<i>To make it even worse, the ship was an anti-slave ship to go after the slave ships.</i>&#8221;</p>
<p>Oh yes that makes it SO much &#8220;worse&#8221;. Good gracious, let me get my fainting pills.</p>
<p>&#8220;<i>It is ALWAYS disrespectful to put your feet on SOMEONE ELSE’S furniture, no matter what party you belong to.</i>&#8221;</p>
<p>So why was there no outcry when any of the other presidents did it? Hmmmm?<br />
Seriously, I doubt you could find a president who hasn&#8217;t put his feet up on it while in office. Get over it.</p>
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		<title>By: Smorgasbord</title>
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		<dc:creator>Smorgasbord</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Sep 2011 19:45:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To make it even worse, the ship was an anti-slave ship to go after the slave ships.

It is ALWAYS disrespectful to put your feet on SOMEONE ELSE&#039;S furniture, no matter what party you belong to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>To make it even worse, the ship was an anti-slave ship to go after the slave ships.</p>
<p>It is ALWAYS disrespectful to put your feet on SOMEONE ELSE&#8217;S furniture, no matter what party you belong to.</p>
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		<title>By: ilovebeeswarzone</title>
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		<dc:creator>ilovebeeswarzone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 May 2011 21:52:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The O ther Mike, yes, spring time has arrived upon us, time to transplant the flowers, and dig in to put the seeds, into the soil,
you must be digging too deep, cause you&#039;re getting  under the WORMS&#039;s HABITAT
AND THEY ARE BEGINNING TO MUNCH ON YOU&#039;RE BRAIN, ONE CELL AT THE TIME</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>The O ther Mike, yes, spring time has arrived upon us, time to transplant the flowers, and dig in to put the seeds, into the soil,<br />
you must be digging too deep, cause you&#8217;re getting  under the WORMS&#8217;s HABITAT<br />
AND THEY ARE BEGINNING TO MUNCH ON YOU&#8217;RE BRAIN, ONE CELL AT THE TIME</p>
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		<title>By: The Other Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Other Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 May 2011 18:39:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-326913&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;ilovebeeswarzone&lt;/a&gt;:  &quot;SO why not expecting the same medecine ,from this side of the POLITIC, and react like you are the saints and it is forgotten.&quot;

Sorry, I don&#039;t speak &#039;Retard&#039;. Could someone here translate this into English?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>@<a href="#comment-326913" rel="nofollow">ilovebeeswarzone</a>:  &#8220;SO why not expecting the same medecine ,from this side of the POLITIC, and react like you are the saints and it is forgotten.&#8221;</p>
<p>Sorry, I don&#8217;t speak &#8216;Retard&#8217;. Could someone here translate this into English?</p>
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		<title>By: The Other Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Other Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 May 2011 18:38:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having trouble letting go? :)

@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-326917&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;ilovebeeswarzone&lt;/a&gt;:  &quot;The Other Mike, I forgot something,.&quot;

I agree, you forgot to make a point or say anything that made sense. That&#039;s okay, a lot of racist people with low IQs have the same problem. 


&lt;em&gt;&quot;THE KLUE KLUX KLAN was on your side of the fence, the DEMOCRATS AND THEIR RACIST CARD,&lt;/em&gt;

Lol, yeah, riiiiiiiiiiiight, the &lt;em&gt;Democrats&lt;/em&gt; started the Ku Klux Klan. LOL! Better buy yourself a history book while you&#039;re out shopping for that Hooked On Phonics course. Maybe you can hire someone to read it to you.


&quot;&lt;em&gt;THE RACIST CARD, so don’t come here and accuse of race baiting, IT’S popular on your side…RACE BAITING, BUSH BASHING, AND MORE&lt;/em&gt;&quot;

I&#039;m sorry, I couldn&#039;t hear you over all the whining you were doing.  Better hurry, little Bee- Hee Haw is on in ten minutes. Lol!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Having trouble letting go? <img src='http://floppingaces.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>@<a href="#comment-326917" rel="nofollow">ilovebeeswarzone</a>:  &#8220;The Other Mike, I forgot something,.&#8221;</p>
<p>I agree, you forgot to make a point or say anything that made sense. That&#8217;s okay, a lot of racist people with low IQs have the same problem. </p>
<p><em>&#8220;THE KLUE KLUX KLAN was on your side of the fence, the DEMOCRATS AND THEIR RACIST CARD,</em></p>
<p>Lol, yeah, riiiiiiiiiiiight, the <em>Democrats</em> started the Ku Klux Klan. LOL! Better buy yourself a history book while you&#8217;re out shopping for that Hooked On Phonics course. Maybe you can hire someone to read it to you.</p>
<p>&#8220;<em>THE RACIST CARD, so don’t come here and accuse of race baiting, IT’S popular on your side…RACE BAITING, BUSH BASHING, AND MORE</em>&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry, I couldn&#8217;t hear you over all the whining you were doing.  Better hurry, little Bee- Hee Haw is on in ten minutes. Lol!</p>
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		<title>By: The Other Mike</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2009/06/10/obama-puts-feet-up-on-museum-piece-desk/#comment-326918</link>
		<dc:creator>The Other Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 May 2011 18:31:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;&quot;The Other Mike, you’r not only sickening, you’r mad,&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

Again, the word is &quot;you&#039;re&quot;. Spelling like a 2nd grader isn&#039;t exactly giving you much credibility. 

&lt;em&gt;&quot;get some help, you have no job here&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

I&#039;ll give your suggestion all the consideration it&#039;s due. 


&lt;em&gt;&quot;I’M DONE WITH YOU&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

Apparently you&#039;re lying about that too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p><em>&#8220;The Other Mike, you’r not only sickening, you’r mad,&#8221;</em></p>
<p>Again, the word is &#8220;you&#8217;re&#8221;. Spelling like a 2nd grader isn&#8217;t exactly giving you much credibility. </p>
<p><em>&#8220;get some help, you have no job here&#8221;</em></p>
<p>I&#8217;ll give your suggestion all the consideration it&#8217;s due. </p>
<p><em>&#8220;I’M DONE WITH YOU&#8221;</em></p>
<p>Apparently you&#8217;re lying about that too.</p>
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		<title>By: ilovebeeswarzone</title>
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		<dc:creator>ilovebeeswarzone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 May 2011 18:11:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Other Mike,  I forgot something,.
THE KLUE KLUX KLAN was on your side of the fence,
the DEMOCRATS AND THEIR RACIST CARD, STARTED IT AND ARE STILL ON 
THE RACIST CARD,  so don&#039;t come here and accuse of race baiting,
IT&#039;S popular on your side...RACE BAITING, BUSH BASHING, AND MORE</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>The Other Mike,  I forgot something,.<br />
THE KLUE KLUX KLAN was on your side of the fence,<br />
the DEMOCRATS AND THEIR RACIST CARD, STARTED IT AND ARE STILL ON<br />
THE RACIST CARD,  so don&#8217;t come here and accuse of race baiting,<br />
IT&#8217;S popular on your side&#8230;RACE BAITING, BUSH BASHING, AND MORE</p>
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		<title>By: ilovebeeswarzone</title>
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		<dc:creator>ilovebeeswarzone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 May 2011 18:03:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Other Mike, you&#039;r not only sickening, you&#039;r mad,
get some help, you have no job here
I&#039;M DONE WITH YOU</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>The Other Mike, you&#8217;r not only sickening, you&#8217;r mad,<br />
get some help, you have no job here<br />
I&#8217;M DONE WITH YOU</p>
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		<title>By: ilovebeeswarzone</title>
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		<dc:creator>ilovebeeswarzone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 May 2011 17:57:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Derm,   yes the liberals went too far on THE PRESIDENT BUSH as you said, SO why not expecting the same medecine ,from this side of the POLITIC, and react like you are the saints and it is forgotten.
just time to feel the pain you have injected to begin with. AND NO APPOLOGY NEEDED</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Derm,   yes the liberals went too far on THE PRESIDENT BUSH as you said, SO why not expecting the same medecine ,from this side of the POLITIC, and react like you are the saints and it is forgotten.<br />
just time to feel the pain you have injected to begin with. AND NO APPOLOGY NEEDED</p>
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