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kathie
14 years ago
Disgusted by lack of class……….loved the photoshop.
Actually, the photoshop would imply that Obama is insulting Islam.
Here’s another dignified “casual Sunday-dress” photo, Mike:
President Barack Obama talks to aides as he sits on the steps of the U.S. Ambassador’s residence in Paris in this handout photo taken in Paris, June 7, 2009 and later released by the White House.
REUTERS/Pete Souza/The White House/Handout
@Derm: You better find a better version of that photo if you want to make a point.
Old Ez
14 years ago
You gotta give Somebody (maybe not The One) credit on this one. He’s been getting his deserved flack here and there (not the MSM, of course) for kissing up to Islam and dissing Israel. In this photo, he gets to eat his cake and keep it too.
He is taking advantage of cultual differences in body languge.
Americans and Israelis see him talking to someone that he is very comfortable and open with, probably someone he condsiders a friend. He looks kicked back, very comfortable, and ready to settle in for a long, friendly conversation.
To Muslims, he is showing his feet to the world as an indication of what he really thinks of Netanyahu. They also see the friendly posture, but showing the feet gives away the “tell” to “those in the know” (Muslims) that The One is pulling the classic Islamic con on Netanyahu by showing Netanyahu and the western world a friendly face, all the while disrespecting him. This hints at the classic Islamic strategy of setting Netanyahu up for an unexpected stab in the back.
In his recent speech, he reminded them that he grew up with their ways, that he recognizes and understands their ways. Basiclly, he told them to look for signs like this.
He, or more likely someone in his admin, think that we poor dumb hicks are too stupid to realize what he is doing here. He (or they) really believe that anyone smart enough to “get” this, has to Lib, and therefore, won’t let the cat out of the bag because they agree with The One.
Either The One, or somebody advising (controling?) him, is very sharp. If you look closely, most of his “blunders” and “naiveites” accomplish something that often seems unintented. It has happened to often to be coincidence. We HAVE to quit thinking of him as stupid or naive. If we don’t, we will lose and the future of the nation is at stake. The classic Southern man knows that as long as your adversary thinks that he is smarter than you, your advantage will get you what you want 99% of the time. Just because he’s a Yankee, doesn’t mean that he can’t use this tactic also. Remember, underestimating your foe asures his victory.
Old Ez
14 years ago
Of course, I’m assuming that the only photoshopping is the star and moon (sickle?) in the lower photo.
luva the scissors
14 years ago
this photo to me shows laziness. is he to tired to sit up like an adult? is this job to tirering? wha the hell are his handlers thinking, do they not realize wha tthey are doing? do they give a crap?
FedUp
14 years ago
BO is bringing down the office of President of the United States. I think his attitude toward the Oval office says a great deal about a person who has no sense of history and the reverence due to the office. Every day this person makes me wish that Bush was back in office!
eaglewingz08
14 years ago
Sorry, but there are many things wrong with this President’s policies but putting his feet up on the desk during a phone conversation where the other party isn’t present is no slight to the other side. How many of us do things while we are on the phone that were the other person present while we did them, would be rude, obnoxious, etc? I would rather have Mr. Obama put his feet up on the desk, then have Mr. Clinton playing hide the cigar with an intern there. We have more important things to worry about than this shoes on desk distraction. It makes us look unserious and out to get Obama at any cost, like the worst of the Bush Deranged Syndromers.
Jarhead68
14 years ago
eaglewingz08…I agree…he probably isn’t the first one to do it, either, if the link in the first comment is valid. There’s so much more to criticize and ridicule than this photo.
@eaglewingz08: Granted there are more important things to criticize. And as you have noticed WE DO.
This just struck me as yet another example of Obama’s attitude in office.
Of course I could always hold back half of the posts I do on this subject until the outrage meter on each one hits a TEN but then you guys would accuse me of being soft on Obama.
I’ve got to say, I disagree with you here. As Mike said, this is a museum piece. He would not put his feet on the cheap furniture in my home, and I wouldn’t do it on the furniture at MY job. I realize that he trying to put off a relaxed image, but some things are just not proper. He should at least get a stool.
Michael
14 years ago
You better find a better version of that photo if you want to make a point
I think this is a bigger deal, and endemic to an overall attitude that President Obama might have. He has a history of being late, which contrasts with Bush’s obsession with punctuality.
I hate to sound so partisan here on what otherwise seems to be a trivial non-policy matter (so be it), but what also comes to mind is the description of the Clinton staffers. I think I read in Buzz Patterson’s Dereliction of Duty that the Clinton White House was run like a college frat house and devoid of the professionalism of the Bush Administration(s).
@Cary: And you’re not a moonbat either. I imagine if you lived outside the lefty bubble of New York you might develop a more centrist perspective. At least you have shown that when confronted with the full story you are able to see the merits of the case on our side.
Zuzu
14 years ago
So, looking forward to your correction on this bit:
“This may be the first time any President ever used the desk as a footstool, let alone permitted himself to be photographed doing so.”
Or do you hold me to a higher standard than you do a mulatto President?
And while we are on the matter of corrections. It’s a rare thing to call me to do. Yet commenter Michael is so consistently WRONG and never, ever admits it.
Michael
14 years ago
If you insist that I correct the text in the post I will happily do so after you show me where Obama has corrected the record after using a blatantly false quote by Winston Churchill on the subject of torture.
Weak sauce, Mike; very, very weak sauce. First of all, I’m not insisting that you correct the text. To the contrary: please leave your screwup out there for everyone to see. Second of all, I’m not getting this logic: “People I find despicable do something, so I’m going to do it too, despite the fact that it’s this very kind of thing that makes them despicable.”
Or do you hold me to a higher standard than you do a mulatto President?
No, but I can actually communicate with you, which I can’t do with the President. (Nice job working the “mulatto” non-sequitur in there, by the way. And southerners wonder why they’re stereotyped as racists…)
Though something tells me Bush has greater respect for the office than Obama.
Too bad, Mike: the tinfoil hat used to shut those voices out.
This thread is not a shining moment for you, Mr. Miller. You should probably avoid posting here again. Haven’t you run out of feet to stick in your mouth?
@Michael: You’re an idiot troll with more bile than brains. But apparently, you think I have a higher duty to speak and print the truth than the Mulatto President does.
He is a mulatto is he not or are you ignorant on that point as well?
Since obviously you can’t contribute anything useful here I don’t see the need to permit you to comment further on this post. I’m sure you’ll whine and cry about that but I have no obligation to permit you to continue with your bile laced rants.
Zuzu
14 years ago
“Or do you hold me to a higher standard than you do a mulatto President?”
May that phrase follow you wherever you go on the Internet. You deserve to be identified with it forever.
Since when did “mulatto” become a dirty word in the eyes of the PC sensitive?? Or white, caucausian, black, Asian, red (as in Native American Indian, not Communist), yellow or anything else that’s descriptive for race ID, for that matter? Or does that discussion about race the liberal progressive left insist we have only allow generic, non descriptive terms that are whispered in the dark of night?
Oh that you should be as enraged at the spending and financial instability of your own California state, Zuzu. Or the feds, busy taking down the dollar in value minute by minute, plotting the decreased earning potential for future generations to pay for their planned welfare state.
If this is your idea of picking a fight, your judgment is as questionable as our current POTUS.
@Curt: That’s a real crazy site. If anyone thinks that right wing “hate” is an issue, they should reflect on the more imminent danger of left wing hate on display at that page:
“and if something does happen, I’m not sure I’m going to be able to control myself…
So… just what ARE you going to do about it?
This is a country on the verge of Civil War II. The extremists of one wing are already taking it to the streets and shedding the blood of others. Its more mainstream members are either in denial or throwing their hands up saying “hey, not my fault”.
So, what IS the other wing going to do, other than whine and bitch and moan and complain? More blog posts? Letters to the editor? Appeals for some form of humanity? The continuation of “I’m outraged!” comments with nothing to back it other than the stamping of ones’ feet and crossing of ones’ arms?
It’s going to take more than that, folks, if you wish to not see this country devolve even further. The action has to be swift; it has to be decisive (regardless of how controversial it may be). I’m just not sure anyone has the cojones to do what’s necessary.”
I’ve heard some of this amped up hate rhetoric coming from my own little moonbat colony and I wonder how widespread it is.
The lefties won everything they always wanted in 2008 and they are STILL filled with hate and thoughts of violence.
Sick, Sick, Sick!
Michael
14 years ago
Suppose you explicate the text of your comment for us, Mike.
You choose your words for a specific purpose. Back during the campaign, you repeatedly referred to President Obama as “the junior senator from Illinois” in an attempt to underscore what you saw as his lack of preparation for the Presidency. You also called him “Barack HUSSEIN Obama” in an attempt to call attention to what you perceived as his Muslimness (and, incidentally, link him in readers’ minds with the leader of the country with which we’re at war). Again and again, you’ve called attention to his Chicago roots in an attempt to connect him to the widespread perception of corruption in that city’s government.
All these things are true, no doubt: he was the junior senator, his middle name is Hussein, and he does have a longstanding connection with Chicago. The important factor is not their truth or falsehood but, rather, the purposes you have for including them.
That brings us to your use of the word “mulatto.” (I don’t think that people are generally using that word any more, but, for the purpose of this discussion, we can pretend that it is still standard usage.) The president is, indeed, of mixed-race descent; in fact, I think that he once even referred to himself as “a mutt.” In the context of your comment, however, that fact is, as I’ve already mentioned, a non-sequitur. It has no bearing on the discussion at all, at least on the surface; why, then, did you mention it? You could have chosen any of a number of descriptions of the president: you could have written, “Or do you hold me to a higher standard than you do a 47-year-old President.” Or “a brown-eyed President.” Or “a nicotine-addicted President.” Or “a 6′ 2″ President.”
But you didn’t. You chose “mulatto.” Why? When you mentioned “junior senator,” “HUSSEIN,” and “Chicago,” you did it for a reason. You had a point to make. What was your point in specifying “mulatto?”
@Michael: I warned you once that further of your bile laced rants would be deleted. It’s beyond tolerant to allow you to continue with your overt race baiting, but I will indulge you this LAST TIME.
Note you say “his middle name is Barack. ” And you lecture me on accuracy?
The remainder of your screed is nothing more than an attempt to shut down ANY criticism of Obama as being the result of some racist, right wing smear job.
The only view of Obama you will permit is the slobbering, SLAVISH idolatry that is so pervasive in the “news” media.
Is there some law which permits you to trumpet the FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT, who proclaims his middle name is HUSSEIN, yet when I point out correctly that he is mulatto, and also use his middle name it’s a racist smear?
You’re an idiot.
P.S. And yes, that was your LAST warning. No more of your bile laced rants on this thread. Take it some where else.
Derm
14 years ago
Hahha, u pwnd yourself with this post. I love how you make a boneheaded criticism, get called out about it, try to come back with some vaguely offensive term and suddenly boo-hoo, everyone’s trying to call you a racist! Wow, the whole circle of life in a single comments section. As a proud liberal, all I can say is Keep up the good work here guys, your foaming frothing nonsensical attempts at political discourse contribute nothing but making anyone who isn’t already a Club For Growth member even more disgusted at what the Republican Party has become. Rock on!
@Derm: That advice coming from a member of the party that did nothing but engage in 8 years of hate directed at President Bush is nothing short of laughable for the hypocrisy and hubris it demonstrates.
Derm
14 years ago
Hypocrisy? When are you going to apologize for this ridiculous post, which has no basis in fact? It doesn’t differentiate Obama from any other President, not the least of which is the President your defending right now! How about just a tiny, tiny bit of intellectual honesty here, just for a change Mike?
And if you want to talk about hate, Liberals admittedly called for Bush’s impeachment, sometimes in shrill terms, but thats a little different from the kind of hate your side is preaching now. In the interest of fairness and intellectual honesty, I will agree that MANY liberal went too far in how they expressed their hate of Bush verbally, but when was the last time a liberal went on a shooting rampage?
You won’t answer any of my questions because you only operate on hate and fear, not facts. This blog post is shameful in it’s hypocrisy and is the definition of intellectual dishonesty: the advocacy of a position which the advocate knows or believes to be false or misleading.
Hmmm, Randi Rhodes and the Bush gunshot segment, Bush assasination movie, BushHitler, this week’s Bush/Ahmadinejad comparison. How about the kindly way the liberals have treated Sarah Palin and her family, death wishes for Dick Cheney, cheering Tony Snow’s death, Ronald Reagan’s death, more than shrill, plain evil.
@Derm: You people spewed vile hatred at Bush for EIGHT YEARS. You poisoned the well of polite political discourse and now you complain about the taste of the water? No stuff yourself.
You wrote the rules for dissent and now you want to change them. It used to be that your side claimed “dissent is the highest form of patriotism” misquoting Thomas Jefferson (and I haven’t heard ONE of you numskulls make a correction for that). But now we are in opposition, you paint our dissent as racism, or TREASON.
Give it a rest Derm. We’re over quota for race baiting hatemongers like you.
Michael
14 years ago
Mike: please explain why you chose the non-sequitur “mulatto” for use in your post.
Personally I think it’s fine if Obama or Bush have put their feet up on the desk. Storm in a tea-cup. What’s ridiculous if anyone think’s it okay for Bush to do it but not Obama or vice versa. Let’s have some consistency.
So do you agree that any criticism you have levelled toward Obama – purely in regards to his feet on the desk – is the same for Bush? That Bush also has no class too?
@GaffaUK: I didn’t say that either. Stop trying to put words in my mouth. Put them in your own mouth. Either that or put them……..
Malcom
14 years ago
Not a fan of Obama, but Bush did the same exact thing all the time, so let’s not get in an uproar, when Presidents of both stripes put their feet up on the desk.
Sucks when your own hate paints you into a corner. If you’ve the nerve to comprehend this moment for what it is – then your desire is above your folly. Maybe it’s not to late for an apology 🙂
Like your party elected elite, Chai, your response time to news and issues is indicative of their ineffectual leadership. Now, with your johnny come lately, and hallucinogenic “na na naa naaaaa na” , we can see how these bozos got into power.
Point taken, I’m late on this post. This entry is on fire over at reddit – so I had to take a look and I posed my comment without noticing date. Shelf life aside, it does seem that Mike’s America went silent after he obviously choked on his foot.
Mike’s America wrote: @GaffaUK: I didn’t say that either. Stop trying to put words in my mouth. Put them in your own mouth. Either that or put them……..
Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent.
– Isaac Asimov
Chai: Point taken, I’m late on this post. This entry is on fire over at reddit – so I had to take a look and I posed my comment without noticing date.
Well, Chai… looks like you have company in that johnny come lately department. But a very gracious “oh!. … right” you came back with.
Wasn’t hot of the press breaking, stuff… but then you’d have to hang around and get to know our Mike. He has a vast range of posting styles and subjects.
The Other Mike
12 years ago
Mike’s America: Lol, welcome to Failville, population: YOU.
You shoot yourself in the foot and don’t even have the grace or the balls to go, “Okay, I was wrong.” That’s all it would take, but noooooooo, not you. You have no integrity or honor, and simply cannot bring yourself to admit when you’ve made a mistake.
Disgusted by lack of class……….loved the photoshop.
Actually, the photoshop would imply that Obama is insulting Islam.
Here’s another dignified “casual Sunday-dress” photo, Mike:
REUTERS/Pete Souza/The White House/Handout
http://phoenixwoman.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/bush-feet-on-desk.jpg?w=300&h=198
@Derm: You better find a better version of that photo if you want to make a point.
You gotta give Somebody (maybe not The One) credit on this one. He’s been getting his deserved flack here and there (not the MSM, of course) for kissing up to Islam and dissing Israel. In this photo, he gets to eat his cake and keep it too.
He is taking advantage of cultual differences in body languge.
Americans and Israelis see him talking to someone that he is very comfortable and open with, probably someone he condsiders a friend. He looks kicked back, very comfortable, and ready to settle in for a long, friendly conversation.
To Muslims, he is showing his feet to the world as an indication of what he really thinks of Netanyahu. They also see the friendly posture, but showing the feet gives away the “tell” to “those in the know” (Muslims) that The One is pulling the classic Islamic con on Netanyahu by showing Netanyahu and the western world a friendly face, all the while disrespecting him. This hints at the classic Islamic strategy of setting Netanyahu up for an unexpected stab in the back.
In his recent speech, he reminded them that he grew up with their ways, that he recognizes and understands their ways. Basiclly, he told them to look for signs like this.
He, or more likely someone in his admin, think that we poor dumb hicks are too stupid to realize what he is doing here. He (or they) really believe that anyone smart enough to “get” this, has to Lib, and therefore, won’t let the cat out of the bag because they agree with The One.
Either The One, or somebody advising (controling?) him, is very sharp. If you look closely, most of his “blunders” and “naiveites” accomplish something that often seems unintented. It has happened to often to be coincidence. We HAVE to quit thinking of him as stupid or naive. If we don’t, we will lose and the future of the nation is at stake. The classic Southern man knows that as long as your adversary thinks that he is smarter than you, your advantage will get you what you want 99% of the time. Just because he’s a Yankee, doesn’t mean that he can’t use this tactic also. Remember, underestimating your foe asures his victory.
Of course, I’m assuming that the only photoshopping is the star and moon (sickle?) in the lower photo.
this photo to me shows laziness. is he to tired to sit up like an adult? is this job to tirering? wha the hell are his handlers thinking, do they not realize wha tthey are doing? do they give a crap?
BO is bringing down the office of President of the United States. I think his attitude toward the Oval office says a great deal about a person who has no sense of history and the reverence due to the office. Every day this person makes me wish that Bush was back in office!
Sorry, but there are many things wrong with this President’s policies but putting his feet up on the desk during a phone conversation where the other party isn’t present is no slight to the other side. How many of us do things while we are on the phone that were the other person present while we did them, would be rude, obnoxious, etc? I would rather have Mr. Obama put his feet up on the desk, then have Mr. Clinton playing hide the cigar with an intern there. We have more important things to worry about than this shoes on desk distraction. It makes us look unserious and out to get Obama at any cost, like the worst of the Bush Deranged Syndromers.
eaglewingz08…I agree…he probably isn’t the first one to do it, either, if the link in the first comment is valid. There’s so much more to criticize and ridicule than this photo.
@eaglewingz08: Granted there are more important things to criticize. And as you have noticed WE DO.
This just struck me as yet another example of Obama’s attitude in office.
Of course I could always hold back half of the posts I do on this subject until the outrage meter on each one hits a TEN but then you guys would accuse me of being soft on Obama.
@eaglewingz08:
I’ve got to say, I disagree with you here. As Mike said, this is a museum piece. He would not put his feet on the cheap furniture in my home, and I wouldn’t do it on the furniture at MY job. I realize that he trying to put off a relaxed image, but some things are just not proper. He should at least get a stool.
This is an absurd bit of goalpost-moving.
@Mike’s America:
It is what it is.
Thanks for posting that Aye… Trying to curry favor with the moonbats?
Though something tells me Bush has greater respect for the office than Obama.
Furthermore, a new question arises: Did the libbos who objected to Bush putting his feet up have the same reaction when Obama did it?
I think this is a bigger deal, and endemic to an overall attitude that President Obama might have. He has a history of being late, which contrasts with Bush’s obsession with punctuality.
I hate to sound so partisan here on what otherwise seems to be a trivial non-policy matter (so be it), but what also comes to mind is the description of the Clinton staffers. I think I read in Buzz Patterson’s Dereliction of Duty that the Clinton White House was run like a college frat house and devoid of the professionalism of the Bush Administration(s).
@Mike’s America:
I refer you to comment #12
@Cary: I don’t consider you a “libbo.”
@Mike’s America:
Thanks, Mike! I think that’s a good thing! LOL =)
@Cary: And you’re not a moonbat either. I imagine if you lived outside the lefty bubble of New York you might develop a more centrist perspective. At least you have shown that when confronted with the full story you are able to see the merits of the case on our side.
So, looking forward to your correction on this bit:
“This may be the first time any President ever used the desk as a footstool, let alone permitted himself to be photographed doing so.”
@Zuzu: Don’t hold your breath. I wouldn’t want you to pass out.
Ooh, there’s a surprise.
Well, no, Mike. He’s practicing what we in the reality-based community call “honesty” and “intellectual consistency.” You should look it up some time.
Thanks for doing the right thing, Aye Chihuahua.
@Michael:
@Zuzu:
The record actually has been corrected by Aye.
If you insist that I correct the text in the post I will happily do so after you show me where Obama has corrected the record after using a blatantly false quote by Winston Churchill on the subject of torture.
Or do you hold me to a higher standard than you do a mulatto President?
And while we are on the matter of corrections. It’s a rare thing to call me to do. Yet commenter Michael is so consistently WRONG and never, ever admits it.
Weak sauce, Mike; very, very weak sauce. First of all, I’m not insisting that you correct the text. To the contrary: please leave your screwup out there for everyone to see. Second of all, I’m not getting this logic: “People I find despicable do something, so I’m going to do it too, despite the fact that it’s this very kind of thing that makes them despicable.”
No, but I can actually communicate with you, which I can’t do with the President. (Nice job working the “mulatto” non-sequitur in there, by the way. And southerners wonder why they’re stereotyped as racists…)
Too bad, Mike: the tinfoil hat used to shut those voices out.
This thread is not a shining moment for you, Mr. Miller. You should probably avoid posting here again. Haven’t you run out of feet to stick in your mouth?
@Michael: You’re an idiot troll with more bile than brains. But apparently, you think I have a higher duty to speak and print the truth than the Mulatto President does.
He is a mulatto is he not or are you ignorant on that point as well?
Since obviously you can’t contribute anything useful here I don’t see the need to permit you to comment further on this post. I’m sure you’ll whine and cry about that but I have no obligation to permit you to continue with your bile laced rants.
“Or do you hold me to a higher standard than you do a mulatto President?”
May that phrase follow you wherever you go on the Internet. You deserve to be identified with it forever.
@Zuzu: Hmmm… I am confused. First you guys tag me for making an incorrect statement, then I make a correct one and you tag me again.
You libs were all braying about how wonderful it was to have the “first black president” which is not entirely correct.
And as I understand your remark, the not so subtle accusation of RACIST is another of those buzzwords to which you try and attach ANY critic of Obama.
In short ZuZu, you are a racist yourself.
And I have no doubt you will be identified as such forever.
P.S. Were you also aware that Obama’s middle name is Hussein? And yes, it’s now ok for us to say so.
Get over yourself!
Since when did “mulatto” become a dirty word in the eyes of the PC sensitive?? Or white, caucausian, black, Asian, red (as in Native American Indian, not Communist), yellow or anything else that’s descriptive for race ID, for that matter? Or does that discussion about race the liberal progressive left insist we have only allow generic, non descriptive terms that are whispered in the dark of night?
Oh that you should be as enraged at the spending and financial instability of your own California state, Zuzu. Or the feds, busy taking down the dollar in value minute by minute, plotting the decreased earning potential for future generations to pay for their planned welfare state.
If this is your idea of picking a fight, your judgment is as questionable as our current POTUS.
Zuzu went running home to Balloon Juice and Juan Cole….
http://www.balloon-juice.com/?p=22596#comment-1266169
@Curt: That’s a real crazy site. If anyone thinks that right wing “hate” is an issue, they should reflect on the more imminent danger of left wing hate on display at that page:
“and if something does happen, I’m not sure I’m going to be able to control myself…
So… just what ARE you going to do about it?
This is a country on the verge of Civil War II. The extremists of one wing are already taking it to the streets and shedding the blood of others. Its more mainstream members are either in denial or throwing their hands up saying “hey, not my fault”.
So, what IS the other wing going to do, other than whine and bitch and moan and complain? More blog posts? Letters to the editor? Appeals for some form of humanity? The continuation of “I’m outraged!” comments with nothing to back it other than the stamping of ones’ feet and crossing of ones’ arms?
It’s going to take more than that, folks, if you wish to not see this country devolve even further. The action has to be swift; it has to be decisive (regardless of how controversial it may be). I’m just not sure anyone has the cojones to do what’s necessary.”
I’ve heard some of this amped up hate rhetoric coming from my own little moonbat colony and I wonder how widespread it is.
The lefties won everything they always wanted in 2008 and they are STILL filled with hate and thoughts of violence.
Sick, Sick, Sick!
Suppose you explicate the text of your comment for us, Mike.
You choose your words for a specific purpose. Back during the campaign, you repeatedly referred to President Obama as “the junior senator from Illinois” in an attempt to underscore what you saw as his lack of preparation for the Presidency. You also called him “Barack HUSSEIN Obama” in an attempt to call attention to what you perceived as his Muslimness (and, incidentally, link him in readers’ minds with the leader of the country with which we’re at war). Again and again, you’ve called attention to his Chicago roots in an attempt to connect him to the widespread perception of corruption in that city’s government.
All these things are true, no doubt: he was the junior senator, his middle name is Hussein, and he does have a longstanding connection with Chicago. The important factor is not their truth or falsehood but, rather, the purposes you have for including them.
That brings us to your use of the word “mulatto.” (I don’t think that people are generally using that word any more, but, for the purpose of this discussion, we can pretend that it is still standard usage.) The president is, indeed, of mixed-race descent; in fact, I think that he once even referred to himself as “a mutt.” In the context of your comment, however, that fact is, as I’ve already mentioned, a non-sequitur. It has no bearing on the discussion at all, at least on the surface; why, then, did you mention it? You could have chosen any of a number of descriptions of the president: you could have written, “Or do you hold me to a higher standard than you do a 47-year-old President.” Or “a brown-eyed President.” Or “a nicotine-addicted President.” Or “a 6′ 2″ President.”
But you didn’t. You chose “mulatto.” Why? When you mentioned “junior senator,” “HUSSEIN,” and “Chicago,” you did it for a reason. You had a point to make. What was your point in specifying “mulatto?”
@Michael: I warned you once that further of your bile laced rants would be deleted. It’s beyond tolerant to allow you to continue with your overt race baiting, but I will indulge you this LAST TIME.
Note you say “his middle name is Barack. ” And you lecture me on accuracy?
The remainder of your screed is nothing more than an attempt to shut down ANY criticism of Obama as being the result of some racist, right wing smear job.
The only view of Obama you will permit is the slobbering, SLAVISH idolatry that is so pervasive in the “news” media.
Is there some law which permits you to trumpet the FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT, who proclaims his middle name is HUSSEIN, yet when I point out correctly that he is mulatto, and also use his middle name it’s a racist smear?
You’re an idiot.
P.S. And yes, that was your LAST warning. No more of your bile laced rants on this thread. Take it some where else.
Hahha, u pwnd yourself with this post. I love how you make a boneheaded criticism, get called out about it, try to come back with some vaguely offensive term and suddenly boo-hoo, everyone’s trying to call you a racist! Wow, the whole circle of life in a single comments section. As a proud liberal, all I can say is Keep up the good work here guys, your foaming frothing nonsensical attempts at political discourse contribute nothing but making anyone who isn’t already a Club For Growth member even more disgusted at what the Republican Party has become. Rock on!
@Derm: That advice coming from a member of the party that did nothing but engage in 8 years of hate directed at President Bush is nothing short of laughable for the hypocrisy and hubris it demonstrates.
Hypocrisy? When are you going to apologize for this ridiculous post, which has no basis in fact? It doesn’t differentiate Obama from any other President, not the least of which is the President your defending right now! How about just a tiny, tiny bit of intellectual honesty here, just for a change Mike?
And if you want to talk about hate, Liberals admittedly called for Bush’s impeachment, sometimes in shrill terms, but thats a little different from the kind of hate your side is preaching now. In the interest of fairness and intellectual honesty, I will agree that MANY liberal went too far in how they expressed their hate of Bush verbally, but when was the last time a liberal went on a shooting rampage?
You won’t answer any of my questions because you only operate on hate and fear, not facts. This blog post is shameful in it’s hypocrisy and is the definition of intellectual dishonesty: the advocacy of a position which the advocate knows or believes to be false or misleading.
@Derm:
Hmmm, Randi Rhodes and the Bush gunshot segment, Bush assasination movie, BushHitler, this week’s Bush/Ahmadinejad comparison. How about the kindly way the liberals have treated Sarah Palin and her family, death wishes for Dick Cheney, cheering Tony Snow’s death, Ronald Reagan’s death, more than shrill, plain evil.
@Derm: You people spewed vile hatred at Bush for EIGHT YEARS. You poisoned the well of polite political discourse and now you complain about the taste of the water? No stuff yourself.
You wrote the rules for dissent and now you want to change them. It used to be that your side claimed “dissent is the highest form of patriotism” misquoting Thomas Jefferson (and I haven’t heard ONE of you numskulls make a correction for that). But now we are in opposition, you paint our dissent as racism, or TREASON.
Give it a rest Derm. We’re over quota for race baiting hatemongers like you.
Mike: please explain why you chose the non-sequitur “mulatto” for use in your post.
@Michael: I have no interest in your blatant attempt at racebaiting.
You people have been fanning the flames of hate too much of late.
Give it a rest.
You raise the issue of race in a thread that has nothing to do with race, and I’m the one who’s racebaiting?
Amazing.
Hey Michael,
Have you seen Doc lately?
Personally I think it’s fine if Obama or Bush have put their feet up on the desk. Storm in a tea-cup. What’s ridiculous if anyone think’s it okay for Bush to do it but not Obama or vice versa. Let’s have some consistency.
@GaffaUK: “if anyone think’s it okay for Bush to do it”
Who said it was?
@ Mike
So do you agree that any criticism you have levelled toward Obama – purely in regards to his feet on the desk – is the same for Bush? That Bush also has no class too?
@GaffaUK: I didn’t say that either. Stop trying to put words in my mouth. Put them in your own mouth. Either that or put them……..
Not a fan of Obama, but Bush did the same exact thing all the time, so let’s not get in an uproar, when Presidents of both stripes put their feet up on the desk.
@ Mike’s America
Sucks when your own hate paints you into a corner. If you’ve the nerve to comprehend this moment for what it is – then your desire is above your folly. Maybe it’s not to late for an apology 🙂
Like your party elected elite, Chai, your response time to news and issues is indicative of their ineffectual leadership. Now, with your johnny come lately, and hallucinogenic “na na naa naaaaa na” , we can see how these bozos got into power.
@ Mata
Point taken, I’m late on this post. This entry is on fire over at reddit – so I had to take a look and I posed my comment without noticing date. Shelf life aside, it does seem that Mike’s America went silent after he obviously choked on his foot.
Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent.
– Isaac Asimov
Well, Chai… looks like you have company in that johnny come lately department. But a very gracious “oh!. … right” you came back with.
Wasn’t hot of the press breaking, stuff… but then you’d have to hang around and get to know our Mike. He has a vast range of posting styles and subjects.
Mike’s America: Lol, welcome to Failville, population: YOU.
You shoot yourself in the foot and don’t even have the grace or the balls to go, “Okay, I was wrong.” That’s all it would take, but noooooooo, not you. You have no integrity or honor, and simply cannot bring yourself to admit when you’ve made a mistake.
You’re a fine example of blind partisan politics.