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	<title>Comments on: The &#8220;Irresponsible&#8221; Californians Voted Down New Taxes Last Night</title>
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		<title>By: Old Trooper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Old Trooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 11:31:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>uri...You are 100% right. I am a Montana resident, born and raised. A registered Independent
and have a registered brand that dates back to 1888. 

Served at Ft. Ord in the 70s and California was beautiful but I was sent back to Georgia to train Rangers and never looked back.

Would I go to visit California again. Nope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>uri&#8230;You are 100% right. I am a Montana resident, born and raised. A registered Independent<br />
and have a registered brand that dates back to 1888. </p>
<p>Served at Ft. Ord in the 70s and California was beautiful but I was sent back to Georgia to train Rangers and never looked back.</p>
<p>Would I go to visit California again. Nope.</p>
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		<title>By: Flopping Aces » Blog Archive &#187; How California Can Save Itself Financially</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flopping Aces » Blog Archive &#187; How California Can Save Itself Financially</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 05:25:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Curt posted on Wednesday, California voters overwhelmingly rejected five referendums that would have meant [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2009/05/20/the-irresponsible-californians-voted-down-new-taxes-last-night/#comment-203116</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 04:20:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tax the tourists!</description>
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		<title>By: Hawk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hawk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 04:18:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>URI:&quot; Welcome to the new era of Socialism.68% of Americans love it! Am I wrong?&quot;

Don&#039;t take this the wrong way ... but i sure as heck hope you are.
If not - Hellooooo John Gault!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>URI:&#8221; Welcome to the new era of Socialism.68% of Americans love it! Am I wrong?&#8221;</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t take this the wrong way &#8230; but i sure as heck hope you are.<br />
If not &#8211; Hellooooo John Gault!</p>
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		<title>By: uri</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2009/05/20/the-irresponsible-californians-voted-down-new-taxes-last-night/#comment-203103</link>
		<dc:creator>uri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 02:52:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah....How clever of the Socialists..

Yesterday, 30% of people voted in California to reject tax increases.

The 70%  of Socialists stayed home and didn&#039;t care to vote because.....
YES&lt; OBAMA IS GOING TO ORDER THE BAILOUT OF CALIFORNIA. 

We, you and me, are going to pay for California with our hard earned money! Our Taxes! 

The polititians planned it really well, didn&#039;t they?

As a result of this bailout,  the era of State budgets is over and from now on the states are going to run budget deficits. (Only 4 States have no deficits right now: Montana, North Dakota, Wyoming and Alaska). 

Welcome to the new era of Socialism.

68% of Americans love it! 

Am I wrong?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Ah&#8230;.How clever of the Socialists..</p>
<p>Yesterday, 30% of people voted in California to reject tax increases.</p>
<p>The 70%  of Socialists stayed home and didn&#8217;t care to vote because&#8230;..<br />
YES&lt; OBAMA IS GOING TO ORDER THE BAILOUT OF CALIFORNIA. </p>
<p>We, you and me, are going to pay for California with our hard earned money! Our Taxes! </p>
<p>The polititians planned it really well, didn&#8217;t they?</p>
<p>As a result of this bailout,  the era of State budgets is over and from now on the states are going to run budget deficits. (Only 4 States have no deficits right now: Montana, North Dakota, Wyoming and Alaska). </p>
<p>Welcome to the new era of Socialism.</p>
<p>68% of Americans love it! </p>
<p>Am I wrong?</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Moon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Moon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 02:51:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Richard

It wasn&#039;t Enron.  It wasn&#039;t deregulation.  &quot;That government is best, that governs least.&quot;  What passes for regulation these days is simply government sleight of hand ... hidden taxes, hidden transfers, etc.  Bawney Fwank and Chris Dodd and the other looters in Congress would have you believe that the financial meltdown was caused by deregulation, when the exact opposite is true:  it was caused by massive government intervention in financial markets with the ostensible goal of increasing opportunities for home ownership.  While it sounded good, at least for mass media consumption, the reality was that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were simply channels to divert massive sums of money into the pockets of the congresscritters and their sleazy friends, while forcing banks to lend money to people who were flat out not qualified.  Not qualified, as in, won&#039;t pay the loans back.  Ergo, financial meltdown.  Oh, and by the way, all of us who smiled as our housing investments appreciated at 20% per year ... well that was just the other end of the mess.  The government artificially increased the demand for housing by making mortgage money ridiculously easy to get.  When the banks collapsed, so did the demand and therefore the price for housing.  And, yep, there went our investment.</description>
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<p>It wasn&#8217;t Enron.  It wasn&#8217;t deregulation.  &#8220;That government is best, that governs least.&#8221;  What passes for regulation these days is simply government sleight of hand &#8230; hidden taxes, hidden transfers, etc.  Bawney Fwank and Chris Dodd and the other looters in Congress would have you believe that the financial meltdown was caused by deregulation, when the exact opposite is true:  it was caused by massive government intervention in financial markets with the ostensible goal of increasing opportunities for home ownership.  While it sounded good, at least for mass media consumption, the reality was that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were simply channels to divert massive sums of money into the pockets of the congresscritters and their sleazy friends, while forcing banks to lend money to people who were flat out not qualified.  Not qualified, as in, won&#8217;t pay the loans back.  Ergo, financial meltdown.  Oh, and by the way, all of us who smiled as our housing investments appreciated at 20% per year &#8230; well that was just the other end of the mess.  The government artificially increased the demand for housing by making mortgage money ridiculously easy to get.  When the banks collapsed, so did the demand and therefore the price for housing.  And, yep, there went our investment.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom in Ca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom in Ca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 02:29:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CFO

Exactly how I feel.  Couldn&#039;t have said it better.  

Tom in Bankrupt CA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>CFO</p>
<p>Exactly how I feel.  Couldn&#8217;t have said it better.  </p>
<p>Tom in Bankrupt CA</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 00:24:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>California never recovered from the billions &quot;given&quot; to Enron. Another deregulation plan that went just a bit array.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>California never recovered from the billions &#8220;given&#8221; to Enron. Another deregulation plan that went just a bit array.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Malensek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Malensek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 00:12:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Media and leftists think Dems have this uber, popular, mandate.  They don&#039;t.  They barely won in 2006 by about 100k.  They barely won in 2008 despite having absolutely EVERY POSSIBLE ADVANTAGE.  Dems took Congress because Repubs continued the war in Iraq, and Repubs spent too much.  Dems have continued the war, and they&#039;re spending several times more then Repubs did.  They&#039;re goners.  At a time when people have had enough...they&#039;re looking to take more from everywhere and give it away on BS that ain&#039;t workin&#039; (9000 pork barrel projects, $1TRILLION in stimulus that is having the opposite effect, and so on).

California is Concord</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Media and leftists think Dems have this uber, popular, mandate.  They don&#8217;t.  They barely won in 2006 by about 100k.  They barely won in 2008 despite having absolutely EVERY POSSIBLE ADVANTAGE.  Dems took Congress because Repubs continued the war in Iraq, and Repubs spent too much.  Dems have continued the war, and they&#8217;re spending several times more then Repubs did.  They&#8217;re goners.  At a time when people have had enough&#8230;they&#8217;re looking to take more from everywhere and give it away on BS that ain&#8217;t workin&#8217; (9000 pork barrel projects, $1TRILLION in stimulus that is having the opposite effect, and so on).</p>
<p>California is Concord</p>
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		<title>By: luva the scissors</title>
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		<dc:creator>luva the scissors</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 23:37:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>put the state in bankruptsy.  then they havet o clean up their mess.  what has happened in california should be a lesson to many other states, they see all of the programs that the state funds there and they want to do as much for their people and then they end up as bad.  washington state tried to pas a family leave bill to pay anyone who had a baby to stay home, very similar to california&#039;s thing.  they wanted to tax all workers one penny per hour worked to pay for other peopes babies.  so workers who paid their own way, childless couples and single people with out children would have been footing the bill.  the state could not figure out which department of the state would oversee the program and how to make it work.  thankfully they shelved it, i didn&#039;t have maternity leave and we saved money and paid our way.   california will pay anyone to stay home.  hell they spend millions of dollars a year in los angelos to pay teachers who are facing complaints and aren&#039;t allowed to be around students.  that state created waste, hell, they have made it an artform.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>put the state in bankruptsy.  then they havet o clean up their mess.  what has happened in california should be a lesson to many other states, they see all of the programs that the state funds there and they want to do as much for their people and then they end up as bad.  washington state tried to pas a family leave bill to pay anyone who had a baby to stay home, very similar to california&#8217;s thing.  they wanted to tax all workers one penny per hour worked to pay for other peopes babies.  so workers who paid their own way, childless couples and single people with out children would have been footing the bill.  the state could not figure out which department of the state would oversee the program and how to make it work.  thankfully they shelved it, i didn&#8217;t have maternity leave and we saved money and paid our way.   california will pay anyone to stay home.  hell they spend millions of dollars a year in los angelos to pay teachers who are facing complaints and aren&#8217;t allowed to be around students.  that state created waste, hell, they have made it an artform.</p>
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