@GaffaUK: Does this mean you acknowledge reality here Gaffa?

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Hey Mike – still waiting for your answers on abortion on that other thread…

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@GaffaUK: “Why does it matter if Fox is cable”

It matters because so many Americans STILL get their primary news from one of the big three news outfits: ABC,NBC,CBS.

Those three reach approximately 20 million households each evening:

http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/evening_news_ratings/evening_news_ratings_week_of_may_11_116864.asp

If Fox News runs a story it gets viewed by many less viewers than the big three.

Do you understand now the not so subtle bias of not reporting a story like Pelosi?

Or do I need to explain it again?

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Gawd, Gaffa… you really need to get “out” more news wise.

The Biblical quotes was not a Rumsfeld thing. It was an Air Force Maj. Gen. Glen Shaffer thing who included them on the briefings back to Bush He retired in August 2003. As far as I can see, it’s only a story to dedicated conspiracists. Meaning what’s the story and why should anyone report on it without an agenda?

His bio is here. (translation, his briefings and biblical inclusions lasted a year)

So what’s your point? Or do you even have a point, and this is just your subtle suggestion meant to incite speculative frenzy far removed from a single fact?

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@Mike

Why does it matter if Fox is cable – seems that plenty of people have access to that now and Fox News is up there with ABC, CBS and NBC. I’m not denying there is a bias – but that the accusations are continous and bias in themselves.

Do the right ever point out bias in Fox? Do the right ever admit it if there are bias stories on ABC, CBS & NBC? It seems you want these channels to reflect your views as if your views are non-biased. All media gatekeep the news to what they feel is relevant.

And if you believe in the free market then what obligation should media have to report non-biased news (as if that was even possible).

btw – has FA reported the story about Rumsfeld placing Bible quotes on briefings? Haven’t seen that appear yet….

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8056207.stm

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@GaffaUK: Sorry, but Fox News is a CABLE network and is not considered one of the “Big Three” with traditional evening newscasts.

And ABC only arrived at the story late. If this had been a Republican each of the majors CBS, ABC, NBC would cover it nightly with breaking news reports throughout the day.

The bias here is undeniable.

And if you stopped spinning long enough you would realize it.

P.S. The Daily Show, CNN and MSNBC usually don’t even get the audience COMBINED that Fox News gets and it is a very small slice of the overall pie.

I gave you links to all the information you may have needed to form an intelligent opinion on this issue and yet you continue to spin. What’s up with that? Can’t face the fact that you are WRONG and badly informed?

Oh well! We can’t all be perfect.

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@Mike

So out of the Big Four TV networks we know at least Fox and ABC carried it – so that’s 50% of the main channels. As I don’t have access to 24 hr access to US TV and I doubt you watch it around the clock either – we can’t be sure on NBC and CBS. And I wouldn’t trust such a blatant resource as newsbusters who only report so called ‘liberal’ bias.

You mention 70 million potential viewers but it seems individual news programmes are lucky to get one-tenth of that out of a population of 300 million. The Pelosi story has been reported on Daily Show, CNN and MSNBC – and by the chart you linked a large slice of viewing is now cable. Add the millions who used the internet or newspapers for news then this story is hardly buried.

Plus you seem to make out that the gatekeepers of news at US networks are people like me. So how do I as an individual go about holding the left accountable?

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@GaffaUK: Did you miss this?

“Some major networks did finally carry the Pelosi news conference, but stressed her accusation that the CIA lied to congress.”

I notice you cite fox news. THEY covered this story from the beginning.

And as for the other links you provided, they are mostly AP reports.

Other than ABC, did you find a major network (CNN doesn’t count. Have you seen their viewer numbers) that BROADCAST this story and not just the Pelosi accusation?

You do understand the difference between an AP report on a web site and a broadcast report don’t you?

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@Mike

Most of the networkds did NOT cover the revelation from Obama’s CIA Director which said they did NOT lie.

Did they?

http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=7598881
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/05/15/ap/politics/main5017215.shtml?source=search_story
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/05/15/panetta-urges-agency-to-ignore-the-noise/
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/05/16/panetta-makes-speech-cia-director-amid-controversy-pelosis-charges/
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30745209

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@GaffaUk: You cite the Daily Show as an example of news balance?

Are you aware how few people watch that show? 871,000 average viewers for primetime Comedy Central broadcasts out of a potential evening television audience of 70 million or more.

The bias on the Pelosi story is one of omission. If the major networks don’t report it, it didn’t happen. Some major networks did finally carry the Pelosi news conference, but stressed her accusation that the CIA lied to congress. People watching those broadcasts might be totally unaware that she had already said several versions of the story of what she knew and did.

Most of the networkds did NOT cover the revelation from Obama’s CIA Director which said they did NOT lie.

It’s a very serious, criminal matter to mislead congress. Unfortunately, the mainstream news organizations are ignoring the story as it tends to show that it is PELOSI who is lying to Congress.

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