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		<title>By: tfhr</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 22:23:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-199585&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;kozanne&lt;/a&gt;: 
@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-199583&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Mike’s America&lt;/a&gt;: 

Mike and kozanne,

Thanks for supplying the links but it doesn&#039;t do anything for me but raise more questions.  The phrase, &quot;atypical training&quot; jumps off of the page.  If it is true that Air Guard aircraft and crews from Alabama were involved in this matter then that would require another level of coordination not spoken to in the &quot;memo&quot;.  I understand that McCain has raised a question about that and I hope he does better following up on that than he did other recent endeavors he initiated.

It would be interesting to pursue a Freedom of Information Act query regarding training requirements satisfied by this particular flight with a Fraud, Waste and Abuse report filed alongside.

Hmmmm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>@<a href="#comment-199585" rel="nofollow">kozanne</a>:<br />
@<a href="#comment-199583" rel="nofollow">Mike’s America</a>: </p>
<p>Mike and kozanne,</p>
<p>Thanks for supplying the links but it doesn&#8217;t do anything for me but raise more questions.  The phrase, &#8220;atypical training&#8221; jumps off of the page.  If it is true that Air Guard aircraft and crews from Alabama were involved in this matter then that would require another level of coordination not spoken to in the &#8220;memo&#8221;.  I understand that McCain has raised a question about that and I hope he does better following up on that than he did other recent endeavors he initiated.</p>
<p>It would be interesting to pursue a Freedom of Information Act query regarding training requirements satisfied by this particular flight with a Fraud, Waste and Abuse report filed alongside.</p>
<p>Hmmmm.</p>
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		<title>By: SBSmith</title>
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		<dc:creator>SBSmith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 21:43:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t believe for one second that our gasbag in chief didn&#039;t know about this from the beginning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>I don&#8217;t believe for one second that our gasbag in chief didn&#8217;t know about this from the beginning.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike's America</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike's America</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 19:19:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-199585&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;kozanne&lt;/a&gt;: Thanks for that info. There is certainly something fishy about the Tuskegee escort here. It&#039;s not like that&#039;s their regular job. Maybe we will learn more when the Dept. of Defense makes their review public.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>@<a href="#comment-199585" rel="nofollow">kozanne</a>: Thanks for that info. There is certainly something fishy about the Tuskegee escort here. It&#8217;s not like that&#8217;s their regular job. Maybe we will learn more when the Dept. of Defense makes their review public.</p>
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		<title>By: kozanne</title>
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		<dc:creator>kozanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 16:12:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As to what I call the &quot;Tuskegee Factor&quot;, Gateway Pundit posits and interesting possibility:

http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/

--snip--


&quot;UPDATE: Dave Clark thinks their might be a Tuskegee connection:


I wonder if 2+2=4 here. The flyby is a curiosity in that the escort of the Presidents VC-25 were Alabama ANG F-16&#039;s from the 187th Fighter Wing, and who&#039;s roots go back to the Tuskegee airmen, the &quot;Red Tails.&quot; Their fame was to not lose a bomber/aircraft during escort.

George Lucas, a big contributor to the Obama campaign, is doing a movie on the Tuskegee airmen, and it could be that this escort &quot;training mission&quot; was a tax payer $300,000+ payback. How fitting it would be to show the Tuskegee&#039;s descendants flying such an important modern day escort mission as a movie closer.&quot;

Now, we know from the Chrysler debacle and 0bama&#039;s threats to CA that he is on a mission to pay back his campaign &#039;debts&#039;, even if it&#039;s by stealing from the taxpayer. So, the behavior would fit with the theory presented in GP......

Food for thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>As to what I call the &#8220;Tuskegee Factor&#8221;, Gateway Pundit posits and interesting possibility:</p>
<p><a href="http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/</a></p>
<p>&#8211;snip&#8211;</p>
<p>&#8220;UPDATE: Dave Clark thinks their might be a Tuskegee connection:</p>
<p>I wonder if 2+2=4 here. The flyby is a curiosity in that the escort of the Presidents VC-25 were Alabama ANG F-16&#8242;s from the 187th Fighter Wing, and who&#8217;s roots go back to the Tuskegee airmen, the &#8220;Red Tails.&#8221; Their fame was to not lose a bomber/aircraft during escort.</p>
<p>George Lucas, a big contributor to the Obama campaign, is doing a movie on the Tuskegee airmen, and it could be that this escort &#8220;training mission&#8221; was a tax payer $300,000+ payback. How fitting it would be to show the Tuskegee&#8217;s descendants flying such an important modern day escort mission as a movie closer.&#8221;</p>
<p>Now, we know from the Chrysler debacle and 0bama&#8217;s threats to CA that he is on a mission to pay back his campaign &#8216;debts&#8217;, even if it&#8217;s by stealing from the taxpayer. So, the behavior would fit with the theory presented in GP&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>Food for thought.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike's America</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike's America</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 15:59:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-199582&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;tfhr&lt;/a&gt;: The Obama White House has been pointing the finger at the Air Force.

But their own review is interesting:
http://static.cbslocal.com/station/wcbs/docs/flyover.pdf

It totally overlooks the big question which is WHO authorized this and why?

It suggests that no on in the White House Military office initiated the flight, even though the Deputy Director was fully aware. But at every point it fails to mention the WHO and WHY of the story.

Maybe we will get that kind of detail when the Dept. of Defense releases it&#039;s review.  But don&#039;t hold your breathe.

I would not have thought that just anybody could decide to take up one of the planes the President uses as Air Force One for a joy ride but I could be wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>@<a href="#comment-199582" rel="nofollow">tfhr</a>: The Obama White House has been pointing the finger at the Air Force.</p>
<p>But their own review is interesting:<br />
<a href="http://static.cbslocal.com/station/wcbs/docs/flyover.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://static.cbslocal.com/station/wcbs/docs/flyover.pdf</a></p>
<p>It totally overlooks the big question which is WHO authorized this and why?</p>
<p>It suggests that no on in the White House Military office initiated the flight, even though the Deputy Director was fully aware. But at every point it fails to mention the WHO and WHY of the story.</p>
<p>Maybe we will get that kind of detail when the Dept. of Defense releases it&#8217;s review.  But don&#8217;t hold your breathe.</p>
<p>I would not have thought that just anybody could decide to take up one of the planes the President uses as Air Force One for a joy ride but I could be wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: tfhr</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 15:50:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-199566&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;eaglewingz08&lt;/a&gt;: 

The American flag appears as such to give the appearance of forward movement.  It is the same for the American flags worn on the right shoulder of Army ACUs.

There should be a flag thrown, however, regarding the claim that this was a &quot;training exercise&quot;.  I doubt the USAF is any different but when we engage in any kind of training in the Army, there are specified tasks, established standards, and defined conditions given.  The Task, Conditions, and Standards are established before any activity is initiated.

Someone somewhere along the line has been asked, told, or has taken it upon themselves to make up a story about &quot;training&quot; after the event, it would seem.  At what level in the chain of command this took place I have no idea but it needs to be determined and the individual(s) involved need to be punished accordingly. 

Potentially worse than what may amount to a fraudulent effort to cover a clear case of waste and abuse is the 10 SEP 01 mindset that must prevail in order to allow such a stupid stunt to go on in the first place.  It leaves me wondering how far this failing runs within the Obama administration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>@<a href="#comment-199566" rel="nofollow">eaglewingz08</a>: </p>
<p>The American flag appears as such to give the appearance of forward movement.  It is the same for the American flags worn on the right shoulder of Army ACUs.</p>
<p>There should be a flag thrown, however, regarding the claim that this was a &#8220;training exercise&#8221;.  I doubt the USAF is any different but when we engage in any kind of training in the Army, there are specified tasks, established standards, and defined conditions given.  The Task, Conditions, and Standards are established before any activity is initiated.</p>
<p>Someone somewhere along the line has been asked, told, or has taken it upon themselves to make up a story about &#8220;training&#8221; after the event, it would seem.  At what level in the chain of command this took place I have no idea but it needs to be determined and the individual(s) involved need to be punished accordingly. </p>
<p>Potentially worse than what may amount to a fraudulent effort to cover a clear case of waste and abuse is the 10 SEP 01 mindset that must prevail in order to allow such a stupid stunt to go on in the first place.  It leaves me wondering how far this failing runs within the Obama administration.</p>
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		<title>By: eaglewingz08</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 14:57:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is there a reason the flag of the country is facing left not right on Scare Force One?</description>
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		<title>By: Mike's America</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 14:55:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-199475&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Old Trooper&lt;/a&gt;: Congratulations on your daughter going to the Air Force Academy. 

Glad to know there are still some folks proud enough of this country to want to serve.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>@<a href="#comment-199475" rel="nofollow">Old Trooper</a>: Congratulations on your daughter going to the Air Force Academy. </p>
<p>Glad to know there are still some folks proud enough of this country to want to serve.</p>
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		<title>By: philly_nj</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 12:42:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok so the original excuse was it was a &#039;secret training exercise/publicity photo shoot&#039; so secret that even President Obama wasn&#039;t consulted. 
&quot;Oh look a flying pig&quot; :)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Ok so the original excuse was it was a &#8216;secret training exercise/publicity photo shoot&#8217; so secret that even President Obama wasn&#8217;t consulted.<br />
&#8220;Oh look a flying pig&#8221; <img src='http://floppingaces.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
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		<title>By: Old Trooper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Old Trooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 08:58:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wes Clark would have a whole Squadron up there ...just because ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Wes Clark would have a whole Squadron up there &#8230;just because &#8230;</p>
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