Just let him try to take my guns. Will take a jump team to enter my home and take them. Someone needs to take him back to high school and give him a good civics class again, that is if he ever had one in the first place. Sounds to me like he’s been listening to that liberal wife of his tooooo much. And as far as Hillary goes, I’d bet she’d like to get her hands on a nice little 45 and sneak up behind Bill and say “hey, rememeber a few years ago??” “Well, it’s payback time”.

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[...] The NRA is growing rapidly (thanks to both valid concerns about Obama’s desire to ban guns and their free membership option), the GOP is pretty united on this topic, and even Blue Dog Dems are against gun control. But the tiresome, ongoing attempts by Democrats to restrict access to guns will probably not be nearly as effective as Obama’s backdoor methods. [...]

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[...] The NRA is growing rapidly (thanks to both valid concerns about Obama’s desire to ban guns and their free membership option), the GOP is pretty united on this topic, and even Blue Dog Dems are against gun control. But the tiresome, ongoing attempts by Democrats to restrict access to guns will probably not be nearly as effective as Obama’s backdoor methods. [...]

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Two countries with different extremes in gun laws…

A 7 year boy shot in the head in the US for ‘trespassing’

http://news.aol.com/article/texas-trespassing-shooting/472454

meanwhile Germany moves to ban paintballing…

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8041320.stm

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GIVEN-1:We know that anyone who negotiates, signs and enforces said treaty is in direct violation of their oath of office. (Not that seems to stop them anymore.)

GIVEN-2:The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.

(1) Does the Federal government have any authority to enter into treaties granting in effect powers that the Constitution have not delegated to them?

(2) Can the President legally sign onto a treaty that is in direct violation of our Constitution or constitutional rights?

(3) What would be the SCOTUS position?

(4) When violating their oath of office to enter into agreements with foreign dignitaries which clearly usurp the Constitution, are they guilty of treason?

(5) What can we do about it?

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MataHarley…doing homework for those that never did theirs is like my last deployment to Iraq.

Voting that mattered and my promise that those that voted would have votes counted and that I and my team would kill anyone that threatened them. Voters got home safe.

Others that did not want votes to matter got rule .308 judicially applied and Votes were counted.

My absentee ballot was most likely not counted but those that voted in Iraq for a first got that under my eyes and my watch.

Iraq is not Pakistan.. Obama never smoked dope in Iraq. But in Pakistan…

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Thanks for the explanation. You did ive me a better understanding of it. Thanks

Mata note: You’re very welcome, and thank you for asking a direct question many wouldn’t do.

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Flavor, you are thinking your legislative gun rights will remain within control of either (or both) the US federal and State laws… all of which have some sort of 2nd Amendment/RKBA on the books.

When you sign an international treaty, you supercede governance and law to a higher int’l authority and body for legislation that usurps current (or any future) federal and state law. The jurisdiction for enforcing this int’l law ( per the current treaty language) falls to the individual signatory nations (called States in treaties).

So how does this stop you from owning a gun? Guess you’ll have to ask that not of your local or federal representatives, but of your international representative. If you think you don’t like calling India for tech service, how will you feel when you want to register complaint to a Syrian, or some other UN honcho representative from an equally reprehensible nation, for int’l gun laws? Most countries that do not recognize RKBA at all.

Today you may be happy because nothing changes in your little back yard. But tomorrow, that int’l body may decide that you may not have anything higher than a .38 caliber revolver, and no semi-autos… or may even further limit magazine capacity sizes. You would only be able to purchase int’l approved ammo at whatever standards they deem acceptable, and instantly will become criminal if you do reloading. This, of course, has a side effect on US private enterprises like Dillon and Lee who’s equipment instantly becomes contraban, and anyone who makes their business as providing ammo instantly loses any clientele that isn’t a government approved entity for resale.

But this isn’t only about you… an int’l shared database puts at risk undercover law enforcement and intel operators. Any new mandates an int’l body wishes to make now allows that database to be a “round up” of newly defined criminals.

Treaties are always some form of limitation or infringement on sovereign powers. To cede US gun rights to int’l law is nothing less than a travesty.

Yeah paperwork, I have no problem with that for the safety of American citizens to keep guns out of the hands of criminals.

Laws do not keep guns out of the hands of criminals, and they don’t do no stinkin’ paperwork. They purchase on the black market. The only ones gun laws affect are law abiding citizens who voluntarily jump the paperwork hoops.

When an int’l body decides to impose a parameter that affects your ability to buy a gun – or the type of gun you are allowed to buy, and if you can obtain ammo for use – you will become a criminal when you, too, have to dodge paperwork merely for the uninfringeable right of self defense or sport.

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Help me out with this…………I am a democrat, and a avid gun lover. How does this stop me from owning a gun? This would only bother me if I had plans to sell guns across the border or overseas. Explain how this would effect me as a citizens who will just buy a gun?

Yeah paperwork, I have no problem with that for the safety of American citizens to keep guns out of the hands of criminals. Registration who cares, it’s already registered anyway, if another country has these numbers I would only worry if my gun was stolen which I report right away.

Help me understand this please.

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I think every state who values the second amendment should pass a law declaring sovereignty from federal gun laws. Alaska, Montana, and now Texas have introduced such legislation.

http://jdlong.wordpress.com/2009/05/05/texas-moves-to-assert-sovreignty-under-10th-amendment-moves-to-exempt-texas-only-firearms-from-fed-control/

BTW I couldn’t be more proud of my 4 yr old black lab, Gimli, who has never showed any aggression towards anyone, ever before, but bit the census employee who ignored his warning growl and walked into my yard univited anyway. He’s such a good boy!

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