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30 Apr
Obama Won’t Declassify Memos Which Prove Waterboarding Saved Lives!
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@MataHarley:
Sorry about diversion, but if it brings me up to speed I do appreciate the info. Also, even if links are old, sometimes one can still get them with “wayback” and key words can be searched to uncover other sources of the same info. That’s one good thing about internet redundancy.
regards
When you pile thru my links, you can then run thru the FA port archives that Wordsmith just provided.
So Mike… you still talking to us after we did a “hijack”? Well, let me try to remedy that. Did a search to see where Mike’s America was back then…. another voice in harmony.
Unaware….but not for long =)
Curt said “Unaware….but not for long =)” Reminds me of an episode of Futurama but if I share that one this thread will veer seriously off course.
I’m not sure why the Dubai Ports Deal got inserted into a thread on the declassification of memos related to foiled terror attacks but I’ll go this far.
My last comment on that subject from the link Mata supplied:
“Now that this deal is dead. What new Democrat manufactured hysteria will rise to take it’s place? Stay tuned!”
How many more episodes of Democrat manufactured hysteria have we seen since then? Someone want to make a list?
OK… can we get back to topic now?
@Mike’s America:
Can’t afford the paper to write it out on. It would be far easier to make a list of what they haven’t manufactured hystaria on, like….
…. uh, ….. I’ll have to get back to you on this, I’m sure I can find SOMETHING!
Triz, Bush inherited blind intelligence agencies and a gutted defense system. He corrected that and as a result obama is sitting much better than Bush was at this time in his presidency.
However, not only is obama dismantling that defense system, he’s making it a point to publicly project weakness to our enemies. This makes us much more likely to be attacked. Even though Bush had no time to make changes, you blame him for 9/11 which is staggeringly hypocritical considering clinton had 8 YEARS! True to form not only are you incapable of seeing this, you whine about obama being held to a double standard. If it looks familiar, it is because it’s the very double standard you held Bush to. So AFAIC you can suck it.
It’s like a trip thru memory lane, eh Mike? :0)
@MataHarley:
Here you are. I’ll just leave you all alone till your done reminiscing.
@Stephen:
@Grace Nearing:
Well Stephen and Grace, the ball is in your court now.
Obama has refused to release the memos just as Mike said that he would:
The question now is, will you come back here and make an apology for your erroneous predictions and your haughty attitude?
Probably not.
I won’t hold my breath waiting on you.
@Aye Chihuahua: Thanks for that update Aye. I don’t expect we will hear anything from Grace, but if we do I expect she’ll just insist Obama had nothing to do with the decision.
Yes, how convenient for Obie that some CIA functionary can cite: ” Executive Order 12958, as amended, which was signed and executed by the President on March 25, 2003. Under section 3.5.(a)(3)” which says:
Sec. 3.5. Mandatory Declassification Review. (a) Except as provided in paragraph (b) of this section, all information classified under this order or predecessor orders shall be subject to a review for declassification by the originating agency if:
…
3) the information has not been reviewed for declassification within the past 2 years. If the agency has reviewed the information within the past 2 years, or the information is the subject of pending litigation, the agency shall inform the requester of this fact and of the requesters appeal rights.
It’s entirely possible that if Obama wanted this info released he could over-ride that restriction. After all, he has the final say as to declassification.
And with libs still insisting that the documents Cheney cites prove waterboarding didn’t save lives we have no way to know for sure.
Unless of course Obama were to declassify the documents.
Hence, my original conclusion stands until proven otherwise.
Of course Cheney could appeal this decision and I hope he does. What a shame Obama doesn’t support Cheney’s efforts to get the truth to the American people.
I’ll post more on this soon.
Oh, let’s not make a judgement call based on circumstances that are unfolding before our eyes, it might be wrong even though it wasn’t even a long shot.
My instincts were telling me he wouldn’t release the other memos, Obama wants to prove he isn’t Bush, period.
This has been nothing but a political stunt that didn’t play well for the present administration, apparently there are some out there that can’t figure it out.
By not releasing the rest of the information he has proven that uniting the country is not a priority, chooses to leave the loose ends untied and leaves plenty to squabble over till when? Idiot!
I once heard one of my sons proclaim….”bat rastard” I think that term may be appropriate at this time.
@Mike’s America:
Ask and ye shall receive.
Cheney’s appealing.
Heh.
Get ready, Steven and Grace are getting ready to appologize…
….. any moment now …..
………… don’t fall asleep waiting …………
………………. stay tuned, any moment now …………………….
@Aye Chihuahua: Glad to hear Cheney is following up on this.
Meanwhile:
From Politico:
In other words, the lib cop out position that this is exclusively a CIA process is WRONG. Obama could give the order today to get those memos released.
@yonason: good find with the soundboard. Here’s the embed:
@Mike’s America:
Ok, I’ve learned how to do the others, but couldn’t figure out how to do that. Nice Job. Thanks.
@yonason: No, thank YOU! I’ve been using Pod Bean for embedded sounds and having trouble with it.
Looking forward to trying:
http://www.soundboard.com/index.aspx