[...] the threat of more future investigations and potential legal actions hangs over the head of the CIA and those who served in the previous administration. How is it that a self-avowed [...]

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But Aye, Angela read it on the Daily Kos so it HAS to be factual!

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@Angela:

For example the torture of KSMm did not prevent the Liberty tower attack because the torture of KSM happened in 2003 annd the liberty tower attack was foiled in 2002. The attack was foiled because one of the plotters got arrested and the others bagged the plot.

Hmmm….

KSM disagrees with you.

So does the CIA.

CIA Confirms: Waterboarding 9/11 Mastermind Led to Info that Aborted 9/11-Style Attack on Los Angeles

CNSNews.com) – The Central Intelligence Agency told CNSNews.com today that it stands by the assertion made in a May 30, 2005 Justice Department memo that the use of “enhanced techniques” of interrogation on al Qaeda leader Khalid Sheik Mohammed (KSM) — including the use of waterboarding — caused KSM to reveal information that allowed the U.S. government to thwart a planned attack on Los Angeles.

The May 30, 2005 Justice Department memo that details what happened in this regard was written by then-Principal Deputy Attorney General Steven G. Bradbury to John A. Rizzo, the senior deputy general counsel for the CIA.

“You have informed us that the interrogation of KSM—once enhanced techniques were employed—led to the discovery of a KSM plot, the ‘Second Wave,’ ‘to use East Asian operatives to crash a hijacked airliner into’ a building in Los Angeles,” says the memo.

“You have informed us that information obtained from KSM also led to the capture of Riduan bin Isomuddin, better known as Hambali, and the discover of the Guraba Cell, a 17-member Jemaah Islamiyah cell tasked with executing the ‘Second Wave,’” reads the memo. “More specifically, we understand that KSM admitted that he had [redaction] large sum of money to an al Qaeda associate [redaction] … Khan subsequently identified the associate (Zubair), who was then captured. Zubair, in turn, provided information that led to the arrest of Hambali. The information acquired from these captures allowed CIA interrogators to pose more specific questions to KSM, which led the CIA to Hambali’s brother, al Hadi. Using information obtained from multiple sources, al-Hadi was captured, and he subsequently identified the Garuba cell. With the aid of this additional information, interrogations of Hambali confirmed much of what was learned from KSM.”

A CIA spokesman confirmed to CNSNews.com today that the CIA stands by the factual assertions made here.

In the memo itself, the Justice Department’s Bradbury told the CIA’s Rossi: “Your office has informed us that the CIA believes that ‘the intelligence acquired from these interrogations has been a key reason why al Qa’ida has failed to launch a spectacular attack in the West since 11 September 2001.”

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We lose credibility when we get our facts wrong.

You’re right.

It’s a shame that happened to you on your very first post here.

Thanks for playing though.

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Unfortunately the rewriting is on our side which makes us look both pro-torture and stupid.

For example the torture of KSMm did not prevent the Liberty tower attack because the torture of KSM happened in 2003 annd the liberty tower attack was foiled in 2002. The attack was foiled because one of the plotters got arrested and the others bagged the plot. Torture had nothing to do with it.

We lose credibility when we get our facts wrong.

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You might want to read these storys.
I am so sick of the lefties who want to rewrite history and say there was no wmds and this is just some of what they let you know.
Bingo is right this is a dangerous world we live in. I can’t imagine anyone who will have other than tea with one of these monsters so the America people will suffer because of these democrats that run the American government.

Catherine

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3635381.stm
17 April, 2004,
Jordan ‘was chemical bomb target’
Al-Qaeda-linked terrorists planned a chemical attack on Jordan’s spy headquarters that could have killed 20,000 people, officials have said

http://www.nysun.com/editorials/iraqs-yellowcake/81328/
Iraq’s Yellowcake
July 7, 2008
Here’s a story you may have missed over the long holiday weekend: 550 metric tons of yellowcake uranium worth tens of millions of dollars were shipped out of Iraq to Canada.

But it took a second American war in Iraq to move the material out of the Middle East. For all the talk about America’s failure to discover Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction, this is a big deal.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/apr/19/key-witness-in-passport-fraud-case-fatally-shot/
Key witness in passport fraud case fatally shot
April 19,2009
Lt. Harris told federal authorities he obtained “passport information from a co-conspirator who works for the U.S. Department of State.”

Might want to read the whole story?

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a real mistake to try to criminalize policy disagreements.

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I’m with the Veep on this – let them bring it. Declassify ALL the information so that the people can see the tangible results of our intelligence service’s diligence.

But we know they don’t have the cajones to do it. Why? Because that would blow their shrieking torture case right out of the water.

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This is the final nail in the coffin of Obama’s phony claim to be a post-partisan President.

Taking an action like this, or even TALKING about taking it, amount to open warfare on the party out of power.

Can Obama really expect any Republicans to rally to his cause after this?

What Obama is talking about is WRONG on so many levels.

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