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		<title>By: MataHarley</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2009/04/14/obamas-words-mean-nothing-especially-on-piracy/#comment-192680</link>
		<dc:creator>MataHarley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 03:13:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;fortitude&quot;, Tom?  Bush had no lack of that in his character.  He has proven he can courageously bear untold amounts of abuse - even by that of his own nation - in the face of diversity.  That is an insulting explanation for Bush&#039;s lack of action.  

More accurately, there is no way the world, or Congress, would sanction US military action INRE the piracy... most especially since no ship flying US colors, and it&#039;s crew, had been seized.

The problem with Somalia is what comes after.  It&#039;s another long term nation-building endeavor.  And the UN and US experiences there are painfully on record.  

As far as the logic of self-defense for cargo ships, from what I read, the largest problem in arming the ship&#039;s crew is the various nations who&#039;s laws do not allow them into port with weaponry aboard.  Changing individual nation&#039;s laws would be a nightmare.

But I do understand they are putting together options in case Obama does want to go after the piracy nests on Somali land.  No problem with the int&#039;l world there as the UNSC has already given it&#039;s blessings for that.  However I doubt Obama will go on the offense in that manner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>&#8220;fortitude&#8221;, Tom?  Bush had no lack of that in his character.  He has proven he can courageously bear untold amounts of abuse &#8211; even by that of his own nation &#8211; in the face of diversity.  That is an insulting explanation for Bush&#8217;s lack of action.  </p>
<p>More accurately, there is no way the world, or Congress, would sanction US military action INRE the piracy&#8230; most especially since no ship flying US colors, and it&#8217;s crew, had been seized.</p>
<p>The problem with Somalia is what comes after.  It&#8217;s another long term nation-building endeavor.  And the UN and US experiences there are painfully on record.  </p>
<p>As far as the logic of self-defense for cargo ships, from what I read, the largest problem in arming the ship&#8217;s crew is the various nations who&#8217;s laws do not allow them into port with weaponry aboard.  Changing individual nation&#8217;s laws would be a nightmare.</p>
<p>But I do understand they are putting together options in case Obama does want to go after the piracy nests on Somali land.  No problem with the int&#8217;l world there as the UNSC has already given it&#8217;s blessings for that.  However I doubt Obama will go on the offense in that manner.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom the Redhunter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom the Redhunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 02:46:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, President Bush didn&#039;t have the forttitude to take on the pirates.  That is no excuse for Obama.  He needs to seize the moment and hit the pirate bases with everything from special ops to naval gunnery to airpower.  I&#039;m not talking WWII, just a few limited strikes.    He needs to do it now, while he has the public&#039;s attention on the matter.   The next few weeks will be critical.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Yes, President Bush didn&#8217;t have the forttitude to take on the pirates.  That is no excuse for Obama.  He needs to seize the moment and hit the pirate bases with everything from special ops to naval gunnery to airpower.  I&#8217;m not talking WWII, just a few limited strikes.    He needs to do it now, while he has the public&#8217;s attention on the matter.   The next few weeks will be critical.</p>
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		<title>By: JohnMcClane</title>
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		<dc:creator>JohnMcClane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 00:39:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I came across this article on President Bush&#039;s response to piracy (or privacy):
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;b&gt;Bush briefed, U.S. consulting allies on Somali pirates&lt;/b&gt;
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. President George W. Bush has been briefed about increasing attacks by Somali pirates off east Africa, and the United States is consulting with other U.N. Security Council members on ways to combat the threat, the White House said on Wednesday.

Calling it a &quot;a very complicated issue,&quot; White House spokeswoman Dana Perino gave no hint of what, if any, action the United States might take following the hijacking earlier this week of a Saudi supertanker with a $100 million oil cargo.

But she told reporters, &quot;The goal would be to try to help get this ship to safety, secure the crew and then work with our international partners to try to alleviate the piracy problem, full stop.&quot;

The rise of piracy off Somalia this year has driven up insurance costs, made some shipping companies divert around South Africa and prompted an unprecedented military response from NATO, the European Union and others.

The U.N. Security Council resolution that authorizes counterpiracy measures will expire on December 2, according to U.S. officials who say they are pressing for an extension.

But Pentagon press secretary Geoff Morrell said the piracy problem requires a larger international effort to bring political stability and economic aid to poverty-stricken Somalia.

&quot;You could have all the navies in the world having all their ships out there, you know, it&#039;s not going to ever solve this problem. It requires a holistic approach,&quot; he told reporters.

Even a systematic attempt to capture pirates in international waters would require &quot;a more global, systematic agreement on how to deal with pirates once caught,&quot; Morrell said. At present, it is unclear who would hold or try them.

U.S. defense officials have also stressed the need for more protective measures aboard commercial ships including the presence of armed security guards.

Pirates have taken a Thai fishing boat, a Greek bulk carrier and a Hong Kong-flagged ship heading to Iran since Saturday&#039;s capture of the supertanker. Saudi Arabia said the supertanker&#039;s owners were in talks over a possible ransom, despite official reservations about such negotiation.

All told, Somali pirates are currently holding at least 18 ships and 330 mariners from 25 countries hostage, according to figures released by the Defense Department.

The figures also showed that 95 piracy attacks have been reported in the Gulf of Aden this year so far and that 39 have proven successful.

&quot;The president has been briefed about it, and ensuring the safety and well-being of the crew is of paramount importance in preventing or dealing with issues of piracy,&quot; Perino said when asked whether any unilateral or concerted response was planned for dealing with the problem.

&quot;We&#039;re working with other members of the Security Council, right now, to see if there are actions that we can do to more effectively fight against piracy and prevent it,&quot; she said.

Perino said a key problem is that modern-day piracy is &quot;much more dangerous, and they have ... a lot more weapons.&quot;

(Reporting by Matt Spetalnick and David Morgan; editing by David Wiessler)

© Thomson Reuters 2009 All rights reserved&lt;/blockquote&gt;
http://www.reuters.com/article/wtMostRead/idUKTRE4AI6M520081119</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>I came across this article on President Bush&#8217;s response to piracy (or privacy):</p>
<blockquote><p><b>Bush briefed, U.S. consulting allies on Somali pirates</b><br />
WASHINGTON (Reuters) &#8211; U.S. President George W. Bush has been briefed about increasing attacks by Somali pirates off east Africa, and the United States is consulting with other U.N. Security Council members on ways to combat the threat, the White House said on Wednesday.</p>
<p>Calling it a &#8220;a very complicated issue,&#8221; White House spokeswoman Dana Perino gave no hint of what, if any, action the United States might take following the hijacking earlier this week of a Saudi supertanker with a $100 million oil cargo.</p>
<p>But she told reporters, &#8220;The goal would be to try to help get this ship to safety, secure the crew and then work with our international partners to try to alleviate the piracy problem, full stop.&#8221;</p>
<p>The rise of piracy off Somalia this year has driven up insurance costs, made some shipping companies divert around South Africa and prompted an unprecedented military response from NATO, the European Union and others.</p>
<p>The U.N. Security Council resolution that authorizes counterpiracy measures will expire on December 2, according to U.S. officials who say they are pressing for an extension.</p>
<p>But Pentagon press secretary Geoff Morrell said the piracy problem requires a larger international effort to bring political stability and economic aid to poverty-stricken Somalia.</p>
<p>&#8220;You could have all the navies in the world having all their ships out there, you know, it&#8217;s not going to ever solve this problem. It requires a holistic approach,&#8221; he told reporters.</p>
<p>Even a systematic attempt to capture pirates in international waters would require &#8220;a more global, systematic agreement on how to deal with pirates once caught,&#8221; Morrell said. At present, it is unclear who would hold or try them.</p>
<p>U.S. defense officials have also stressed the need for more protective measures aboard commercial ships including the presence of armed security guards.</p>
<p>Pirates have taken a Thai fishing boat, a Greek bulk carrier and a Hong Kong-flagged ship heading to Iran since Saturday&#8217;s capture of the supertanker. Saudi Arabia said the supertanker&#8217;s owners were in talks over a possible ransom, despite official reservations about such negotiation.</p>
<p>All told, Somali pirates are currently holding at least 18 ships and 330 mariners from 25 countries hostage, according to figures released by the Defense Department.</p>
<p>The figures also showed that 95 piracy attacks have been reported in the Gulf of Aden this year so far and that 39 have proven successful.</p>
<p>&#8220;The president has been briefed about it, and ensuring the safety and well-being of the crew is of paramount importance in preventing or dealing with issues of piracy,&#8221; Perino said when asked whether any unilateral or concerted response was planned for dealing with the problem.</p>
<p>&#8220;We&#8217;re working with other members of the Security Council, right now, to see if there are actions that we can do to more effectively fight against piracy and prevent it,&#8221; she said.</p>
<p>Perino said a key problem is that modern-day piracy is &#8220;much more dangerous, and they have &#8230; a lot more weapons.&#8221;</p>
<p>(Reporting by Matt Spetalnick and David Morgan; editing by David Wiessler)</p>
<p>© Thomson Reuters 2009 All rights reserved</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.reuters.com/article/wtMostRead/idUKTRE4AI6M520081119" rel="nofollow">http://www.reuters.com/article/wtMostRead/idUKTRE4AI6M520081119</a></p>
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		<title>By: Missy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Missy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 19:47:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-192549&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;mooseburger&lt;/a&gt;: 

You surprise me, didn&#039;t think you were of the childish bent.  This is just more of the same little dirt bombs the left has thrown around through out Bush&#039;s two terms, thought you were bigger than that.

One video shows Bush gaffs, so what, he never let on that he was going to part oceans, perform miracles and be the second Christ.  In the other video President Bush makes the same mistake as a majority of us have done.  I believed I saw the first crash video on 911, many have, our brains pulled a trick on us, but of course, Bush lied.

BTW, he said he&#039;d protect us and he did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>@<a href="#comment-192549" rel="nofollow">mooseburger</a>: </p>
<p>You surprise me, didn&#8217;t think you were of the childish bent.  This is just more of the same little dirt bombs the left has thrown around through out Bush&#8217;s two terms, thought you were bigger than that.</p>
<p>One video shows Bush gaffs, so what, he never let on that he was going to part oceans, perform miracles and be the second Christ.  In the other video President Bush makes the same mistake as a majority of us have done.  I believed I saw the first crash video on 911, many have, our brains pulled a trick on us, but of course, Bush lied.</p>
<p>BTW, he said he&#8217;d protect us and he did.</p>
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		<title>By: mooseburger</title>
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		<dc:creator>mooseburger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 18:50:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdsEdV_cXJc&amp;feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sm73wOuPL60&amp;feature=related
  
Obama has a long ways to go to out do his predecessor, but it&#039;s a start....</description>
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<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sm73wOuPL60&#038;feature=related" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sm73wOuPL60&#038;feature=related</a></p>
<p>Obama has a long ways to go to out do his predecessor, but it&#8217;s a start&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Lorraine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lorraine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 18:20:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That was quite a Freudian slip....or was it!  This man gives me the creeps.

Gee Mike...it must have been a great minds thing or something.....you beat me by 1 minute.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>That was quite a Freudian slip&#8230;.or was it!  This man gives me the creeps.</p>
<p>Gee Mike&#8230;it must have been a great minds thing or something&#8230;..you beat me by 1 minute.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike's America</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike's America</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 18:19:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a Freudian Slip which most likely relates to his Administration&#039;s plans to monitor us right wingers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>It&#8217;s a Freudian Slip which most likely relates to his Administration&#8217;s plans to monitor us right wingers.</p>
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		<title>By: TheFitzGerald</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheFitzGerald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 18:08:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good, thanks for the information.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Good, thanks for the information.</p>
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		<title>By: tarpon</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2009/04/14/obamas-words-mean-nothing-especially-on-piracy/#comment-192528</link>
		<dc:creator>tarpon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 17:52:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Captain obvious speaks ...

Obama is an ACTOR, the teleprompter is the real throne.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Captain obvious speaks &#8230;</p>
<p>Obama is an ACTOR, the teleprompter is the real throne.</p>
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		<title>By: Fit fit</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2009/04/14/obamas-words-mean-nothing-especially-on-piracy/#comment-192520</link>
		<dc:creator>Fit fit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 17:32:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Privateering.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Privateering.</p>
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