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		<title>By: GaffaUK</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2009/04/14/its-tea-time/#comment-193619</link>
		<dc:creator>GaffaUK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 04:28:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comrade Sig Von Felchmeister

I&#039;m not angry - just laughing at you losers like you.  You shouldn&#039;t tell other not to talk about china in a forum about america when you do that. What a hypocrite! Go on deny it...

I&#039;m interested in your expert knowledge on finance and China. I guess the taunt was too tricky for you too tackle. Although your history is shocking when you deny the contribution the US did in freeing your country. Why don&#039;t you go and join the teabaggers - sounds like you would enjoy that from your fixation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Comrade Sig Von Felchmeister</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not angry &#8211; just laughing at you losers like you.  You shouldn&#8217;t tell other not to talk about china in a forum about america when you do that. What a hypocrite! Go on deny it&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m interested in your expert knowledge on finance and China. I guess the taunt was too tricky for you too tackle. Although your history is shocking when you deny the contribution the US did in freeing your country. Why don&#8217;t you go and join the teabaggers &#8211; sounds like you would enjoy that from your fixation.</p>
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		<title>By: sigmundringeck</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 04:05:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oooohhh, the widdle Gaffa sounds so angry!!!
Needs to talk about china in a forum about america.
Perhaps you have not obtained your daily dose of being &quot;LAWRENCED&quot; today???

Didn&#039;t ride on the hot, vibrating motorbike of your counter-terrorist idol Lawrence of Arabia enough???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Oooohhh, the widdle Gaffa sounds so angry!!!<br />
Needs to talk about china in a forum about america.<br />
Perhaps you have not obtained your daily dose of being &#8220;LAWRENCED&#8221; today???</p>
<p>Didn&#8217;t ride on the hot, vibrating motorbike of your counter-terrorist idol Lawrence of Arabia enough???</p>
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		<title>By: GaffaUK</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2009/04/14/its-tea-time/#comment-193348</link>
		<dc:creator>GaffaUK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 12:56:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;You’ll note that we chinese are very worried that Obama is becoming more communist than us last time, and thus may affect our investments/loans in the US.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

If the americans stopped buying cheap crap from China - there wouldn&#039;t be any Chinese economy left to talk about;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><blockquote><p>You’ll note that we chinese are very worried that Obama is becoming more communist than us last time, and thus may affect our investments/loans in the US.</p></blockquote>
<p>If the americans stopped buying cheap crap from China &#8211; there wouldn&#8217;t be any Chinese economy left to talk about;)</p>
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		<title>By: GaffaUK</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 12:49:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately it seems Comrade Sig doesn&#039;t get democracy. In less 4 years time the voters of the US will be able to vote Obama out if they so wish. Unfortunately China is stuck with the same evil regime they have for decades for now. Mao is responsible for the deaths of millions of Chinese and yet a lot of them still worship him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Unfortunately it seems Comrade Sig doesn&#8217;t get democracy. In less 4 years time the voters of the US will be able to vote Obama out if they so wish. Unfortunately China is stuck with the same evil regime they have for decades for now. Mao is responsible for the deaths of millions of Chinese and yet a lot of them still worship him.</p>
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		<title>By: GaffaUK</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2009/04/14/its-tea-time/#comment-193297</link>
		<dc:creator>GaffaUK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 08:01:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Mike

So let&#039;s see 

&lt;blockquote&gt;Maybe a bit too early, cause the rally is getting tired in asia, and people are selling out of the bank stocks here.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Tangent from Tea Day Protest

&lt;blockquote&gt;Look at his comments in your T-shirt contest, saying he wonders how the winners will feel if gay lesbians vote for them or something like that. This sort of comment is obviously designed to upset people, and it’s not even connected to politics..&lt;/blockquote&gt;Tangent from Tea Day Protest

&lt;blockquote&gt;In china we are moving forwards, while in america, under dear leader Obama you are moving backwards into the darkness of dictatorship and communism...&lt;/blockquote&gt;Tangent from Tea Day Protest

&lt;blockquote&gt;Now, I know you are secretely gay and lust to bendover for Obama, just like you want to RIDE the hot, vibrating motorbike of your idol, Lawrence of Arabia(the great counter-terrorist expert), so try not to get your panties in a twist when we peaceful chinese point out what a jackass Obama is....&lt;/blockquote&gt;Tangent from Tea Day Protest

&lt;blockquote&gt;Did you know Gaffuk is in Australia? Not all that far from where you are. You two should get together sometime. If you do, make sure to get a video tape because I’d love to see the smackdown beating you give him….....&lt;/blockquote&gt;Tangent from Tea Day Protest

So if you me to stay on topic then surely others should do so as well - EVEN if they are replying to my original tangents. (Now that I&#039;ve been told)  Of course my tangents all represent a small minority of original tangents - including yours - on other threads. So happy to point those out - but that&#039;s only going to get us all annoyed. All I&#039;m asking if that the same &#039;guidelines&#039; are applied to all - irrespective if the person who posts a message is perceived rightwinger or leftwinger.

Personally - what&#039;s wrong with tangents - it&#039;s debate. Let&#039;s keep &#039;em!  Day after Day Obama bashing gets as dull as constant Bush bashing - so having tangents with history, religion and politics in other countries - is interesting. 

Anyway - let me know (hopefully without a jibe) your thoughts on this and if it&#039;s fair for all - then I won&#039;t ignore it.</description>
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<p>So let&#8217;s see </p>
<blockquote><p>Maybe a bit too early, cause the rally is getting tired in asia, and people are selling out of the bank stocks here.</p></blockquote>
<p>Tangent from Tea Day Protest</p>
<blockquote><p>Look at his comments in your T-shirt contest, saying he wonders how the winners will feel if gay lesbians vote for them or something like that. This sort of comment is obviously designed to upset people, and it’s not even connected to politics..</p></blockquote>
<p>Tangent from Tea Day Protest</p>
<blockquote><p>In china we are moving forwards, while in america, under dear leader Obama you are moving backwards into the darkness of dictatorship and communism&#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p>Tangent from Tea Day Protest</p>
<blockquote><p>Now, I know you are secretely gay and lust to bendover for Obama, just like you want to RIDE the hot, vibrating motorbike of your idol, Lawrence of Arabia(the great counter-terrorist expert), so try not to get your panties in a twist when we peaceful chinese point out what a jackass Obama is&#8230;.</p></blockquote>
<p>Tangent from Tea Day Protest</p>
<blockquote><p>Did you know Gaffuk is in Australia? Not all that far from where you are. You two should get together sometime. If you do, make sure to get a video tape because I’d love to see the smackdown beating you give him…&#8230;..</p></blockquote>
<p>Tangent from Tea Day Protest</p>
<p>So if you me to stay on topic then surely others should do so as well &#8211; EVEN if they are replying to my original tangents. (Now that I&#8217;ve been told)  Of course my tangents all represent a small minority of original tangents &#8211; including yours &#8211; on other threads. So happy to point those out &#8211; but that&#8217;s only going to get us all annoyed. All I&#8217;m asking if that the same &#8216;guidelines&#8217; are applied to all &#8211; irrespective if the person who posts a message is perceived rightwinger or leftwinger.</p>
<p>Personally &#8211; what&#8217;s wrong with tangents &#8211; it&#8217;s debate. Let&#8217;s keep &#8216;em!  Day after Day Obama bashing gets as dull as constant Bush bashing &#8211; so having tangents with history, religion and politics in other countries &#8211; is interesting. </p>
<p>Anyway &#8211; let me know (hopefully without a jibe) your thoughts on this and if it&#8217;s fair for all &#8211; then I won&#8217;t ignore it.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike's America</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2009/04/14/its-tea-time/#comment-193286</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike's America</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 06:52:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-193285&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;sigmundringeck&lt;/a&gt; worth repeating: &lt;i&gt;&quot;When GWB was around did you see us complain about our loan to you??? Not a squeak cause we were comfortable with the US and GWB then.

The problem is not the loan, the problem is Obama.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>@<a href="#comment-193285" rel="nofollow">sigmundringeck</a> worth repeating: <i>&#8220;When GWB was around did you see us complain about our loan to you??? Not a squeak cause we were comfortable with the US and GWB then.</p>
<p>The problem is not the loan, the problem is Obama.&#8221;</i></p>
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		<title>By: sigmundringeck</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 06:46:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry to say this, but I and many of us feel your dumbass president Obama is moving the US closer and closer towards a certain type of communism, and we are kinda worried about the money loaned you because, on this path, you are destroying your currency and your economy(and thus our investment--our loan to you).

China is moving away from communism, but america is moving towards communism under Obama, isn&#039;t it funny???

Obama is a disgrace to america and an embarrassment to the free world.
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Somebody mentioned that borrowing money from us started under GWB.

When GWB was around did you see us complain about our loan to you??? Not a squeak cause we were comfortable with the US and GWB then. But now with Obama, many of our officials literally want to slap his face or wring his neck to wake up his marxist fantasies.

The problem is not the loan, the problem is Obama.
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Yes mike is right, the central command economy in the 60s and even 70s was a disaster that is now like some bad dream that we couldn&#039;t get out of. That&#039;s why so many chinese left the mainland and settled in SEAsia, because things were so bad there.
Only in the early 80s, when we adopted modified capitalist principles based on the singapore model did china start to come up to where it is today.
We still have a long way to go, but at least no chinese is now dumb enough to want to return to those marxist/communist days, that dear leader Obama seems to be bringing america towards. It may take him a hundred steps to get there, but he has already taken the first ten steps.
Americans should be aware.
Freedom and a good economy is lost easily, gained back only with difficulty.
Don&#039;t think that it will never happen to you, because it is happening right now.
Maybe you won&#039;t become like china last time, but you certainly can become like europe at its worst socialist mode.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Sorry to say this, but I and many of us feel your dumbass president Obama is moving the US closer and closer towards a certain type of communism, and we are kinda worried about the money loaned you because, on this path, you are destroying your currency and your economy(and thus our investment&#8211;our loan to you).</p>
<p>China is moving away from communism, but america is moving towards communism under Obama, isn&#8217;t it funny???</p>
<p>Obama is a disgrace to america and an embarrassment to the free world.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;<br />
Somebody mentioned that borrowing money from us started under GWB.</p>
<p>When GWB was around did you see us complain about our loan to you??? Not a squeak cause we were comfortable with the US and GWB then. But now with Obama, many of our officials literally want to slap his face or wring his neck to wake up his marxist fantasies.</p>
<p>The problem is not the loan, the problem is Obama.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />
Yes mike is right, the central command economy in the 60s and even 70s was a disaster that is now like some bad dream that we couldn&#8217;t get out of. That&#8217;s why so many chinese left the mainland and settled in SEAsia, because things were so bad there.<br />
Only in the early 80s, when we adopted modified capitalist principles based on the singapore model did china start to come up to where it is today.<br />
We still have a long way to go, but at least no chinese is now dumb enough to want to return to those marxist/communist days, that dear leader Obama seems to be bringing america towards. It may take him a hundred steps to get there, but he has already taken the first ten steps.<br />
Americans should be aware.<br />
Freedom and a good economy is lost easily, gained back only with difficulty.<br />
Don&#8217;t think that it will never happen to you, because it is happening right now.<br />
Maybe you won&#8217;t become like china last time, but you certainly can become like europe at its worst socialist mode.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike's America</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike's America</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 05:45:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-193263&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;mooseburger&lt;/a&gt; said: &quot;Sounds like your siding up with the Chinese over the good old USA….&quot;

Nope! Siding with the Chinese over Obama. There is a difference. And please note that the Chinese learned their lessons about free enterprise. Yet Obama seems determined to repeat the mistakes that led to so much turmoil and death in China in the mid 20th Century.

&lt;img src=&quot;http://feralpatriot.com/images/2009/02/chairman_maobama.jpg&quot;/&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>@<a href="#comment-193263" rel="nofollow">mooseburger</a> said: &#8220;Sounds like your siding up with the Chinese over the good old USA….&#8221;</p>
<p>Nope! Siding with the Chinese over Obama. There is a difference. And please note that the Chinese learned their lessons about free enterprise. Yet Obama seems determined to repeat the mistakes that led to so much turmoil and death in China in the mid 20th Century.</p>
<p><img src="http://feralpatriot.com/images/2009/02/chairman_maobama.jpg"/></p>
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		<title>By: mooseburger</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2009/04/14/its-tea-time/#comment-193263</link>
		<dc:creator>mooseburger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 05:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike Said: &quot;So, when it comes to who is a bigger commie? the Chinese or Obama, it’s pretty clear Obama is.&quot;

And: &quot;ut at the risk of confusing you further I would just cite that the Chinese have been urging Obama to be less radical.&quot;

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/07/AR2008030702846.html

http://www.csmonitor.com/2007/0116/p01s01-usfp.html

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0309/19992.html

 Really Mike, the fact that opposing opinions, blogs and Tea Party&#039;s are flourishing should be an indication to you that the Constitution still has some teeth left.
 That wouldn&#039;t be allowed in China.

China is simply worried about their investment, we put the cost of the Iraq was on our credit card, the Chinese credit card, all while putting in place the Bush Tax cuts. Dick Cheney said deficits don&#039;t matter back then. The trend of China financing our debt didn&#039;t start with Obama.

 Not to even mention the economic near meltdown. The Chinese are in for a penny, and in for a pound at this point. 

China is our economic competitor, not to mention they are still a repressive, Communist country with little regard for freedom and liberty. Do you really think they have our best interest at heart? They only have a concern for their investment/debt owed, and for the main market for their goods. They have had their foot on our economic throats, and they like it like that.

Why would you give more credibility to the Chinese worrying about Obama being &quot;radical&quot; than you would to our country&#039;s President? Sounds like your siding up with the Chinese over the good old USA....



Iv&#039;e posted this response twice. Mike, You deleted both. You have a good forum with some good people here, I take it you will continue to delete my postings Mike? I said before that it&#039;s hard to reason with unreasonable people, are you afraid of the give and take from Ole Mooseburger, or are you just censoring posts from those who disagree with you. 


http://www.euroinvestor.co.uk/News/ShowNewsStory.aspx?StoryID=10287566

http://www.flex-news-food.com/pages/19342/Baby/China/Dairy/china-subsidise-dairy-farmers-amid-milk-scandal.html

http://www.businessgreen.com/business-green/news/2215159/china-subsidise-energy

http://www.mashget.com/business/2009/03/26/solar-company-shares-jump-on-chinese-energy-subsidy/

http://bx.businessweek.com/global-auto-industry/china-government-to-subsidise-public-green-vehicles/2587156112726740316-e5c

http://www.businessspectator.com.au/bs.nsf/Article/Chinas-first-big-mistake-pd20090401-QPAAW?OpenDocument

Among some of the quotes:


Last weekend the founder of the Stratfor private intelligence agency, George Friedman, told Business Spectator (KGB Interrogation, March 27) that, like Japan, China doesn’t have a market-driven financial economy. Decisions are made on social and political bases and therefore the deployment of money has been inefficient and generated non-performing loan problems.


Your against the horse your riding on Mike.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Mike Said: &#8220;So, when it comes to who is a bigger commie? the Chinese or Obama, it’s pretty clear Obama is.&#8221;</p>
<p>And: &#8220;ut at the risk of confusing you further I would just cite that the Chinese have been urging Obama to be less radical.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/07/AR2008030702846.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/07/AR2008030702846.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.csmonitor.com/2007/0116/p01s01-usfp.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.csmonitor.com/2007/0116/p01s01-usfp.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0309/19992.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0309/19992.html</a></p>
<p> Really Mike, the fact that opposing opinions, blogs and Tea Party&#8217;s are flourishing should be an indication to you that the Constitution still has some teeth left.<br />
 That wouldn&#8217;t be allowed in China.</p>
<p>China is simply worried about their investment, we put the cost of the Iraq was on our credit card, the Chinese credit card, all while putting in place the Bush Tax cuts. Dick Cheney said deficits don&#8217;t matter back then. The trend of China financing our debt didn&#8217;t start with Obama.</p>
<p> Not to even mention the economic near meltdown. The Chinese are in for a penny, and in for a pound at this point. </p>
<p>China is our economic competitor, not to mention they are still a repressive, Communist country with little regard for freedom and liberty. Do you really think they have our best interest at heart? They only have a concern for their investment/debt owed, and for the main market for their goods. They have had their foot on our economic throats, and they like it like that.</p>
<p>Why would you give more credibility to the Chinese worrying about Obama being &#8220;radical&#8221; than you would to our country&#8217;s President? Sounds like your siding up with the Chinese over the good old USA&#8230;.</p>
<p>Iv&#8217;e posted this response twice. Mike, You deleted both. You have a good forum with some good people here, I take it you will continue to delete my postings Mike? I said before that it&#8217;s hard to reason with unreasonable people, are you afraid of the give and take from Ole Mooseburger, or are you just censoring posts from those who disagree with you. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.euroinvestor.co.uk/News/ShowNewsStory.aspx?StoryID=10287566" rel="nofollow">http://www.euroinvestor.co.uk/News/ShowNewsStory.aspx?StoryID=10287566</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.flex-news-food.com/pages/19342/Baby/China/Dairy/china-subsidise-dairy-farmers-amid-milk-scandal.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.flex-news-food.com/pages/19342/Baby/China/Dairy/china-subsidise-dairy-farmers-amid-milk-scandal.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.businessgreen.com/business-green/news/2215159/china-subsidise-energy" rel="nofollow">http://www.businessgreen.com/business-green/news/2215159/china-subsidise-energy</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.mashget.com/business/2009/03/26/solar-company-shares-jump-on-chinese-energy-subsidy/" rel="nofollow">http://www.mashget.com/business/2009/03/26/solar-company-shares-jump-on-chinese-energy-subsidy/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://bx.businessweek.com/global-auto-industry/china-government-to-subsidise-public-green-vehicles/2587156112726740316-e5c" rel="nofollow">http://bx.businessweek.com/global-auto-industry/china-government-to-subsidise-public-green-vehicles/2587156112726740316-e5c</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.businessspectator.com.au/bs.nsf/Article/Chinas-first-big-mistake-pd20090401-QPAAW?OpenDocument" rel="nofollow">http://www.businessspectator.com.au/bs.nsf/Article/Chinas-first-big-mistake-pd20090401-QPAAW?OpenDocument</a></p>
<p>Among some of the quotes:</p>
<p>Last weekend the founder of the Stratfor private intelligence agency, George Friedman, told Business Spectator (KGB Interrogation, March 27) that, like Japan, China doesn’t have a market-driven financial economy. Decisions are made on social and political bases and therefore the deployment of money has been inefficient and generated non-performing loan problems.</p>
<p>Your against the horse your riding on Mike.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike's America</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2009/04/14/its-tea-time/#comment-193260</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike's America</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 04:44:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-193256&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;sigmundringeck&lt;/a&gt;: Did you know Gaffuk is in Australia? Not all that far from where you are. You two should get together sometime. If you do, make sure to get a video tape because I&#039;d love to see the smackdown beating you give him....

(oh, and I&#039;m sure I meant that smackdown in the verbal sense.... I don&#039;t want to get tagged by the Obama Administration as a violent radical!)

:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>@<a href="#comment-193256" rel="nofollow">sigmundringeck</a>: Did you know Gaffuk is in Australia? Not all that far from where you are. You two should get together sometime. If you do, make sure to get a video tape because I&#8217;d love to see the smackdown beating you give him&#8230;.</p>
<p>(oh, and I&#8217;m sure I meant that smackdown in the verbal sense&#8230;. I don&#8217;t want to get tagged by the Obama Administration as a violent radical!)</p>
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