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		<title>By: GaffaUK</title>
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		<dc:creator>GaffaUK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 13:54:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Comrade Sig

Here&#039;s a map of Japanese territory in the month that Japan surrendered to the Americans. Huge swathes of China still under it&#039;s control. No D-Day landings needed.

http://historicalresources.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/areas-under-allied-and-japanese-control-august-1945.jpg

How is it that a country like Japan with a population approx seven times smaller than China is able to successfully invade it for many years? You should be thanking the US for defeating Japan not claiming ignorance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>@Comrade Sig</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a map of Japanese territory in the month that Japan surrendered to the Americans. Huge swathes of China still under it&#8217;s control. No D-Day landings needed.</p>
<p><a href="http://historicalresources.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/areas-under-allied-and-japanese-control-august-1945.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://historicalresources.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/areas-under-allied-and-japanese-control-august-1945.jpg</a></p>
<p>How is it that a country like Japan with a population approx seven times smaller than China is able to successfully invade it for many years? You should be thanking the US for defeating Japan not claiming ignorance.</p>
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		<title>By: GaffaUK</title>
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		<dc:creator>GaffaUK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 10:06:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Comrade Sig

You don&#039;t need landings to save China&#039;s bacon. The US action and the lives of americans in defeating Japan - meant that the Japanes surrendered to all allies and left the territitories it still had including the large swathes of China - that the Chinese were unable to win back on there own. 

&lt;blockquote&gt;If the US saved china, why did china fight 2 wars with the US after that?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Because it was overun with ungrateful commies...

&lt;blockquote&gt;Maybe next you will claim the US saved Russia from Germany?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Although Russia got help from the allies - it managed to push out the Germans mainly by itself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>@Comrade Sig</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t need landings to save China&#8217;s bacon. The US action and the lives of americans in defeating Japan &#8211; meant that the Japanes surrendered to all allies and left the territitories it still had including the large swathes of China &#8211; that the Chinese were unable to win back on there own. </p>
<blockquote><p>If the US saved china, why did china fight 2 wars with the US after that?</p></blockquote>
<p>Because it was overun with ungrateful commies&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>Maybe next you will claim the US saved Russia from Germany?</p></blockquote>
<p>Although Russia got help from the allies &#8211; it managed to push out the Germans mainly by itself.</p>
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		<title>By: sigmundringeck</title>
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		<dc:creator>sigmundringeck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 09:48:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Boy, your knowledge of history is really bad.
What a fantastical claim. Sure the US defeated the japanese(in SEAsia), but there was no D-day, no Normandy landings by US troops to free mainland china from japan, yes???

If the US saved china, why did china fight 2 wars with the US after that?

Maybe your history is like how you claimed your idol, Lawrence of Arabia, was Britain&#039;s greatest Counter-terrorism expert????

Perhaps u have been riding too long on Mr Lawrence&#039;s bike? Bending over in front of him???

Maybe next you will claim the US saved Russia from Germany?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Boy, your knowledge of history is really bad.<br />
What a fantastical claim. Sure the US defeated the japanese(in SEAsia), but there was no D-day, no Normandy landings by US troops to free mainland china from japan, yes???</p>
<p>If the US saved china, why did china fight 2 wars with the US after that?</p>
<p>Maybe your history is like how you claimed your idol, Lawrence of Arabia, was Britain&#8217;s greatest Counter-terrorism expert????</p>
<p>Perhaps u have been riding too long on Mr Lawrence&#8217;s bike? Bending over in front of him???</p>
<p>Maybe next you will claim the US saved Russia from Germany?</p>
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		<title>By: GaffaUK</title>
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		<dc:creator>GaffaUK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 09:02:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@sigmundringeck

&lt;blockquote&gt;Please remember, us friendly and noodle-eating chinese are the only culture to have fought two large wars against your US military in korea and vietnam and did not get beaten and regime-changed by you yankees. I guess this must be because democrats were in charge those times?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Lucky for China that US saved it&#039;s (and Britain&#039;s) bacon during WWII. Thanks to everyone&#039;s favourite democrat, FDR. And how did China do during the Boxer rebelllion &amp; Opium Wars? Still I guess the chinese via their Commie masters have finally learnt they are better off trying to gain world power by financial means rather than by brute strength.</description>
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<blockquote><p>Please remember, us friendly and noodle-eating chinese are the only culture to have fought two large wars against your US military in korea and vietnam and did not get beaten and regime-changed by you yankees. I guess this must be because democrats were in charge those times?</p></blockquote>
<p>Lucky for China that US saved it&#8217;s (and Britain&#8217;s) bacon during WWII. Thanks to everyone&#8217;s favourite democrat, FDR. And how did China do during the Boxer rebelllion &amp; Opium Wars? Still I guess the chinese via their Commie masters have finally learnt they are better off trying to gain world power by financial means rather than by brute strength.</p>
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		<title>By: sigmundringeck</title>
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		<dc:creator>sigmundringeck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 08:44:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry to keep on bursting your bubble.

Maybe the russians aren&#039;t interested in risking their lives to attack if the ukrainian owner is willing to pay up?? 

It&#039;s Ukraine and Russia, right? Maybe the Russians don&#039;t want to risk their soldiers for the Ukrainians? Hate to burst your bubble there. 

Don&#039;t think the Ukrainians had any naval assets there, right??
So maybe your bubble got burst again???

Are you saying that the Russians, and us chicoms, when we actually want to fight, pay more attention to PC and human rights than the yanks and euros???

Hate to burst your bubble yet again, but it is so burstable.

Think you missed the difference between Ukrainian and Russian???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Sorry to keep on bursting your bubble.</p>
<p>Maybe the russians aren&#8217;t interested in risking their lives to attack if the ukrainian owner is willing to pay up?? </p>
<p>It&#8217;s Ukraine and Russia, right? Maybe the Russians don&#8217;t want to risk their soldiers for the Ukrainians? Hate to burst your bubble there. </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t think the Ukrainians had any naval assets there, right??<br />
So maybe your bubble got burst again???</p>
<p>Are you saying that the Russians, and us chicoms, when we actually want to fight, pay more attention to PC and human rights than the yanks and euros???</p>
<p>Hate to burst your bubble yet again, but it is so burstable.</p>
<p>Think you missed the difference between Ukrainian and Russian???</p>
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		<title>By: Catherine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Catherine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 11:05:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate to bust your bubble again but they were well within range and had plenty of time to get there. Or if they didn’t then Russia is really in trouble when?
But back to the real world Ship was taken in Sept. 2008 and released in Feb. 2009
As for no Russian ships in the area well look again.
Sorry about that bubble.

Like I said we waited and waited.
Catherine

 http://www.russiatoday.com/Top_News/2008-10-21/Piracy_latest_Russian_ship_nears_Somali_coast.html
21 October, 2008
Piracy latest: Russian ship nears Somali coast
The Russian frigate ‘Fearless’ is crossing the Suez Canal near the Somalian coast to join an international naval task force fighting sea piracy. It will take part in the operation to track the Ukrainian ship ‘Faina’, captured nearly a month ago.

OOPS

http://www.itfseafarers.org/maritime_news.cfm/newsdetail/3036
Faina finally freed as IMO agrees new code on piracy
6 February 2009
The Ukrainian arms ship Faina, seized by pirates in the Gulf of Aden on 26 September, was freed on 5 February following the air drop of a ransom – believed to be US$3.2-$3.5 million – to the captors. The ship&#039;s capture raised concern about the fate of its cargo of 33 old Soviet tanks and military hardware. The Russian master of the mainly Ukrainian crew of 20 died of a suspected heart attack after the hijack.

OOPS
Just hate that.
Another bubble lost forever</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>I hate to bust your bubble again but they were well within range and had plenty of time to get there. Or if they didn’t then Russia is really in trouble when?<br />
But back to the real world Ship was taken in Sept. 2008 and released in Feb. 2009<br />
As for no Russian ships in the area well look again.<br />
Sorry about that bubble.</p>
<p>Like I said we waited and waited.<br />
Catherine</p>
<p> <a href="http://www.russiatoday.com/Top_News/2008-10-21/Piracy_latest_Russian_ship_nears_Somali_coast.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.russiatoday.com/Top_News/2008-10-21/Piracy_latest_Russian_ship_nears_Somali_coast.html</a><br />
21 October, 2008<br />
Piracy latest: Russian ship nears Somali coast<br />
The Russian frigate ‘Fearless’ is crossing the Suez Canal near the Somalian coast to join an international naval task force fighting sea piracy. It will take part in the operation to track the Ukrainian ship ‘Faina’, captured nearly a month ago.</p>
<p>OOPS</p>
<p><a href="http://www.itfseafarers.org/maritime_news.cfm/newsdetail/3036" rel="nofollow">http://www.itfseafarers.org/maritime_news.cfm/newsdetail/3036</a><br />
Faina finally freed as IMO agrees new code on piracy<br />
6 February 2009<br />
The Ukrainian arms ship Faina, seized by pirates in the Gulf of Aden on 26 September, was freed on 5 February following the air drop of a ransom – believed to be US$3.2-$3.5 million – to the captors. The ship&#8217;s capture raised concern about the fate of its cargo of 33 old Soviet tanks and military hardware. The Russian master of the mainly Ukrainian crew of 20 died of a suspected heart attack after the hijack.</p>
<p>OOPS<br />
Just hate that.<br />
Another bubble lost forever</p>
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		<title>By: sigmundringeck</title>
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		<dc:creator>sigmundringeck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 04:05:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am interested to see how the SEAsians and mainlanders react to the piracy issue. We have sent some ships there, but I understand they haven&#039;t reached yet. None of us have the type of on-the-water-forces you americans have.

Thus, we can&#039;t kill no pirates if we don&#039;t get into contact with them.

Also, chinese(us) aren&#039;t used to fighting on the water far away from home. This might make us more cautious and less bloodthirsty and less cruel and less disregarding of human life than usual.

Please remember, us friendly and noodle-eating chinese are the only culture to have fought two large wars against your US military in korea and vietnam and did not get beaten and regime-changed by you yankees. I guess this must be because democrats were in charge those times?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>I am interested to see how the SEAsians and mainlanders react to the piracy issue. We have sent some ships there, but I understand they haven&#8217;t reached yet. None of us have the type of on-the-water-forces you americans have.</p>
<p>Thus, we can&#8217;t kill no pirates if we don&#8217;t get into contact with them.</p>
<p>Also, chinese(us) aren&#8217;t used to fighting on the water far away from home. This might make us more cautious and less bloodthirsty and less cruel and less disregarding of human life than usual.</p>
<p>Please remember, us friendly and noodle-eating chinese are the only culture to have fought two large wars against your US military in korea and vietnam and did not get beaten and regime-changed by you yankees. I guess this must be because democrats were in charge those times?</p>
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		<title>By: sigmundringeck</title>
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		<dc:creator>sigmundringeck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 03:52:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yah, we of course know about the previous russian ship.

Obviously the russians paid up cause they had no assets on the water there to kill the pirates. My guess is that it will be a different story once they have something there. Russians love killing their enemies(plus families and associates), no??? Perhaps we can remember how they fight their recent wars???

Very different from how americans and euros do things these days, yah???

Sorry to bust your bubble also, but if you have nothing there to whack them, you just have to pay up, no????
That&#039;s logic, yah??? 

Let&#039;s say there were no US forces to rescue the captain, then the owner would have to pay up also right???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Yah, we of course know about the previous russian ship.</p>
<p>Obviously the russians paid up cause they had no assets on the water there to kill the pirates. My guess is that it will be a different story once they have something there. Russians love killing their enemies(plus families and associates), no??? Perhaps we can remember how they fight their recent wars???</p>
<p>Very different from how americans and euros do things these days, yah???</p>
<p>Sorry to bust your bubble also, but if you have nothing there to whack them, you just have to pay up, no????<br />
That&#8217;s logic, yah??? </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s say there were no US forces to rescue the captain, then the owner would have to pay up also right???</p>
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		<title>By: Cary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 02:48:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>haha - this reminds me of the roommate I had who drank my wine, ate my food, never paid the rent on time, never cleaned, and came home drunk and woke me up.  When I told him he had to cut the shit or move, said, &quot;I don&#039;t have to take this shit from you.&quot;

Villains playing victim.  It&#039;s just funny. We should just laugh at them, as I did my roommate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>haha &#8211; this reminds me of the roommate I had who drank my wine, ate my food, never paid the rent on time, never cleaned, and came home drunk and woke me up.  When I told him he had to cut the shit or move, said, &#8220;I don&#8217;t have to take this shit from you.&#8221;</p>
<p>Villains playing victim.  It&#8217;s just funny. We should just laugh at them, as I did my roommate.</p>
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		<title>By: Hard Right</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hard Right</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 17:10:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I should have specified in recent history. They won WWI because of US.  Since then they have lost to anyone of significance. As for their &quot;peace keeping efforts&quot; in Africa, you are asking me to believe they fought like we did in Iraq to bring peace? Uh huh. Big difference between fighting and glorified guard duty. As for Algiers, it looks to have been a draw.
I also said &lt;strong&gt;with some exceptions&lt;/strong&gt;. Desert Storm was listed.
For the most part I was correct and that link is stretching things. Here&#039;s some info explaining their &quot;military interventions&quot; that really weren&#039;t.
http://www.nytimes.com/cfr/world/slot2_20070209.html/partner/rssnyt


Really, if you want to defend them, you are free to do so. Just don&#039;t ask us to swallow the kool-aid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>I should have specified in recent history. They won WWI because of US.  Since then they have lost to anyone of significance. As for their &#8220;peace keeping efforts&#8221; in Africa, you are asking me to believe they fought like we did in Iraq to bring peace? Uh huh. Big difference between fighting and glorified guard duty. As for Algiers, it looks to have been a draw.<br />
I also said <strong>with some exceptions</strong>. Desert Storm was listed.<br />
For the most part I was correct and that link is stretching things. Here&#8217;s some info explaining their &#8220;military interventions&#8221; that really weren&#8217;t.<br />
<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/cfr/world/slot2_20070209.html/partner/rssnyt" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/cfr/world/slot2_20070209.html/partner/rssnyt</a></p>
<p>Really, if you want to defend them, you are free to do so. Just don&#8217;t ask us to swallow the kool-aid.</p>
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