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	<title>Comments on: TRANSPARENCY ABANDONED: Obama and Dems Break Promise to Put Stimulus Online</title>
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		<title>By: Aye Chihuahua</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2009/02/12/transparency-abandoned-obama-and-dems-break-promise-to-put-stimulus-online/comment-page-1/#comment-162559</link>
		<dc:creator>Aye Chihuahua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 22:50:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-162080&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;openid.aol.com/runnswim&lt;/a&gt;: 

The number of press conferences a variety of past presidents does not hold even a sliver of relevance to the topic at hand.

What your effort provides is yet another opportunity for everyone to see you 
R-E-A-C-H to make some obscure point in your tireless, never ending, and tiresome &quot;Boosh, Boosh, Boosh&quot; bashing.

The problem is that you are, once again,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2006/10/20/publiceye/entry2111365.shtml&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; &lt;strong&gt;inaccurate in your criticism,&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt; whatever the point was.  

&lt;center&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://s100.photobucket.com/albums/m20/hutch123/?action=view&amp;current=bushpress.jpg&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m20/hutch123/bushpress.jpg&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; alt=&quot;Photobucket&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/center&gt;

We all know that we can count on you to bash the former president at every turn.  If you want to be nit picky in your efforts, then I will be nit picky in making sure you toe the line on the facts.

Now, let&#039;s get back to the topic at hand.

How do you feel about the Dim efforts to ramrod this bill through the House when it is not humanly possible that any one of these critters could have read it.

The bill was released to K Street lobbyists before it was even given to members of Congress or their staff members.

The bill was not posted on the Internet until after 11pm last night.

&lt;strong&gt;It&#039;s over 1,000 pages.&lt;/strong&gt;

There&#039;s no possible way that ANYONE could have read it to even know what is in it, yet they lined up like sheep to go out the House floor and vote.

In addition Larry, the House voted for this legislation to be available for public review for 48 hours prior to a vote.

By my count, it was on the Internet for less than 15 hours before the vote happened.

I guess that was just more lip service, of course you&#039;re very familiar with that.

Every single member of Congress who voted &quot;YES&quot; on this should be run out of town on a rail.  There is no POSSIBLE way that they could have read it.

Absolutely outrageous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>@<a href="#comment-162080" rel="nofollow">openid.aol.com/runnswim</a>: </p>
<p>The number of press conferences a variety of past presidents does not hold even a sliver of relevance to the topic at hand.</p>
<p>What your effort provides is yet another opportunity for everyone to see you<br />
R-E-A-C-H to make some obscure point in your tireless, never ending, and tiresome &#8220;Boosh, Boosh, Boosh&#8221; bashing.</p>
<p>The problem is that you are, once again,<a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2006/10/20/publiceye/entry2111365.shtml" rel="nofollow"> <strong>inaccurate in your criticism,</strong></a> whatever the point was.  </p>
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<p>We all know that we can count on you to bash the former president at every turn.  If you want to be nit picky in your efforts, then I will be nit picky in making sure you toe the line on the facts.</p>
<p>Now, let&#8217;s get back to the topic at hand.</p>
<p>How do you feel about the Dim efforts to ramrod this bill through the House when it is not humanly possible that any one of these critters could have read it.</p>
<p>The bill was released to K Street lobbyists before it was even given to members of Congress or their staff members.</p>
<p>The bill was not posted on the Internet until after 11pm last night.</p>
<p><strong>It&#8217;s over 1,000 pages.</strong></p>
<p>There&#8217;s no possible way that ANYONE could have read it to even know what is in it, yet they lined up like sheep to go out the House floor and vote.</p>
<p>In addition Larry, the House voted for this legislation to be available for public review for 48 hours prior to a vote.</p>
<p>By my count, it was on the Internet for less than 15 hours before the vote happened.</p>
<p>I guess that was just more lip service, of course you&#8217;re very familiar with that.</p>
<p>Every single member of Congress who voted &#8220;YES&#8221; on this should be run out of town on a rail.  There is no POSSIBLE way that they could have read it.</p>
<p>Absolutely outrageous.</p>
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		<title>By: JustADude</title>
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		<dc:creator>JustADude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 13:11:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok 

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.redstate.com/jeff_emanuel/2009/02/12/democrats-break-unanimously-approved-48-hour-review-rule-allow-one-night-to-read-1434-page-stimulus-before-vote/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;RedState has a post up&lt;/a&gt; about breaking the 48 hour rule the Dems agreed to.


&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rules.house.gov/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;
The House Rules Committee&lt;/a&gt; has the conference report up in a four part pdf file set and it is still not in final legislative form since you have areas crossed out with pen to show deletions and such with substitution notes in handwriting in the margins.

Boston Globe reports Kennedy is headed home to FL for rest.

This whole thing is trying to be rammed through without a decent look.

Obama&#039;s promise was 5 days on the White House website for NON EMERGENCY bills prior to signing and they consider this and emergency bill.

There seem to be two new websites set up to track the status of the spending AFTER the bill is passed

Recovery.gov
EconomicRecovery.gov

According to the ruling at the rules committee link above they are only scheduling 90 minutes of debate on the passage in the House.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Ok </p>
<p><a href="http://www.redstate.com/jeff_emanuel/2009/02/12/democrats-break-unanimously-approved-48-hour-review-rule-allow-one-night-to-read-1434-page-stimulus-before-vote/" rel="nofollow">RedState has a post up</a> about breaking the 48 hour rule the Dems agreed to.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.rules.house.gov/" rel="nofollow"><br />
The House Rules Committee</a> has the conference report up in a four part pdf file set and it is still not in final legislative form since you have areas crossed out with pen to show deletions and such with substitution notes in handwriting in the margins.</p>
<p>Boston Globe reports Kennedy is headed home to FL for rest.</p>
<p>This whole thing is trying to be rammed through without a decent look.</p>
<p>Obama&#8217;s promise was 5 days on the White House website for NON EMERGENCY bills prior to signing and they consider this and emergency bill.</p>
<p>There seem to be two new websites set up to track the status of the spending AFTER the bill is passed</p>
<p>Recovery.gov<br />
EconomicRecovery.gov</p>
<p>According to the ruling at the rules committee link above they are only scheduling 90 minutes of debate on the passage in the House.</p>
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		<title>By: Missy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Missy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 12:39:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stuck in spam.  P&amp;T

Just found this, dem Congress critters complaining:

Congressional Offices Don&#039;t Have the Stimulus Bill, Lobbyists Do
February 12, 2009 04:14 PM ET &#124; Paul Bedard &#124; Permanent Link &#124; Print 
By Paul Bedard, Washington Whispers

We&#039;re receiving E-mails from Capitol Hill staffers expressing frustration that they can&#039;t get a copy of the stimulus bill agreed to last night at a price of $789 billion. What&#039;s more, staffers are complaining about who does have a copy: K Street lobbyists. E-mails one key Democratic staffer: &quot;K Street has the bill, or chunks of it, already, and the congressional offices don&#039;t. So, the Hill is getting calls from the press (because it&#039;s leaking out) asking us to confirm or talk about what we know—but we can&#039;t do that because we haven&#039;t seen the bill. Anyway, peeps up here are sort of a combo of confused and like, &#039;Is this really happening?&#039;&quot; Reporters pressing for details, meanwhile, are getting different numbers from different offices, especially when seeking the details of specific programs.

Worse, there seem to be several different versions of what was agreed upon, with some officials circulating older versions of the package that seems to still be developing. Leadership aides said that it will work out later today and promised that lawmakers will get time to review the bill before Friday&#039;s vote.


http://www.usnews.com/blogs/washington-whispers/2009/2/12/congressional-offices-dont-have-the-stimulus-bill-lobbyists-do.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Stuck in spam.  P&amp;T</p>
<p>Just found this, dem Congress critters complaining:</p>
<p>Congressional Offices Don&#8217;t Have the Stimulus Bill, Lobbyists Do<br />
February 12, 2009 04:14 PM ET | Paul Bedard | Permanent Link | Print<br />
By Paul Bedard, Washington Whispers</p>
<p>We&#8217;re receiving E-mails from Capitol Hill staffers expressing frustration that they can&#8217;t get a copy of the stimulus bill agreed to last night at a price of $789 billion. What&#8217;s more, staffers are complaining about who does have a copy: K Street lobbyists. E-mails one key Democratic staffer: &#8220;K Street has the bill, or chunks of it, already, and the congressional offices don&#8217;t. So, the Hill is getting calls from the press (because it&#8217;s leaking out) asking us to confirm or talk about what we know—but we can&#8217;t do that because we haven&#8217;t seen the bill. Anyway, peeps up here are sort of a combo of confused and like, &#8216;Is this really happening?&#8217;&#8221; Reporters pressing for details, meanwhile, are getting different numbers from different offices, especially when seeking the details of specific programs.</p>
<p>Worse, there seem to be several different versions of what was agreed upon, with some officials circulating older versions of the package that seems to still be developing. Leadership aides said that it will work out later today and promised that lawmakers will get time to review the bill before Friday&#8217;s vote.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.usnews.com/blogs/washington-whispers/2009/2/12/congressional-offices-dont-have-the-stimulus-bill-lobbyists-do.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.usnews.com/blogs/washington-whispers/2009/2/12/congressional-offices-dont-have-the-stimulus-bill-lobbyists-do.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Missy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Missy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 12:38:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-162229&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Dog_Knows&lt;/a&gt;: 

That&#039;s just the House version before conference, not the final bill.

Pelosi didn&#039;t post the final language until 11:32 p.m last night. 

http://www.speaker.gov/blog/?p=1694

Ready for all to read and vote on this afternoon, ignoring the 48 hour amendment passed earlier this week that would have allowed all to study it for 48 hours before voting.

See:
http://www.readthestimulous.org/






Final Language Posted
Posted at 11:00 pm on Thursday, February 12, 2009
The final language has been posted; you can find links to the various docs at the Speaker&#039;s website. 

The total size of the four major files is over 100MB, and consists of 1419 pages. Three of the four files are huge &quot;scanned&quot; PDFs, meaning they were created by printing the original document and then scanning it in again --- and therefore contain no real &quot;text&quot; that can be easily searched. This will make our parsing process difficult and more time consuming, so we most likely won&#039;t have our versions ready until midday tomorrow. But we&#039;ll see...

http://www.readthestimulous.org/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>@<a href="#comment-162229" rel="nofollow">Dog_Knows</a>: </p>
<p>That&#8217;s just the House version before conference, not the final bill.</p>
<p>Pelosi didn&#8217;t post the final language until 11:32 p.m last night. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.speaker.gov/blog/?p=1694" rel="nofollow">http://www.speaker.gov/blog/?p=1694</a></p>
<p>Ready for all to read and vote on this afternoon, ignoring the 48 hour amendment passed earlier this week that would have allowed all to study it for 48 hours before voting.</p>
<p>See:<br />
<a href="http://www.readthestimulous.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.readthestimulous.org/</a></p>
<p>Final Language Posted<br />
Posted at 11:00 pm on Thursday, February 12, 2009<br />
The final language has been posted; you can find links to the various docs at the Speaker&#8217;s website. </p>
<p>The total size of the four major files is over 100MB, and consists of 1419 pages. Three of the four files are huge &#8220;scanned&#8221; PDFs, meaning they were created by printing the original document and then scanning it in again &#8212; and therefore contain no real &#8220;text&#8221; that can be easily searched. This will make our parsing process difficult and more time consuming, so we most likely won&#8217;t have our versions ready until midday tomorrow. But we&#8217;ll see&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.readthestimulous.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.readthestimulous.org/</a></p>
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		<title>By: b1jetmech</title>
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		<dc:creator>b1jetmech</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 07:30:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is only the beginning...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>This is only the beginning&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dog_Knows</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dog_Knows</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 07:23:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Hey ...

It&#039;s Howdy Doo Dee Time...

My first venture into the bowels of Flopping Aces.


This HR1 bill has been open to public scrutiny since being introduced 1/26/2009.


Better get your reading glasses on, Twenty sharpened #2 pencils, and a note-pad handy and report back in 72 hours for a pop quiz:

1/26/2009--Introduced.

American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 - &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h1/text&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;See Full Bill Text&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;

And here&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://embedded-in-the-noise.blogspot.com/2007/08/15.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;what I&#039;ve thought about all these Kabuki dancers on the Potomac since 1966&lt;/a&gt;.

Cherrios --</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Hey Hey &#8230;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s Howdy Doo Dee Time&#8230;</p>
<p>My first venture into the bowels of Flopping Aces.</p>
<p>This HR1 bill has been open to public scrutiny since being introduced 1/26/2009.</p>
<p>Better get your reading glasses on, Twenty sharpened #2 pencils, and a note-pad handy and report back in 72 hours for a pop quiz:</p>
<p>1/26/2009&#8211;Introduced.</p>
<p>American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 &#8211; <b><a href="http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h1/text" rel="nofollow">See Full Bill Text</a></b></p>
<p>And here&#8217;s <a href="http://embedded-in-the-noise.blogspot.com/2007/08/15.html" rel="nofollow">what I&#8217;ve thought about all these Kabuki dancers on the Potomac since 1966</a>.</p>
<p>Cherrios &#8211;</p>
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		<title>By: MataHarley</title>
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		<dc:creator>MataHarley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 05:52:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOVE the photo, Aye!  LOL

Larry, what does all the &quot;press conferences&quot; have to do with the promise to post the bills online?  In fact, Obama... if I remember rightly (without researching the links at the moment)... promised to post prospective bills on a website for the public to ready and express opinions for a couple of weeks before he signed them.

But if you want to play the &quot;press conference&quot; game, I believe Kennedy answered something like 37 questions in the space of 40 minutes  in his first press conference hours.  Obama... Mr. I-love-the-sound-of-my-own-voice &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=63e7c19b-4b81-4c3b-8271-2676dd826749&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;answered 13 in 60 minutes. &lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; And &quot;answered&quot; is being generous to the run around of non-answering rhetoric in which Obama excels.

&lt;blockquote&gt;No President in my lifetime stepped into office with the immediate challenges on his plate as Obama.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;d say the qualification of your &quot;lifetime&quot; is the defining statement.  Obama knows what he is stepping into, unlike George W. Bush who had 911 lurking around the corner.  Obama knows who his friends and enemies are in the Middle East... and there are more of the former than the latter, now... thanks to George W. Bush.  

Bush also inherited a recession.  Compound that with the immediate recessive hit after 911.  But he didn&#039;t know all the puzzle pieces that were going to affect that recession years downline.  

And those he did know about (Fannie/Freddie) he tried to correct several times in 2004-2005... but no dice against Barney Frank &amp; company.

Yeah... I really feel sorry for Obama, Larry.  All those &quot;hidden&quot; speed bumps that he has compared to others.  snort... chortle... LOL

Give me a break, Larry.  You&#039;re blowing BS here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>LOVE the photo, Aye!  LOL</p>
<p>Larry, what does all the &#8220;press conferences&#8221; have to do with the promise to post the bills online?  In fact, Obama&#8230; if I remember rightly (without researching the links at the moment)&#8230; promised to post prospective bills on a website for the public to ready and express opinions for a couple of weeks before he signed them.</p>
<p>But if you want to play the &#8220;press conference&#8221; game, I believe Kennedy answered something like 37 questions in the space of 40 minutes  in his first press conference hours.  Obama&#8230; Mr. I-love-the-sound-of-my-own-voice <a href="http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=63e7c19b-4b81-4c3b-8271-2676dd826749" rel="nofollow"><b>answered 13 in 60 minutes. </b></a> And &#8220;answered&#8221; is being generous to the run around of non-answering rhetoric in which Obama excels.</p>
<blockquote><p>No President in my lifetime stepped into office with the immediate challenges on his plate as Obama.</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;d say the qualification of your &#8220;lifetime&#8221; is the defining statement.  Obama knows what he is stepping into, unlike George W. Bush who had 911 lurking around the corner.  Obama knows who his friends and enemies are in the Middle East&#8230; and there are more of the former than the latter, now&#8230; thanks to George W. Bush.  </p>
<p>Bush also inherited a recession.  Compound that with the immediate recessive hit after 911.  But he didn&#8217;t know all the puzzle pieces that were going to affect that recession years downline.  </p>
<p>And those he did know about (Fannie/Freddie) he tried to correct several times in 2004-2005&#8230; but no dice against Barney Frank &#038; company.</p>
<p>Yeah&#8230; I really feel sorry for Obama, Larry.  All those &#8220;hidden&#8221; speed bumps that he has compared to others.  snort&#8230; chortle&#8230; LOL</p>
<p>Give me a break, Larry.  You&#8217;re blowing BS here.</p>
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		<title>By: Aye Chihuahua</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aye Chihuahua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 01:33:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh look.

Ronald is here.

Isn&#039;t he cute?

You know what makes Ronald so very, very special?

He&#039;s the latest arrival from the sock drawer of none other than
 Jan/sanjay/simply.done/timebug.

Let me ask you a question Jan (assuming, of course, that Jan is your leader).

Did your mommy give birth to all of you at once like the crazy chick out in CA or have you self-cloned?

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Oh look.</p>
<p>Ronald is here.</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t he cute?</p>
<p>You know what makes Ronald so very, very special?</p>
<p>He&#8217;s the latest arrival from the sock drawer of none other than<br />
 Jan/sanjay/simply.done/timebug.</p>
<p>Let me ask you a question Jan (assuming, of course, that Jan is your leader).</p>
<p>Did your mommy give birth to all of you at once like the crazy chick out in CA or have you self-cloned?</p>
<p><center><a href="http://s100.photobucket.com/albums/m20/hutch123/?action=view&#038;current=Sock-Puppet_medium.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><img src="http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m20/hutch123/Sock-Puppet_medium.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"/></a></center></p>
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		<title>By: openid.aol.com/runnswim</title>
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		<dc:creator>openid.aol.com/runnswim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 01:31:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Or, if Bush had hand picked the reporters for his first press conference?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Number of press conferences, in the first 3 years of a Presidency:

George HW Bush &gt; 40
Wm J Clinton &gt; 40
J Carter &gt; 40
Gerald Ford &gt; 40
Ronald Reagan &gt; 20
Richard Nixon &gt; 20
George W Bush = 9

They selected the reporters (including one from Fox News); they didn&#039;t select the questions.  Obama had been in office 3 weeks.  No President in my lifetime stepped into office with the immediate challenges on his plate as Obama. We&#039;ll just have to see how his press conferences go over the next three years, and then we can make comparisons.

- Larry Weisenthal/Huntington Beach, CA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><blockquote><p>Or, if Bush had hand picked the reporters for his first press conference?</p></blockquote>
<p>Number of press conferences, in the first 3 years of a Presidency:</p>
<p>George HW Bush &gt; 40<br />
Wm J Clinton &gt; 40<br />
J Carter &gt; 40<br />
Gerald Ford &gt; 40<br />
Ronald Reagan &gt; 20<br />
Richard Nixon &gt; 20<br />
George W Bush = 9</p>
<p>They selected the reporters (including one from Fox News); they didn&#8217;t select the questions.  Obama had been in office 3 weeks.  No President in my lifetime stepped into office with the immediate challenges on his plate as Obama. We&#8217;ll just have to see how his press conferences go over the next three years, and then we can make comparisons.</p>
<p>- Larry Weisenthal/Huntington Beach, CA</p>
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		<title>By: Ronald</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ronald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 01:20:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...and you believe Human Events???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>&#8230;and you believe Human Events???</p>
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