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		<title>By: Flopping Aces » Blog Archive &#187; The Long Goodbye&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2009/01/16/darth-obama/#comment-153243</link>
		<dc:creator>Flopping Aces » Blog Archive &#187; The Long Goodbye&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 08:54:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Obama will be the beneficiary of tools President Bush has implemented in place in dealing with &#8220;the long war&#8221; against [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Mike's America</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2009/01/16/darth-obama/#comment-151850</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike's America</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 15:29:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-151470&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Aye Chihuahua&lt;/a&gt;: 

&lt;blockquote&gt;Seems that renditioning was not really an evil Bush-Cheney-Rove creation after all. Of course, those of us who have been paying attention already knew that.

This gives GOP senators on the Intelligence Committee a gleeful opportunity to go after the lame and dangerous Panetta nomination while setting the record straight on reditioning.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Our GOP Senators might actually have to show up at the hearings and ask the question. Thus far they&#039;be been mostly AWOL at these hearings even though there is a gold mine of information embarrasing to Obama&#039;s nominees.

They barely laid a glove on Hillary Clinton and the big news to come out of the Eric Holder nomination for Attorney General is that he &quot;learned&quot; from his mistakes in the Marc Rich pardon.

You may recall that 4 years ago Dems held up the confirmation of Sec. of State Rice until after Inauguration Day just to deny her the honor of sitting on the Inaugural platform as Sec. State. They insisted they had important questions regarding Bush policies that needed to be asked.

Now, our side seems hell bent on projecting their own version of the &quot;new tone&quot; where once again we simply don&#039;t fire back at the same people who have and will abuse us in every way possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>@<a href="#comment-151470" rel="nofollow">Aye Chihuahua</a>: </p>
<blockquote><p>Seems that renditioning was not really an evil Bush-Cheney-Rove creation after all. Of course, those of us who have been paying attention already knew that.</p>
<p>This gives GOP senators on the Intelligence Committee a gleeful opportunity to go after the lame and dangerous Panetta nomination while setting the record straight on reditioning.
</p></blockquote>
<p>Our GOP Senators might actually have to show up at the hearings and ask the question. Thus far they&#8217;be been mostly AWOL at these hearings even though there is a gold mine of information embarrasing to Obama&#8217;s nominees.</p>
<p>They barely laid a glove on Hillary Clinton and the big news to come out of the Eric Holder nomination for Attorney General is that he &#8220;learned&#8221; from his mistakes in the Marc Rich pardon.</p>
<p>You may recall that 4 years ago Dems held up the confirmation of Sec. of State Rice until after Inauguration Day just to deny her the honor of sitting on the Inaugural platform as Sec. State. They insisted they had important questions regarding Bush policies that needed to be asked.</p>
<p>Now, our side seems hell bent on projecting their own version of the &#8220;new tone&#8221; where once again we simply don&#8217;t fire back at the same people who have and will abuse us in every way possible.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Malensek</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2009/01/16/darth-obama/#comment-151831</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Malensek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 14:24:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love this thread-LOVE IT!</description>
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		<title>By: Aye Chihuahua</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2009/01/16/darth-obama/#comment-151470</link>
		<dc:creator>Aye Chihuahua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 00:35:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;But Obama’s team has some strong critics of the old order, including his choice for director of the CIA, Leon Panetta, who has spoken out strongly against coercive interrogation methods.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Heh.

Somebody wasn&#039;t paying attention to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/jan/15/panetta-faces-rendition-queries/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;what happened on Panetta&#039;s watch&lt;/a&gt;:

&lt;blockquote&gt;President-elect Barack Obama’s choice for CIA director, Leon Panetta, served as White House chief of staff during the time the Clinton administration accelerated a practice of kidnapping terrorist suspects and sending them to countries with records of torturing prisoners, human rights organizations and former U.S. officials say.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Seems that renditioning was not really an evil Bush-Cheney-Rove creation after all.  Of course, those of us who have been paying attention already knew that.

This gives GOP senators on the Intelligence Committee a gleeful opportunity to go after the lame and dangerous Panetta nomination while setting the record straight on reditioning. It’s ironic. It’s silly. How ironic and silly? Well …

   &lt;blockquote&gt;What is ironic here, you have the incoming administration basically reaching outside the circle of individuals with direct intelligence experience ostensibly to avoid any taint with any policy the hard left dislikes, which is interrogations and renditions,” said David Rivkin, who was a White House and Justice Department national security lawyer for the Reagan and first Bush administrations.

    “Here you have a person who was involved in rendition, at least at the very senior level, in Panetta. The whole thing is silly,” Mr. Rivkin said.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;strike&gt;Hope.&lt;/strike&gt;

&lt;strike&gt;Change.&lt;/strike&gt;

Everything stays the same but the leftists don&#039;t realize it until after the Immaculate Inauguration of TelePromTer Jesus.

Popcorn?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><blockquote><p>But Obama’s team has some strong critics of the old order, including his choice for director of the CIA, Leon Panetta, who has spoken out strongly against coercive interrogation methods.</p></blockquote>
<p>Heh.</p>
<p>Somebody wasn&#8217;t paying attention to <a href="http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/jan/15/panetta-faces-rendition-queries/" rel="nofollow">what happened on Panetta&#8217;s watch</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>President-elect Barack Obama’s choice for CIA director, Leon Panetta, served as White House chief of staff during the time the Clinton administration accelerated a practice of kidnapping terrorist suspects and sending them to countries with records of torturing prisoners, human rights organizations and former U.S. officials say.</p></blockquote>
<p>Seems that renditioning was not really an evil Bush-Cheney-Rove creation after all.  Of course, those of us who have been paying attention already knew that.</p>
<p>This gives GOP senators on the Intelligence Committee a gleeful opportunity to go after the lame and dangerous Panetta nomination while setting the record straight on reditioning. It’s ironic. It’s silly. How ironic and silly? Well …</p>
<blockquote><p>What is ironic here, you have the incoming administration basically reaching outside the circle of individuals with direct intelligence experience ostensibly to avoid any taint with any policy the hard left dislikes, which is interrogations and renditions,” said David Rivkin, who was a White House and Justice Department national security lawyer for the Reagan and first Bush administrations.</p>
<p>    “Here you have a person who was involved in rendition, at least at the very senior level, in Panetta. The whole thing is silly,” Mr. Rivkin said.</p></blockquote>
<p><strike>Hope.</strike></p>
<p><strike>Change.</strike></p>
<p>Everything stays the same but the leftists don&#8217;t realize it until after the Immaculate Inauguration of TelePromTer Jesus.</p>
<p>Popcorn?</p>
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		<title>By: suek</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2009/01/16/darth-obama/#comment-151459</link>
		<dc:creator>suek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 00:12:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;But Obama’s team has some strong critics of the old order, including his choice for director of the CIA, Leon Panetta, who has spoken out strongly against coercive interrogation methods.&gt;&gt;

There&#039;s no question in my mind that they will do exactly the same things or worse, but they will be done in secret.  No one will find out for another 100 years.   ... If we&#039;re still an intact nation then...

They are already showing clear indications that they consider themselves above the law...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>&gt;&gt;But Obama’s team has some strong critics of the old order, including his choice for director of the CIA, Leon Panetta, who has spoken out strongly against coercive interrogation methods.&gt;&gt;</p>
<p>There&#8217;s no question in my mind that they will do exactly the same things or worse, but they will be done in secret.  No one will find out for another 100 years.   &#8230; If we&#8217;re still an intact nation then&#8230;</p>
<p>They are already showing clear indications that they consider themselves above the law&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: atackster</title>
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		<dc:creator>atackster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 21:38:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, I can&#039;t get serious about this, I just keep thinking &quot;Blazing Saddles&quot;</description>
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