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		<title>By: Missy</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2009/01/06/dems-senate-shenanigans-continue/comment-page-1/#comment-146103</link>
		<dc:creator>Missy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 17:54:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“This will be nothing more than a forgotten bump in the road…”

Ya sure, and the Jr. Senator from Illinois better get any committee appointment he desires or all that Senator &quot;Big Talk&quot; Reid said against him can and will be used.  I think there will be more bumps ahead.

That&#039;s your leadership at work.  They managed to take a simple task and blow it proving them to be not to good at forward thinking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>“This will be nothing more than a forgotten bump in the road…”</p>
<p>Ya sure, and the Jr. Senator from Illinois better get any committee appointment he desires or all that Senator &#8220;Big Talk&#8221; Reid said against him can and will be used.  I think there will be more bumps ahead.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s your leadership at work.  They managed to take a simple task and blow it proving them to be not to good at forward thinking.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike's America</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2009/01/06/dems-senate-shenanigans-continue/comment-page-1/#comment-146089</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike's America</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 17:21:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;This will be nothing more than a forgotten bump in the road…&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Correction: This was a supreme example of the contempt for state&#039;s rights on the part of the Senate and Democrats.

What&#039;s to stop them from doing this if the candidate wasn&#039;t black or was appointed by a Republican governor?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p><i>&#8220;This will be nothing more than a forgotten bump in the road…&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Correction: This was a supreme example of the contempt for state&#8217;s rights on the part of the Senate and Democrats.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s to stop them from doing this if the candidate wasn&#8217;t black or was appointed by a Republican governor?</p>
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		<title>By: Real American Patriot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Real American Patriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 17:04:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He will be seated within a week. This will be nothing more than a forgotten bump in the road...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>He will be seated within a week. This will be nothing more than a forgotten bump in the road&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 04:55:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good grief!   Isn&#039;t there a single democrat in the White House that knows how the Senate works?    What a bunch of losers.   Blind leading blind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Good grief!   Isn&#8217;t there a single democrat in the White House that knows how the Senate works?    What a bunch of losers.   Blind leading blind.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike's America</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike's America</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 04:46:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There doesn&#039;t seem to be anything spelled out in the statute that says when White must affix his seal but I also don&#039;t see how he can refuse.

P.S. regarding the Lt. Gov. thing.... just going for accuracy here. A Lt. Gov. cannot make the appointment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>There doesn&#8217;t seem to be anything spelled out in the statute that says when White must affix his seal but I also don&#8217;t see how he can refuse.</p>
<p>P.S. regarding the Lt. Gov. thing&#8230;. just going for accuracy here. A Lt. Gov. cannot make the appointment.</p>
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		<title>By: MataHarley</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2009/01/06/dems-senate-shenanigans-continue/comment-page-1/#comment-145871</link>
		<dc:creator>MataHarley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 04:34:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stix, not entirely sure about the requirement for IL Secy of State White.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://progressillinois.com/2008/12/31/burris-petitions-il-supreme-court&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Burris hit up the IL Supremes&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; at the end of December to get a writ of mandamus to kick him in the butt, and  remove doubt of his legitimacy.

Excerpt from the brief:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Pursuant to 10 ILCS 5/25-8 and the 17th Amendment to the United States Constitution, Mr. Burris&#039; appointment as United States Senator is effective immediately and there is no need for further confirmation by any other official from the State of Illinois, including but not limited to, Secretary White.  Nevertheless, 15 ILCS 305/5 5(1) requires the Secretary of State to &quot;sign and affix the seal of the State to all commissions required by law to be issued by the governor.&quot;  Accordingly, Secretary White is required to exercise these duties with respect to Mr. Burris&#039; appointment.  His failure to do so may cast doubt in the minds of the public as to the legitimacy of Mr. Burris&#039; appointment, all to Petitioners&#039; damage and in derogation of their rights. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

This is also being talked about on that&lt;a href=&quot;http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/12/illinois_sec_of_state_refuses.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt; liberal cyber whore house, TMP.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;A spokesman for Illinois Secretary of State Jesse White (D) confirmed to Election Central that White knows he does not truly have the authority to stop the appointment of Roland Burris to the Senate, but he withheld his signature from it earlier today in order to make a statement. But the door does appear to be open to some legal ramifications.

&quot;His feeling is we studied the constitution of Illinois, we looked at the statutes, and there was nothing there that said he had to sign the paperwork,&quot; said David Druker, White&#039;s press secretary.

&quot;We don&#039;t believe he has the authority to hold up the appointment or veto it, to put it that way,&quot; Druker added. &quot;How the U.S. Senate views the action, that would be for the U.S. Senate to determine.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

In an update at the bottom, Reid says he&#039;d use it as a second set of grounds for entry refusal anyway.  Then again, ol&#039; Harry doesn&#039;t mind blowing off the courts when they aren&#039;t issuing decisions in his favor.  So I guess it&#039;s yet another legal bone of contention.  But not yet cut and dried.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Stix, not entirely sure about the requirement for IL Secy of State White.  <a href="http://progressillinois.com/2008/12/31/burris-petitions-il-supreme-court" rel="nofollow"><b>Burris hit up the IL Supremes</b></a> at the end of December to get a writ of mandamus to kick him in the butt, and  remove doubt of his legitimacy.</p>
<p>Excerpt from the brief:</p>
<blockquote><p>Pursuant to 10 ILCS 5/25-8 and the 17th Amendment to the United States Constitution, Mr. Burris&#8217; appointment as United States Senator is effective immediately and there is no need for further confirmation by any other official from the State of Illinois, including but not limited to, Secretary White.  Nevertheless, 15 ILCS 305/5 5(1) requires the Secretary of State to &#8220;sign and affix the seal of the State to all commissions required by law to be issued by the governor.&#8221;  Accordingly, Secretary White is required to exercise these duties with respect to Mr. Burris&#8217; appointment.  His failure to do so may cast doubt in the minds of the public as to the legitimacy of Mr. Burris&#8217; appointment, all to Petitioners&#8217; damage and in derogation of their rights. </p></blockquote>
<p>This is also being talked about on that<a href="http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/12/illinois_sec_of_state_refuses.php" rel="nofollow"><b> liberal cyber whore house, TMP.</b></a></p>
<blockquote><p>A spokesman for Illinois Secretary of State Jesse White (D) confirmed to Election Central that White knows he does not truly have the authority to stop the appointment of Roland Burris to the Senate, but he withheld his signature from it earlier today in order to make a statement. But the door does appear to be open to some legal ramifications.</p>
<p>&#8220;His feeling is we studied the constitution of Illinois, we looked at the statutes, and there was nothing there that said he had to sign the paperwork,&#8221; said David Druker, White&#8217;s press secretary.</p>
<p>&#8220;We don&#8217;t believe he has the authority to hold up the appointment or veto it, to put it that way,&#8221; Druker added. &#8220;How the U.S. Senate views the action, that would be for the U.S. Senate to determine.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>In an update at the bottom, Reid says he&#8217;d use it as a second set of grounds for entry refusal anyway.  Then again, ol&#8217; Harry doesn&#8217;t mind blowing off the courts when they aren&#8217;t issuing decisions in his favor.  So I guess it&#8217;s yet another legal bone of contention.  But not yet cut and dried.</p>
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		<title>By: MataHarley</title>
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		<dc:creator>MataHarley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 04:26:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now now, Mikey... if you&#039;re gonna indulge in word parsing and the meaning of &quot;is&quot;, I&#039;m gonna have to ask you to show your conservative credentials at the door!  :0)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Now now, Mikey&#8230; if you&#8217;re gonna indulge in word parsing and the meaning of &#8220;is&#8221;, I&#8217;m gonna have to ask you to show your conservative credentials at the door!  :0)</p>
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		<title>By: Mike's America</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike's America</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 04:24:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Incorrect? Moi!

Pish Tosh!

If the Lt. Governor became acting governor he would no longer be Lt. Gov.

As Lt. Gov he cannot make the appointment.

Stix: I don&#039;t know what the law requires in Illinois. I haven&#039;t heard that the Sec. State has any grounds to refuse to sign. A court may have to decide. This comedy just keeps on giving.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Incorrect? Moi!</p>
<p>Pish Tosh!</p>
<p>If the Lt. Governor became acting governor he would no longer be Lt. Gov.</p>
<p>As Lt. Gov he cannot make the appointment.</p>
<p>Stix: I don&#8217;t know what the law requires in Illinois. I haven&#8217;t heard that the Sec. State has any grounds to refuse to sign. A court may have to decide. This comedy just keeps on giving.</p>
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		<title>By: stix1972</title>
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		<dc:creator>stix1972</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 04:21:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They still need the siognature of the Secretary of State and he refuses to sign off on anything Blago does.   I do not know how they can get around that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>They still need the siognature of the Secretary of State and he refuses to sign off on anything Blago does.   I do not know how they can get around that.</p>
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		<title>By: MataHarley</title>
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		<dc:creator>MataHarley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 04:20:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike, I&#039;m not *that* bad at multitasking.  Or perhaps you hadn&#039;t known that &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2008/12/attorney-gen-lisa-madigan-supreme-court-blagojevich-unable-to-serve.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;AG Madigan was petitioning the IL Supremes to temporarily remove Blago and appt Lt. Gov Quinn as acting guv&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; so *he* could make the appointment.

Which is where I kept tying the AG to the Lt. Gov for appointment power in my mind.  And yes, the Lt. Gov is 2nd in line to the IL throne of corruption in the event of Blago loss of office.

So sorry... you are incorrect there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Mike, I&#8217;m not *that* bad at multitasking.  Or perhaps you hadn&#8217;t known that <a href="http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2008/12/attorney-gen-lisa-madigan-supreme-court-blagojevich-unable-to-serve.html" rel="nofollow"><b>AG Madigan was petitioning the IL Supremes to temporarily remove Blago and appt Lt. Gov Quinn as acting guv</b></a> so *he* could make the appointment.</p>
<p>Which is where I kept tying the AG to the Lt. Gov for appointment power in my mind.  And yes, the Lt. Gov is 2nd in line to the IL throne of corruption in the event of Blago loss of office.</p>
<p>So sorry&#8230; you are incorrect there.</p>
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