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		<title>By: Missy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Missy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 02:28:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gee thanks for the info simply done/sanjay/Jan.  

&quot;Many Middle East experts say Israel timed its move against Hamas, which began with airstrikes on Dec. 27, 24 days before Mr. Bush leaves office, with the expectation of such backing in Washington. Israeli officials could not be certain that President-elect Barack Obama, despite past statements of sympathy for Israel’s right of self-defense, would match the Bush administration’s unconditional endorsement. &quot;

Gee, wouldn&#039;t it be nice if Obama would open his mouth and make a statement one way or another about this major event.  At least the &quot;Many Middle East experts&quot; would have facts to base their opinions on.  Instead they fire up the libby&#039;s with suppose this,  suppose that--not really knowing what the heck is going on because &quot;the one&quot; is clammed up.  Kind of serious stuff to be speculating on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Gee thanks for the info simply done/sanjay/Jan.  </p>
<p>&#8220;Many Middle East experts say Israel timed its move against Hamas, which began with airstrikes on Dec. 27, 24 days before Mr. Bush leaves office, with the expectation of such backing in Washington. Israeli officials could not be certain that President-elect Barack Obama, despite past statements of sympathy for Israel’s right of self-defense, would match the Bush administration’s unconditional endorsement. &#8221;</p>
<p>Gee, wouldn&#8217;t it be nice if Obama would open his mouth and make a statement one way or another about this major event.  At least the &#8220;Many Middle East experts&#8221; would have facts to base their opinions on.  Instead they fire up the libby&#8217;s with suppose this,  suppose that&#8211;not really knowing what the heck is going on because &#8220;the one&#8221; is clammed up.  Kind of serious stuff to be speculating on.</p>
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		<title>By: MataHarley</title>
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		<dc:creator>MataHarley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 00:04:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;simply: Of course, timing really is everything, especially if you are going to start a war. To say and then even believe that that the ‘new administration’ didn’t factor into the decision to wage war amounts to not ignoring the all of the ’soft’ evidence, but casts those that do believe it to be very politically naive.&lt;/blockquote&gt;


That you can derive a comment on &quot;timing&quot;  from my statement indicates a serious flaw in your reading comprehension, simple&#039;ton.  You aren&#039;t any brighter than when you were calling yourself Jan or Sanjay, are you?   

What my statement explicitly says is that Israel will act to defend herself with, or without the blessings of any US POTUS.   If you think anything Obama could say to Israel will prevent them from exercising self-defense, you *are* the poster child for &quot;politically naive&quot;.

That said, using the NYTs theory... which you apparently need to bolster or form your own... Israel has been under Hamas rocket bombardment since before the POTUS election in Nov.  So perhaps you and your pet media pundits would like to expound on the reason for the delay, if this timing were  all about Obama becoming the new POTUS?

Or didn&#039;t that occur to you?  Obviously, for the predictably poorly researched NYTs staff, it didn&#039;t.  But sure sounds good to people like you, yes?

It just *might* have had to do with the increased rocket capability (holiday gifts from Iran)  and volume that started coming around Christmas.  naw... couldn&#039;t be it

Frankly, I wish they had started the day after the election.  They&#039;d have more time to clean out the scum.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><blockquote><p>simply: Of course, timing really is everything, especially if you are going to start a war. To say and then even believe that that the ‘new administration’ didn’t factor into the decision to wage war amounts to not ignoring the all of the ’soft’ evidence, but casts those that do believe it to be very politically naive.</p></blockquote>
<p>That you can derive a comment on &#8220;timing&#8221;  from my statement indicates a serious flaw in your reading comprehension, simple&#8217;ton.  You aren&#8217;t any brighter than when you were calling yourself Jan or Sanjay, are you?   </p>
<p>What my statement explicitly says is that Israel will act to defend herself with, or without the blessings of any US POTUS.   If you think anything Obama could say to Israel will prevent them from exercising self-defense, you *are* the poster child for &#8220;politically naive&#8221;.</p>
<p>That said, using the NYTs theory&#8230; which you apparently need to bolster or form your own&#8230; Israel has been under Hamas rocket bombardment since before the POTUS election in Nov.  So perhaps you and your pet media pundits would like to expound on the reason for the delay, if this timing were  all about Obama becoming the new POTUS?</p>
<p>Or didn&#8217;t that occur to you?  Obviously, for the predictably poorly researched NYTs staff, it didn&#8217;t.  But sure sounds good to people like you, yes?</p>
<p>It just *might* have had to do with the increased rocket capability (holiday gifts from Iran)  and volume that started coming around Christmas.  naw&#8230; couldn&#8217;t be it</p>
<p>Frankly, I wish they had started the day after the election.  They&#8217;d have more time to clean out the scum.</p>
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		<title>By: simply done</title>
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		<dc:creator>simply done</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 23:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
Hellooooo… does reality reach your neck of the woods, simple??

The Israeli’s “acted in Gaza” as a R-E-S-P-O-N-S-E to Hamas missiles over weeks and months. Perhaps you’d like to rethink your absorption of media bytes with a tad of reality mixed in now?

And the Israeli’s would respond no matter who the US President was. Nor will it be “over before the next administration comes in”…. This is a generations old battle, that will continue to have flare ups for generations to come.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;  --Mat Harley


&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/05/washington/05diplo.html?hp&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;(NYT)&lt;/a&gt;   For nine days, as European and United Nations officials have called urgently for a cease-fire in Gaza, the Bush administration has squarely blamed the rocket attacks of the Palestinian militant group Hamas for Israel’s assault, maintaining to the end its eight-year record of stalwart support for Israel.

Mr. Bush, in his weekly radio address on Saturday, said the United States did not want a “one-way cease-fire” that allowed Hamas to keep up its rocket fire, and Vice President Dick Cheney on Sunday echoed the point, declaring that only a “sustainable, durable” peace would be acceptable.

Many Middle East experts say Israel timed its move against Hamas, which began with airstrikes on Dec. 27, 24 days before Mr. Bush leaves office, with the expectation of such backing in Washington. Israeli officials could not be certain that President-elect Barack Obama, despite past statements of sympathy for Israel’s right of self-defense, would match the Bush administration’s unconditional endorsement.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Of course, timing really is everything, especially if you are going to start a war. To say and then even believe that that the &#039;new administration&#039; didn&#039;t factor it into the decision to wage war amounts to not only ignoring the all of the &#039;soft&#039; evidence, but casts those that do believe it to be very politically naive.</description>
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Hellooooo… does reality reach your neck of the woods, simple??</p>
<p>The Israeli’s “acted in Gaza” as a R-E-S-P-O-N-S-E to Hamas missiles over weeks and months. Perhaps you’d like to rethink your absorption of media bytes with a tad of reality mixed in now?</p>
<p>And the Israeli’s would respond no matter who the US President was. Nor will it be “over before the next administration comes in”…. This is a generations old battle, that will continue to have flare ups for generations to come.
</p></blockquote>
<p>  &#8211;Mat Harley</p>
<blockquote><p>
<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/05/washington/05diplo.html?hp" rel="nofollow">(NYT)</a>   For nine days, as European and United Nations officials have called urgently for a cease-fire in Gaza, the Bush administration has squarely blamed the rocket attacks of the Palestinian militant group Hamas for Israel’s assault, maintaining to the end its eight-year record of stalwart support for Israel.</p>
<p>Mr. Bush, in his weekly radio address on Saturday, said the United States did not want a “one-way cease-fire” that allowed Hamas to keep up its rocket fire, and Vice President Dick Cheney on Sunday echoed the point, declaring that only a “sustainable, durable” peace would be acceptable.</p>
<p>Many Middle East experts say Israel timed its move against Hamas, which began with airstrikes on Dec. 27, 24 days before Mr. Bush leaves office, with the expectation of such backing in Washington. Israeli officials could not be certain that President-elect Barack Obama, despite past statements of sympathy for Israel’s right of self-defense, would match the Bush administration’s unconditional endorsement.
</p></blockquote>
<p>Of course, timing really is everything, especially if you are going to start a war. To say and then even believe that that the &#8216;new administration&#8217; didn&#8217;t factor it into the decision to wage war amounts to not only ignoring the all of the &#8216;soft&#8217; evidence, but casts those that do believe it to be very politically naive.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Mophtali</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Mophtali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 09:10:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh well things might change</description>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 01:35:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, Hey!

Pro-Palestinian Protesters at Obama&#039;s Hawaii House
December 31, 2008
http://www.gulfnews.com/region/Middle_East/10271409.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Hey, Hey!</p>
<p>Pro-Palestinian Protesters at Obama&#8217;s Hawaii House<br />
December 31, 2008<br />
<a href="http://www.gulfnews.com/region/Middle_East/10271409.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.gulfnews.com/region/Middle_East/10271409.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: MataHarley</title>
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		<dc:creator>MataHarley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 05:36:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Absolutely that no matter who the western POTUS is, the rads are still on the quest for eradication of we infidels and zionists.  As I&#039;ve said before... out with the old Great Satan, and in with the new Great Satan.  Only I believe they&#039;ve slammed him lower by calling PEBO the &quot;house negro&quot;.

So.... you&#039;re subscribing to the ol &quot;flush the toilet&quot; theory, eh Blast?  Well... I&#039;ll drink to that, and raise you a couple of tequila shots on that wish for success.  And at that, I&#039;m going to stumble off line before I start looking for a chandelier to swing from.  LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Absolutely that no matter who the western POTUS is, the rads are still on the quest for eradication of we infidels and zionists.  As I&#8217;ve said before&#8230; out with the old Great Satan, and in with the new Great Satan.  Only I believe they&#8217;ve slammed him lower by calling PEBO the &#8220;house negro&#8221;.</p>
<p>So&#8230;. you&#8217;re subscribing to the ol &#8220;flush the toilet&#8221; theory, eh Blast?  Well&#8230; I&#8217;ll drink to that, and raise you a couple of tequila shots on that wish for success.  And at that, I&#8217;m going to stumble off line before I start looking for a chandelier to swing from.  LOL</p>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 05:28:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, Blast!   You are with the Iraelis?    I am impressed here.   By reading your usual posts I though for sure you would be with the Palestinians.    You have climb one degree in my estime.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Wow, Blast!   You are with the Iraelis?    I am impressed here.   By reading your usual posts I though for sure you would be with the Palestinians.    You have climb one degree in my estime.</p>
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		<title>By: blast</title>
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		<dc:creator>blast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 05:24:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mata, he could always say the lights were out on Hawaii and he missed the news?  *pours more, two glasses*

We will see how the international community responds to Obama.  I really doubt the radical elements really care who is president as they will try to kill us anyway.  I hope the new congress gets to work fast and gets the national security team approved, especially former Marine Corps General Jim Jones.  

I think the low profile is really to give Israel time to flush the toilet in Gaza without political pressure.  Hopefully the IDF will get it done fast.  I tend to think they are not looking to get bogged down for long and these strikes are to kill off the leaders and decapitate Hammas.  We can only hope and pray for that!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>mata, he could always say the lights were out on Hawaii and he missed the news?  *pours more, two glasses*</p>
<p>We will see how the international community responds to Obama.  I really doubt the radical elements really care who is president as they will try to kill us anyway.  I hope the new congress gets to work fast and gets the national security team approved, especially former Marine Corps General Jim Jones.  </p>
<p>I think the low profile is really to give Israel time to flush the toilet in Gaza without political pressure.  Hopefully the IDF will get it done fast.  I tend to think they are not looking to get bogged down for long and these strikes are to kill off the leaders and decapitate Hammas.  We can only hope and pray for that!</p>
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		<title>By: MataHarley</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/12/29/obamas-silence-of-convenience-on-gaza-risks-muslim-anger/comment-page-1/#comment-144399</link>
		<dc:creator>MataHarley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 05:15:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*takes a slurp...*... LOL   Yup.  interesting times for sure.  But on this one, it&#039;s the perception by others that&#039;s going to take it&#039;s toll.  The buyer remorse is setting in faster for the int&#039;l community (most especially the Arab/Muslim world) than it has here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>*takes a slurp&#8230;*&#8230; LOL   Yup.  interesting times for sure.  But on this one, it&#8217;s the perception by others that&#8217;s going to take it&#8217;s toll.  The buyer remorse is setting in faster for the int&#8217;l community (most especially the Arab/Muslim world) than it has here.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 05:14:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Simple, 

Get a political strategy 101 course before posting here.    Or go and watch the video that I have linked in Curt&#039;s last thread.   You are wasting your and our time with empty useless debates here.</description>
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<p>Get a political strategy 101 course before posting here.    Or go and watch the video that I have linked in Curt&#8217;s last thread.   You are wasting your and our time with empty useless debates here.</p>
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