“When there are no facts to argue in your favor, pull a quote out of the stock, one of thousands of more boring and much less notable quotes, and repeat it until your voice gives out. ”
Facts?
Check out her interview with Katie Couric.
Let Mrs. Palin speak for herself.
And as for repeating it, Mr. Palin made the palling around with terrorists (plural) charge many times.
As one Marxist wrote about Mrs. Palin:
“I don’t think anyone, however charitable, could watch the interviews and conclude that the Alaskan governor is highly qualified to take up the reins of executive power. She’s no Dick Cheney, seasoned in state craft. But I thought at least Palin’s not a waffler. Wrong. Here she was trimming on issues like choice and man’s supposed contribution to global warming. Next thing you know, she’ll be back-dating Creation to the Miocene and tipping her hat to Al Gore, a creature who in Palin’s previous incarnation, less than three weeks ago (only 3,999 years and 344 days after the Beginning, on her old calendar) she’d have been happy to hunt from the air in whatever state-owned helicopters weren’t otherwise engaged in shuttling Piper and the kids to school or home for the weekend”
Less you lump him in with the leftists you know, he is not charitable towards Caroline.
From his website:
“And all of those sharp Upper Eastsiders who were ready to crow over those idiots from Alaska who could see Russia from some places, but worked and dined with thieves, sociopaths and corporate welfare kings? Was it too close to home for them to read the handwriting on the wall while Alaska was just far enough away for them to understand? Caroline Kennedy answers questions like Sarah Palin in the early days, but she is One of Them so Fit to Run. “
“Fifth prediction: The Alaskan fixation will continue. Palin haters and admirers abound. Anonymous bloggers to the Anchorage Daily News drive those of us who are interested in an exchange of ideas on the state and its people absolutely batty. There is a way for non-Alaskans to learn about Alaska before 2012. The Alaska Public Radio Network (APRN.ORG), the best statewide public radio in the nation, is available on the web. APRN has been a farm system for NPR for years. Peter Kenyan, Elizabeth Arnold, Corey Flintoff and others did their time in Alaska. Listen to APRN, especially back programs of the eclectic AK, with a map at your side to locate communities. Then you can drive Alaskans nuts with astute advice. And, remember. Sarah Palin said a lot of stupid things on the campaign trail, but did not steal a dime of your money. Remind the next New Yorker you meet who sneers at Alaska, to say hello to Bernie.”
I do not find Ms. Kennedy any smarter or dumber than Mrs. Palin.
“I do not find Ms. Kennedy any smarter or dumber than Mrs. Palin.” (Stephanie Plume)
What has Caroline ever accomplished in her life? Nothing. Now compare with the accomplishments of Sarah Palin and maybe you will shut up. You are making a fool of yourself with your hater of Sarah and your lack of judgment is so evident that I don’t know why you insist this way. What is it with you? Jealousy? Fear! Or are you just the type of woman that likes to bitch another woman?
Stephanie, you started out with your first entry on this thread with the comment:
Sarah’s “genius” was on display with the actions her daughter took 9 months ago.
You then said:
“I do not find Ms. Kennedy any smarter or dumber than Mrs. Palin.”
Considering you base a parent’s intelligence on the behavior of their children, I find it hard to believe this 180 degree switch. I’m quite sure none of the Schlossberg children have had a child out of wedlock. Using your personal standard, Caroline Kennedy Schlossberg would have to come out the superior intellect.
So much for your consistency.
Instead, to substantiate your “plurality” error by Palin, you cite an unlinked “Marxist”, “leftist”, and who knows who with quotes from who knows where.
My suggestion… if you wish to quote someone, please provide the links, as most of us here do. And, BTW, I don’t consider a “Marxist” or “leftist” view of Palin and her qualifications anywhere close to unbiased, nor accurate.
Lastly, Palin is correct in the plural of “terrorists”… if you include Ayers’ wife Bernadette, and regular dinner companion, Rashid Khalidi. Last I looked, three constitutes plural. And that’s only the ones we *know* about.
However since many have not heard of either of these two… obviously including you… it did little good for Palin to bring them up by name in a Couric interview. And had she done so, it too would have ended up on the cutting room floor as inconsequential.
It would, however, been behooving of an honest press to investigate Obama’s very numerous and questionable – personal associations in order to more thoroughly vet a candidate for POTUS.
So if you are basing your “plurality” judgment of Palin on the media, you have just been taken to the mental cleaners.
Basically, the left (apparently that includes you these days ,stephanieplume) believes that you empower the poor and middle class by giving power to the elite. They believe that the poor and middle class deserve a fair share of the wealth, but as soon as a middle class upstart like Governor Palin even thinks of moving up the POWER ladder, she needs to be put in her place. A well heeled charity worker, however, DESERVES to be in power.
It’s very telling of what the true nature of socialism is. As long as everyone get equal scraps, no one is supposed to care that the leaders live in luxury. You’re supposed to hate those that earn more through economic superiority or hard work, but love those that take more through political superiority.
I heard of Dohrn (bad) and Khalidi (not bad).
Palin called Khalidi “radical professor” not a “terrorist.”
Dohrn and Ayers fit Wisdom’s def of leftist.
According to David Horowitz (who can rarely be trusted) Bernadine Dohrn spent a rally for assassinated Black Panthers Fred Hampton and Mark Clark (90 bullets in, one out) parading on the stage in the manner of a stripper. He set that as the beginning of his turn against radical chic
And that was with a very friendly interviewer (“Governor Palin, not yet fully put together, rushed out to tell myself and my crew to make ourselves at home.” http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/jziegler/2009/01/07/my-interview-with-sarah-palin/#more-10885)
(Bighollywood is the new website that according to Mr. Breitbart : “is to create an atmosphere of tolerance — something that does not exist in this town.”" and that “After years of silence, conservatives are coming out of the closet.”)
(Tech secret question: How do you get quotes to appear highlighted and as an inset. I like it. very dramatic.)
The remark about Bristol was wrong. I see that she (and Levi) got $300,000 from People for photos of their new child. That’s not dumb.
I can’t tell if you are being sarcastic or genuine. I hadn’t seen that report, but if it’s true, then good for them. I’m glad they were able to get a little financial stability out of the craziness that the press brought down on them. There was a time when families were off limits, but obviously that time is in the past.
On Cockburn’s comments about Governor Palin – He based his entire opinion of her on her first MSM interview, a hack-edited interview at that. He didn’t look at her record, her history, or anything else.
On Cockburn’s comments about McCain and the bailout – Yeah, I agree with him. What does that have to do with Governor Palin?
I heard of Dohrn (bad) and Khalidi (not bad).
Palin called Khalidi “radical professor” not a “terrorist.”
Dohrn and Ayers fit Wisdom’s def of leftist.
According to David Horowitz (who can rarely be trusted) Bernadine Dohrn spent a rally for assassinated Black Panthers Fred Hampton and Mark Clark (90 bullets in, one out) parading on the stage in the manner of a stripper. He set that as the beginning of his turn against radical chic
So, are you retracting your ridiculous statement in 46? — “As for the genius of Sarah Palin, she is the one who believes one equals two, as she told us that our next President pals around with “terrorists” but she could name only one. Or is this a type of dialect, like “99 cent.””
And that was with a very friendly interviewer (”Governor Palin, not yet fully put together, rushed out to tell myself and my crew to make ourselves at home.” http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/jziegler/2009/01/07/my-interview-with-sarah-palin/#more-10885)
(Bighollywood is the new website that according to Mr. Breitbart : “is to create an atmosphere of tolerance — something that does not exist in this town.”” and that “After years of silence, conservatives are coming out of the closet.”)
What are you attempting to point out? Governor Palin was very well spoken, honest, and direct in that interview.
Overall, it looks to me like you are trying to use a bunch of third rate editorials to support the attacks that you are portraying as facts about a very intelligent, well spoken, and accomplished woman along with her family. If you are so dead set on impeaching her abilities, how about providing some actual facts about what she has done so wrong? There are dozens of FA posts pointing to her numerous accomplishments, yet for all of the negative comments, no hard facts that she has ever been anything but a highly qualified executive.
Come on Stephanie, I’ve read some of your posts in other threads. I know you’re intelligent. You just need to get the blinders off when it comes to Governor Palin. If you’re going to keep up this argument, you’ve got to try harder.
It might help make your comments above more readable and understandable as I too join Missy in wondering what it is you were trying to say.
Sounded to me like another stream of conciousness rant against the Palin family. If so, we’re overquota for that kind of sleaze.
I seem to recall that Obama said his family was off limits. Apparently that doesn’t also apply to Palin’s family or you didn’t get the memo from Obama HQ.
Wisdom definately chose an appropriate handle.
“When there are no facts to argue in your favor, pull a quote out of the stock, one of thousands of more boring and much less notable quotes, and repeat it until your voice gives out. ”
Facts?
Check out her interview with Katie Couric.
Let Mrs. Palin speak for herself.
And as for repeating it, Mr. Palin made the palling around with terrorists (plural) charge many times.
As one Marxist wrote about Mrs. Palin:
“I don’t think anyone, however charitable, could watch the interviews and conclude that the Alaskan governor is highly qualified to take up the reins of executive power. She’s no Dick Cheney, seasoned in state craft. But I thought at least Palin’s not a waffler. Wrong. Here she was trimming on issues like choice and man’s supposed contribution to global warming. Next thing you know, she’ll be back-dating Creation to the Miocene and tipping her hat to Al Gore, a creature who in Palin’s previous incarnation, less than three weeks ago (only 3,999 years and 344 days after the Beginning, on her old calendar) she’d have been happy to hunt from the air in whatever state-owned helicopters weren’t otherwise engaged in shuttling Piper and the kids to school or home for the weekend”
Less you lump him in with the leftists you know, he is not charitable towards Caroline.
From his website:
“And all of those sharp Upper Eastsiders who were ready to crow over those idiots from Alaska who could see Russia from some places, but worked and dined with thieves, sociopaths and corporate welfare kings? Was it too close to home for them to read the handwriting on the wall while Alaska was just far enough away for them to understand? Caroline Kennedy answers questions like Sarah Palin in the early days, but she is One of Them so Fit to Run. “
And this:
“Fifth prediction: The Alaskan fixation will continue. Palin haters and admirers abound. Anonymous bloggers to the Anchorage Daily News drive those of us who are interested in an exchange of ideas on the state and its people absolutely batty. There is a way for non-Alaskans to learn about Alaska before 2012. The Alaska Public Radio Network (APRN.ORG), the best statewide public radio in the nation, is available on the web. APRN has been a farm system for NPR for years. Peter Kenyan, Elizabeth Arnold, Corey Flintoff and others did their time in Alaska. Listen to APRN, especially back programs of the eclectic AK, with a map at your side to locate communities. Then you can drive Alaskans nuts with astute advice. And, remember. Sarah Palin said a lot of stupid things on the campaign trail, but did not steal a dime of your money. Remind the next New Yorker you meet who sneers at Alaska, to say hello to Bernie.”
I do not find Ms. Kennedy any smarter or dumber than Mrs. Palin.
“I do not find Ms. Kennedy any smarter or dumber than Mrs. Palin.” (Stephanie Plume)
What has Caroline ever accomplished in her life? Nothing. Now compare with the accomplishments of Sarah Palin and maybe you will shut up. You are making a fool of yourself with your hater of Sarah and your lack of judgment is so evident that I don’t know why you insist this way. What is it with you? Jealousy? Fear! Or are you just the type of woman that likes to bitch another woman?
Stephanie, you started out with your first entry on this thread with the comment:
You then said:
Considering you base a parent’s intelligence on the behavior of their children, I find it hard to believe this 180 degree switch. I’m quite sure none of the Schlossberg children have had a child out of wedlock. Using your personal standard, Caroline Kennedy Schlossberg would have to come out the superior intellect.
So much for your consistency.
Instead, to substantiate your “plurality” error by Palin, you cite an unlinked “Marxist”, “leftist”, and who knows who with quotes from who knows where.
My suggestion… if you wish to quote someone, please provide the links, as most of us here do. And, BTW, I don’t consider a “Marxist” or “leftist” view of Palin and her qualifications anywhere close to unbiased, nor accurate.
Lastly, Palin is correct in the plural of “terrorists”… if you include Ayers’ wife Bernadette, and regular dinner companion, Rashid Khalidi. Last I looked, three constitutes plural. And that’s only the ones we *know* about.
However since many have not heard of either of these two… obviously including you… it did little good for Palin to bring them up by name in a Couric interview. And had she done so, it too would have ended up on the cutting room floor as inconsequential.
It would, however, been behooving of an honest press to investigate Obama’s very numerous and questionable – personal associations in order to more thoroughly vet a candidate for POTUS.
So if you are basing your “plurality” judgment of Palin on the media, you have just been taken to the mental cleaners.
Democrat outrage at an unqualified woman running for office? ZERO
Democrat outrage at an unqualified woman being appointed for office? ZERO
Sarah Palin didn’t have long to wait for her Kharma
Basically, the left (apparently that includes you these days ,stephanieplume) believes that you empower the poor and middle class by giving power to the elite. They believe that the poor and middle class deserve a fair share of the wealth, but as soon as a middle class upstart like Governor Palin even thinks of moving up the POWER ladder, she needs to be put in her place. A well heeled charity worker, however, DESERVES to be in power.
It’s very telling of what the true nature of socialism is. As long as everyone get equal scraps, no one is supposed to care that the leaders live in luxury. You’re supposed to hate those that earn more through economic superiority or hard work, but love those that take more through political superiority.
The remark about Bristol was wrong. I see that she (and Levi) got $300,000 from People for photos of their new child. That’s not dumb.
Sorry about the links.
First link:
http://www.counterpunch.org/diarypart3.html
scroll to Sept 13th (also read Oct1 . I think you might agree with his assessment of McCain and the bail-out)
Second link:
http://www.counterpunch.org/conn12262008.html
I heard of Dohrn (bad) and Khalidi (not bad).
Palin called Khalidi “radical professor” not a “terrorist.”
Dohrn and Ayers fit Wisdom’s def of leftist.
According to David Horowitz (who can rarely be trusted) Bernadine Dohrn spent a rally for assassinated Black Panthers Fred Hampton and Mark Clark (90 bullets in, one out) parading on the stage in the manner of a stripper. He set that as the beginning of his turn against radical chic
As Mrs. Palin, I’l let her speak for herself:
http://wonkette.com/405326/sarah-palin-interview-circuit-now-includes-wingnut-documentaries-about-msm-lies
And that was with a very friendly interviewer (“Governor Palin, not yet fully put together, rushed out to tell myself and my crew to make ourselves at home.” http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/jziegler/2009/01/07/my-interview-with-sarah-palin/#more-10885)
(Bighollywood is the new website that according to Mr. Breitbart : “is to create an atmosphere of tolerance — something that does not exist in this town.”" and that “After years of silence, conservatives are coming out of the closet.”)
(Tech secret question: How do you get quotes to appear highlighted and as an inset. I like it. very dramatic.)
I can’t tell if you are being sarcastic or genuine. I hadn’t seen that report, but if it’s true, then good for them. I’m glad they were able to get a little financial stability out of the craziness that the press brought down on them. There was a time when families were off limits, but obviously that time is in the past.
On Cockburn’s comments about Governor Palin – He based his entire opinion of her on her first MSM interview, a hack-edited interview at that. He didn’t look at her record, her history, or anything else.
On Cockburn’s comments about McCain and the bailout – Yeah, I agree with him. What does that have to do with Governor Palin?
Yeah, again, so?
So, are you retracting your ridiculous statement in 46? — “As for the genius of Sarah Palin, she is the one who believes one equals two, as she told us that our next President pals around with “terrorists” but she could name only one. Or is this a type of dialect, like “99 cent.””
What are you attempting to point out? Governor Palin was very well spoken, honest, and direct in that interview.
Overall, it looks to me like you are trying to use a bunch of third rate editorials to support the attacks that you are portraying as facts about a very intelligent, well spoken, and accomplished woman along with her family. If you are so dead set on impeaching her abilities, how about providing some actual facts about what she has done so wrong? There are dozens of FA posts pointing to her numerous accomplishments, yet for all of the negative comments, no hard facts that she has ever been anything but a highly qualified executive.
Come on Stephanie, I’ve read some of your posts in other threads. I know you’re intelligent. You just need to get the blinders off when it comes to Governor Palin. If you’re going to keep up this argument, you’ve got to try harder.
@StephaniePlume:
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@StephaniePlume:
HTML blockquote tags can create the text box.
It might help make your comments above more readable and understandable as I too join Missy in wondering what it is you were trying to say.
Sounded to me like another stream of conciousness rant against the Palin family. If so, we’re overquota for that kind of sleaze.
I seem to recall that Obama said his family was off limits. Apparently that doesn’t also apply to Palin’s family or you didn’t get the memo from Obama HQ.
Damn!
I was so looking forward to two years of comedic source material from the most vacuous of Kennedys.
The state of New York, and the democratic party, deserved Caroline.