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	<title>Comments on: Obama to send 30,000 more troops to Afghanistan: Democrats Calling For Draft</title>
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		<title>By: blast</title>
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		<dc:creator>blast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 04:52:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Scott Malensek: blast avoids the questions-NICE!&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I was not avoiding a question, I was responding to the tenor of the post.  If the writer wanted respondents to comment on specific areas he should have posed that question.  I don&#039;t get what point you are making on demanding answer to those questions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><blockquote><p>Scott Malensek: blast avoids the questions-NICE!</p></blockquote>
<p>I was not avoiding a question, I was responding to the tenor of the post.  If the writer wanted respondents to comment on specific areas he should have posed that question.  I don&#8217;t get what point you are making on demanding answer to those questions.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Malensek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Malensek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 00:07:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Dems thought it was a good idea to cut troop funding and demand a withdrawal in 6months (back in 2006), then why isn&#039;t it a good idea now when a President is saying 16months bare min, and most likely indefinitely?

Oh yeah...&#039;case that call for cutting the funds was really just anti-Bush, not anti-war; ie they were just being partisans before being patriots.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>If Dems thought it was a good idea to cut troop funding and demand a withdrawal in 6months (back in 2006), then why isn&#8217;t it a good idea now when a President is saying 16months bare min, and most likely indefinitely?</p>
<p>Oh yeah&#8230;&#8217;case that call for cutting the funds was really just anti-Bush, not anti-war; ie they were just being partisans before being patriots.</p>
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		<title>By: MataHarley</title>
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		<dc:creator>MataHarley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 23:54:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, where&#039;s &quot;the outrage&quot; for war &quot;escalation&quot; without Congressional blessings?  And why is Congress ready to bless an escalation without nary a wimper?

Oh that&#039;s right... it&#039;s a Dem POTUS....

assholes</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>BTW, where&#8217;s &#8220;the outrage&#8221; for war &#8220;escalation&#8221; without Congressional blessings?  And why is Congress ready to bless an escalation without nary a wimper?</p>
<p>Oh that&#8217;s right&#8230; it&#8217;s a Dem POTUS&#8230;.</p>
<p>assholes</p>
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		<title>By: MataHarley</title>
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		<dc:creator>MataHarley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 23:47:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry... but what&#039;s this draft crap?

&lt;a href=&quot;http://usmilitary.about.com/od/2009recruitingstatistics/a/november.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Per stats, all branches met or exceeded their recruiting goals:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;Active Duty Recruiting Statistics for Nov 2008: 

Army: 5,605 accesions with a goal of 5,275; 106 percent 
Navy: 3,082 accessions with a goal of 3,082; 100 percent 
Marine Corps: 1,868 accessions with a goal of 1,782; 105 percent 
Air Force: 2,916 accessions with a goal of 2,916; 100 percent 

On the Reserve side, all six of the reserve componants met or exceeded their recruiting goals. 

Reserve Recruiting Statistics for Nov 2008: 

Army National Guard: 5,516 accessions with a goal of 4,889; 113 percent 
Army Reserve: 3,270 accessions with a goal of 2,811; 116 percent 
Navy Reserve: 719 accessions with a goal of 719; 100 percent 
Marine Corps Reserve : 550 accessions with a goal of 550; 100 percent 
Air National Guard: 649 accessions with a goal of 588; 110 percent 
Air Force Reserve: 610 accessions with a goal of 603; 101 percent 

&lt;center&gt;&lt;b&gt;Fiscal Year 2009 Recruiting Statistics to Date 

(October 1, 2008 to Nov 30, 2008) 


FY 2009 Recruiting&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/center&gt;

Componant/Accessions/Goal/Percent 
Army  10,929 10,550  104%
Navy 6,012 6,012 100%
Marine Corps 4,851 4,657 104%
Air Force 6,252 6,252 100% 
Army National Guard 12,003 10,489 116% 
Army Reserve 6,319 5,581 110%
Navy Reserve 1,383 1,383 100% 
Marine Corps Reserve 1,518 1,190 128% 
Air National Guard 1,562 1,346 116% 
Air Force Reserve 1,466 1,459 100% &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Per &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.defenselink.mil/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=51478&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;DefenseLink, all branches enjoyed one of the strongest recruiting years in four years.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

Not enuf volunteers to stand up for America?  Forget the draft.  Up the &quot;goal&quot;....

Another &quot;fear&quot; tactic from the party that accuses others of &quot;fear&quot; tactics.  duh wuh</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>I&#8217;m sorry&#8230; but what&#8217;s this draft crap?</p>
<p><a href="http://usmilitary.about.com/od/2009recruitingstatistics/a/november.htm" rel="nofollow"><b>Per stats, all branches met or exceeded their recruiting goals:</b></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Active Duty Recruiting Statistics for Nov 2008: </p>
<p>Army: 5,605 accesions with a goal of 5,275; 106 percent<br />
Navy: 3,082 accessions with a goal of 3,082; 100 percent<br />
Marine Corps: 1,868 accessions with a goal of 1,782; 105 percent<br />
Air Force: 2,916 accessions with a goal of 2,916; 100 percent </p>
<p>On the Reserve side, all six of the reserve componants met or exceeded their recruiting goals. </p>
<p>Reserve Recruiting Statistics for Nov 2008: </p>
<p>Army National Guard: 5,516 accessions with a goal of 4,889; 113 percent<br />
Army Reserve: 3,270 accessions with a goal of 2,811; 116 percent<br />
Navy Reserve: 719 accessions with a goal of 719; 100 percent<br />
Marine Corps Reserve : 550 accessions with a goal of 550; 100 percent<br />
Air National Guard: 649 accessions with a goal of 588; 110 percent<br />
Air Force Reserve: 610 accessions with a goal of 603; 101 percent </p>
<p><center><b>Fiscal Year 2009 Recruiting Statistics to Date </p>
<p>(October 1, 2008 to Nov 30, 2008) </p>
<p>FY 2009 Recruiting</b></center></p>
<p>Componant/Accessions/Goal/Percent<br />
Army  10,929 10,550  104%<br />
Navy 6,012 6,012 100%<br />
Marine Corps 4,851 4,657 104%<br />
Air Force 6,252 6,252 100%<br />
Army National Guard 12,003 10,489 116%<br />
Army Reserve 6,319 5,581 110%<br />
Navy Reserve 1,383 1,383 100%<br />
Marine Corps Reserve 1,518 1,190 128%<br />
Air National Guard 1,562 1,346 116%<br />
Air Force Reserve 1,466 1,459 100% </p></blockquote>
<p>Per <a href="http://www.defenselink.mil/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=51478" rel="nofollow"><b>DefenseLink, all branches enjoyed one of the strongest recruiting years in four years.</b></a></p>
<p>Not enuf volunteers to stand up for America?  Forget the draft.  Up the &#8220;goal&#8221;&#8230;.</p>
<p>Another &#8220;fear&#8221; tactic from the party that accuses others of &#8220;fear&#8221; tactics.  duh wuh</p>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 23:23:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;what’s changed?&quot;
You now have an idiot as POTUS.

&quot;Is the army broken or not?&quot;
Only in Dem&#039;s mind.     But then again, they are idiots.

&quot;Were they right or not?&quot;
Dems are always wrong.

&quot;Were they playing politics with war or not?&quot;
They are always playing politicic on every issue; they respect nothing, not even wars.

&quot;Were they misleading the American people on a matter of national security or not?&quot;
Dems are always misleading people, they are corrupted manipulators.

&quot;Was all that rhetoric about ending the war in Iraq, all those non-binding resolutions, all those attempts to cut funding…was that all BS, or not?&quot;
Dems are first class bullshitters, always have, always will.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>&#8220;what’s changed?&#8221;<br />
You now have an idiot as POTUS.</p>
<p>&#8220;Is the army broken or not?&#8221;<br />
Only in Dem&#8217;s mind.     But then again, they are idiots.</p>
<p>&#8220;Were they right or not?&#8221;<br />
Dems are always wrong.</p>
<p>&#8220;Were they playing politics with war or not?&#8221;<br />
They are always playing politicic on every issue; they respect nothing, not even wars.</p>
<p>&#8220;Were they misleading the American people on a matter of national security or not?&#8221;<br />
Dems are always misleading people, they are corrupted manipulators.</p>
<p>&#8220;Was all that rhetoric about ending the war in Iraq, all those non-binding resolutions, all those attempts to cut funding…was that all BS, or not?&#8221;<br />
Dems are first class bullshitters, always have, always will.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Malensek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Malensek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 22:30:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>blast avoids the questions-NICE!
&lt;blockquote&gt;Bring back the draft is a very bad idea even if it were to augment the present volunteer effort.  Forcing someone into the military to work with someone who joined is like mixing oil and water.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Care to explain:
what’s changed?
Is the army broken or not?
Were they right or not?
Were they playing politics with war or not?
Were they misleading the American people on a matter of national security or not?
Was all that rhetoric about ending the war in Iraq, all those non-binding resolutions, all those attempts to cut funding…was that all BS, or not?

What’s changed? If there was a need for a draft because of a broken army years ago, then clearly the Army’s WAY BROKEN now…unless….</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>blast avoids the questions-NICE!</p>
<blockquote><p>Bring back the draft is a very bad idea even if it were to augment the present volunteer effort.  Forcing someone into the military to work with someone who joined is like mixing oil and water.</p></blockquote>
<p>Care to explain:<br />
what’s changed?<br />
Is the army broken or not?<br />
Were they right or not?<br />
Were they playing politics with war or not?<br />
Were they misleading the American people on a matter of national security or not?<br />
Was all that rhetoric about ending the war in Iraq, all those non-binding resolutions, all those attempts to cut funding…was that all BS, or not?</p>
<p>What’s changed? If there was a need for a draft because of a broken army years ago, then clearly the Army’s WAY BROKEN now…unless….</p>
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		<title>By: sigmundringeck</title>
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		<dc:creator>sigmundringeck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 18:56:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The US Army under the democrats will now combat global warming. Hoo-yah.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>The US Army under the democrats will now combat global warming. Hoo-yah.</p>
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		<title>By: blast</title>
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		<dc:creator>blast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 18:51:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bring back the draft is a very bad idea even if it were to augment the present volunteer effort.  Forcing someone into the military to work with someone who joined is like mixing oil and water.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Bring back the draft is a very bad idea even if it were to augment the present volunteer effort.  Forcing someone into the military to work with someone who joined is like mixing oil and water.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike's America</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/12/21/obama-to-send-30000-more-troops-to-afghanistan-democrats-calling-for-draft/comment-page-1/#comment-143635</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike's America</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 18:46:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is the army broken or not?

NO

Were they [Dems]right or not?

Did we &quot;lose&quot; in Iraq? NO! Dems were wrong and defeatist


Were they playing politics with war or not?

Of course they were. 

Were they misleading the American people on a matter of national security or not?

Did they mean to sell the American people on defeat for political gain? Of course!

Was all that rhetoric about ending the war in Iraq, all those non-binding resolutions, all those attempts to cut funding…was that all BS, or not?

Sure was. No one could stop them from pulling the troops out now could they?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Is the army broken or not?</p>
<p>NO</p>
<p>Were they [Dems]right or not?</p>
<p>Did we &#8220;lose&#8221; in Iraq? NO! Dems were wrong and defeatist</p>
<p>Were they playing politics with war or not?</p>
<p>Of course they were. </p>
<p>Were they misleading the American people on a matter of national security or not?</p>
<p>Did they mean to sell the American people on defeat for political gain? Of course!</p>
<p>Was all that rhetoric about ending the war in Iraq, all those non-binding resolutions, all those attempts to cut funding…was that all BS, or not?</p>
<p>Sure was. No one could stop them from pulling the troops out now could they?</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/12/21/obama-to-send-30000-more-troops-to-afghanistan-democrats-calling-for-draft/comment-page-1/#comment-143621</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 17:22:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rocky, &lt;blockquote&gt;To my knowledge, the question of reinstating the draft was a dead issue and did not arise again in the public forum following 2003-2004 Bush-Kerry election propaganda.&lt;/blockquote&gt;  I believe you&#039;ll find the links I provided are from 2006, 2007, and 2008.  However, you are very correct in remembering that in late 2004 Democrats screamed that if Bush was re-elected there would be a draft.  4yrs later....still no draft.  My questions remain:
what’s changed?
Is the army broken or not?
Were they right or not?
Were they playing politics with war or not?
Were they misleading the American people on a matter of national security or not?
Was all that rhetoric about ending the war in Iraq, all those non-binding resolutions, all those attempts to cut funding…was that all BS, or not?

What’s changed? If there was a need for a draft because of a broken army years ago, then clearly the Army’s WAY BROKEN now…unless….</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Rocky,<br />
<blockquote>To my knowledge, the question of reinstating the draft was a dead issue and did not arise again in the public forum following 2003-2004 Bush-Kerry election propaganda.</p></blockquote>
<p>  I believe you&#8217;ll find the links I provided are from 2006, 2007, and 2008.  However, you are very correct in remembering that in late 2004 Democrats screamed that if Bush was re-elected there would be a draft.  4yrs later&#8230;.still no draft.  My questions remain:<br />
what’s changed?<br />
Is the army broken or not?<br />
Were they right or not?<br />
Were they playing politics with war or not?<br />
Were they misleading the American people on a matter of national security or not?<br />
Was all that rhetoric about ending the war in Iraq, all those non-binding resolutions, all those attempts to cut funding…was that all BS, or not?</p>
<p>What’s changed? If there was a need for a draft because of a broken army years ago, then clearly the Army’s WAY BROKEN now…unless….</p>
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