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		<title>By: Rodney G. Graves</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/12/17/to-the-maximum-extent-of-the-law-reader-post/comment-page-2/#comment-143895</link>
		<dc:creator>Rodney G. Graves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 04:30:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>blast

Molon labe.</description>
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<p>Molon labe.</p>
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		<title>By: Hard Right</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/12/17/to-the-maximum-extent-of-the-law-reader-post/comment-page-2/#comment-143890</link>
		<dc:creator>Hard Right</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 01:42:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and add Robert Fram to the list.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Oh, and add Robert Fram to the list.</p>
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		<title>By: Hard Right</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/12/17/to-the-maximum-extent-of-the-law-reader-post/comment-page-2/#comment-143889</link>
		<dc:creator>Hard Right</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 01:41:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cute, but I&#039;m not buying it. You ARE indirectly defending him. YOU are saying that the NSA surveillance was illegal. Therefore he did the right thing per your reasoning. Really, I have definitely lost some respect for you. You make post after post showing where you stand, then want me to belive you didn&#039;t mean any of it. Let me make it clear to you, the NSA surveilance was NOT illegal. Tamm deserves to be prosecuted by what he himself has said.

You also defended lawfare with your sarcastic little response. Your ignorance on Lawfare is showing. Google Michael Ratner and Jon Eisenberg to learn something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Cute, but I&#8217;m not buying it. You ARE indirectly defending him. YOU are saying that the NSA surveillance was illegal. Therefore he did the right thing per your reasoning. Really, I have definitely lost some respect for you. You make post after post showing where you stand, then want me to belive you didn&#8217;t mean any of it. Let me make it clear to you, the NSA surveilance was NOT illegal. Tamm deserves to be prosecuted by what he himself has said.</p>
<p>You also defended lawfare with your sarcastic little response. Your ignorance on Lawfare is showing. Google Michael Ratner and Jon Eisenberg to learn something.</p>
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		<title>By: blast</title>
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		<dc:creator>blast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 00:01:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Hard Right: Your defense of him and “lawfare” is despicable.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Find where I defend Tamm...  you won&#039;t find it because I haven&#039;t.  Get your facts straight.

Rod, read my comment #60 to answer you question on Tamm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><blockquote><p>Hard Right: Your defense of him and “lawfare” is despicable.</p></blockquote>
<p>Find where I defend Tamm&#8230;  you won&#8217;t find it because I haven&#8217;t.  Get your facts straight.</p>
<p>Rod, read my comment #60 to answer you question on Tamm.</p>
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		<title>By: Hard Right</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/12/17/to-the-maximum-extent-of-the-law-reader-post/comment-page-2/#comment-143874</link>
		<dc:creator>Hard Right</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 22:07:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blast, he did not follow the proper whistle blower channels. He deserves to be prosecuted. Not to mention he decided on his own it was an illegal program--which was not his place or area of knowledge. There is NO excuse or justification for what he did. PERIOD. Your defense of him and &quot;lawfare&quot; is despicable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Blast, he did not follow the proper whistle blower channels. He deserves to be prosecuted. Not to mention he decided on his own it was an illegal program&#8211;which was not his place or area of knowledge. There is NO excuse or justification for what he did. PERIOD. Your defense of him and &#8220;lawfare&#8221; is despicable.</p>
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		<title>By: Rodney G. Graves</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/12/17/to-the-maximum-extent-of-the-law-reader-post/comment-page-2/#comment-143871</link>
		<dc:creator>Rodney G. Graves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 21:05:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>blasted,

Enough already of your moral equivocations.  Should Thomas Tamm be prosecuted or not.</description>
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<p>Enough already of your moral equivocations.  Should Thomas Tamm be prosecuted or not.</p>
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		<title>By: blast</title>
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		<dc:creator>blast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 19:01:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rodney, enough already.  Do you think the government should have closed down or revoked the FCC licenses of companies that released the Abu Grab photos?  You know their first Amendment protections allowed them to release that scum and it cost American lives.  Well, they didn&#039;t because of the protection.  Was it right to release it, no, but that is how our system works.  And that case I believe actually can be connected to lives lost. 

I don&#039;t buy your argument about the endangering the troops with safeguards on the fourth Amendment. Maybe you trust the government to be honest brokers on all matters, but I don&#039;t.  While you are crusading to save lives, why not take guns away from people in the USA.  There are many people killed with handguns etc, why not take them all away?  Because we have the 2nd Amendment to protect us from the whims of any given leader.  Maybe if they leaked Obama was listening in on &quot;terrorist&quot; groups in the USA and the groups were actually conservative political organizations you might change your mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Rodney, enough already.  Do you think the government should have closed down or revoked the FCC licenses of companies that released the Abu Grab photos?  You know their first Amendment protections allowed them to release that scum and it cost American lives.  Well, they didn&#8217;t because of the protection.  Was it right to release it, no, but that is how our system works.  And that case I believe actually can be connected to lives lost. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t buy your argument about the endangering the troops with safeguards on the fourth Amendment. Maybe you trust the government to be honest brokers on all matters, but I don&#8217;t.  While you are crusading to save lives, why not take guns away from people in the USA.  There are many people killed with handguns etc, why not take them all away?  Because we have the 2nd Amendment to protect us from the whims of any given leader.  Maybe if they leaked Obama was listening in on &#8220;terrorist&#8221; groups in the USA and the groups were actually conservative political organizations you might change your mind.</p>
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		<title>By: Rodney G. Graves</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/12/17/to-the-maximum-extent-of-the-law-reader-post/comment-page-2/#comment-143858</link>
		<dc:creator>Rodney G. Graves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 18:42:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>blast,

I never claimed to be the only one to have worn the uniform of my country.  You claim to have done so as well, and you should know better than to propose policies which endanger our servicemen.

That makes your position even less forgivable.</description>
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<p>I never claimed to be the only one to have worn the uniform of my country.  You claim to have done so as well, and you should know better than to propose policies which endanger our servicemen.</p>
<p>That makes your position even less forgivable.</p>
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		<title>By: blast</title>
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		<dc:creator>blast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 18:01:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MataHarley, your rant was warranted, so no harm no foul.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>MataHarley, your rant was warranted, so no harm no foul.</p>
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		<title>By: MataHarley</title>
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		<dc:creator>MataHarley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 17:58:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for the apology, blast.  I apologize for my rant, as normally I&#039;d just let it pass with silence.  But as I said... you were the final straw on finally speaking out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Thank you for the apology, blast.  I apologize for my rant, as normally I&#8217;d just let it pass with silence.  But as I said&#8230; you were the final straw on finally speaking out.</p>
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