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	<title>Comments on: Ten Years Ago, Bill Clinton: &#8220;Iraq Has Abused It&#8217;s Final Chance&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: MataHarley</title>
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		<dc:creator>MataHarley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 04:10:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ms. Warp&#039;ed... why don&#039;t you give us a few links to examples of Clinton, pleading with the GOP Congress to take action on Bin Laden.  Or perhaps some policies and diplomatic efforts he proposed in order to get Bin Laden.

Or are you again just running off at the mouth?

ooops... that&#039;s right.  Clinton didn&#039;t act when he could in 1996... despite OBL&#039;s relationship with the 1993 WTC bombers, and despite the fact OBL trained the Somalis who multilated our soldiers in 1993.  Instead, he tried to get Saudi Arabia to take OBL off Sudan&#039;s hands...

From &lt;a href=&quot;http://archive.newsmax.com/audio/BILLVH.mp3&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;a 2002 Clinton speech&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;Clinton: So we tried to be quite aggressive with them [al Qaeda]. We got – well, Mr. bin Laden used to live in Sudan. He was expelled from Saudi Arabia in 1991, then he went to Sudan. And we&#039;d been hearing that the Sudanese wanted America to start dealing with them again. They released him. 

&lt;b&gt;At the time, 1996, he had committed no crime against America, so I did not bring him here because we had no basis on which to hold him, though we knew he wanted to commit crimes against America.&lt;/b&gt; So I pleaded with the Saudis to take him, &#039;cause they could have. But they thought it was a hot potato and they didn&#039;t and that&#039;s how he wound up in Afghanistan.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Of course, in 2004, Teflon Bill retracted his statements when testifying for the 911 Commission.  Just couldn&#039;t take that much scrutiny into his lack of performance INRE the global Islamic jihad movements increasing their assaults against US interests.

I&#039;d suggest you start searching for some links to back up your charges, or I personally will stop digging you out of the spam filter.... for evidently Askimet has a good handle on who and what you are... political spam. And it&#039;s much easier for me to hit the &quot;delete all&quot; button then find your posts to approve.  Especially since they offer absolutely nothing but rabid, partisan lies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Ms. Warp&#8217;ed&#8230; why don&#8217;t you give us a few links to examples of Clinton, pleading with the GOP Congress to take action on Bin Laden.  Or perhaps some policies and diplomatic efforts he proposed in order to get Bin Laden.</p>
<p>Or are you again just running off at the mouth?</p>
<p>ooops&#8230; that&#8217;s right.  Clinton didn&#8217;t act when he could in 1996&#8230; despite OBL&#8217;s relationship with the 1993 WTC bombers, and despite the fact OBL trained the Somalis who multilated our soldiers in 1993.  Instead, he tried to get Saudi Arabia to take OBL off Sudan&#8217;s hands&#8230;</p>
<p>From <a href="http://archive.newsmax.com/audio/BILLVH.mp3" rel="nofollow"><b>a 2002 Clinton speech</b></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Clinton: So we tried to be quite aggressive with them [al Qaeda]. We got – well, Mr. bin Laden used to live in Sudan. He was expelled from Saudi Arabia in 1991, then he went to Sudan. And we&#8217;d been hearing that the Sudanese wanted America to start dealing with them again. They released him. </p>
<p><b>At the time, 1996, he had committed no crime against America, so I did not bring him here because we had no basis on which to hold him, though we knew he wanted to commit crimes against America.</b> So I pleaded with the Saudis to take him, &#8217;cause they could have. But they thought it was a hot potato and they didn&#8217;t and that&#8217;s how he wound up in Afghanistan.</p></blockquote>
<p>Of course, in 2004, Teflon Bill retracted his statements when testifying for the 911 Commission.  Just couldn&#8217;t take that much scrutiny into his lack of performance INRE the global Islamic jihad movements increasing their assaults against US interests.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d suggest you start searching for some links to back up your charges, or I personally will stop digging you out of the spam filter&#8230;. for evidently Askimet has a good handle on who and what you are&#8230; political spam. And it&#8217;s much easier for me to hit the &#8220;delete all&#8221; button then find your posts to approve.  Especially since they offer absolutely nothing but rabid, partisan lies.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 03:51:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The issue now for Iraqis isn’t how many “generations it will take [for them] to be corrupt-free”, the problem is more immediate; it’s how to keep the massive factional corruption inside the Iraqi government from intensifying...&quot;   (Simple Done)

If you wouldn&#039;t have mentioned &quot;Iraqis&quot;, I could have swear you were talking about the US Democrat&#039;s Congress... lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>&#8220;The issue now for Iraqis isn’t how many “generations it will take [for them] to be corrupt-free”, the problem is more immediate; it’s how to keep the massive factional corruption inside the Iraqi government from intensifying&#8230;&#8221;   (Simple Done)</p>
<p>If you wouldn&#8217;t have mentioned &#8220;Iraqis&#8221;, I could have swear you were talking about the US Democrat&#8217;s Congress&#8230; lol</p>
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		<title>By: simply done</title>
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		<dc:creator>simply done</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 03:43:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
(Yahoo)  Interior Minister Jawad al-Bolani told The Associated Press that an investigating judge ordered the officials released &quot;because they are innocent&quot; and that there was no evidence that they attempted to restore the Baath party, whose exiled leaders staunchly oppose the current government.

He said 19 were freed from custody and that charges were to be dismissed against the remaining four who were not in custody. Earlier in the day, al-Bolani told reporters that the charges were politically motivated by those trying to undermine the interior ministry.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The issue now for Iraqis isn&#039;t how many &quot;generations it will take [for them] to be corrupt-free&quot;, the problem is more immediate;  it&#039;s how to keep the massive factional corruption inside the Iraqi government from intensifying, reflected in its security forces, and igniting competing parties tempers as they position themselves for the provincial elections.  This is the more immediate problem. 

This first little dangerous step of falsely arresting political opponents, and releasing allies can easily lead to finally  shooting, bombing, and kidnapping your opponents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><blockquote><p>
(Yahoo)  Interior Minister Jawad al-Bolani told The Associated Press that an investigating judge ordered the officials released &#8220;because they are innocent&#8221; and that there was no evidence that they attempted to restore the Baath party, whose exiled leaders staunchly oppose the current government.</p>
<p>He said 19 were freed from custody and that charges were to be dismissed against the remaining four who were not in custody. Earlier in the day, al-Bolani told reporters that the charges were politically motivated by those trying to undermine the interior ministry.
</p></blockquote>
<p>The issue now for Iraqis isn&#8217;t how many &#8220;generations it will take [for them] to be corrupt-free&#8221;, the problem is more immediate;  it&#8217;s how to keep the massive factional corruption inside the Iraqi government from intensifying, reflected in its security forces, and igniting competing parties tempers as they position themselves for the provincial elections.  This is the more immediate problem. </p>
<p>This first little dangerous step of falsely arresting political opponents, and releasing allies can easily lead to finally  shooting, bombing, and kidnapping your opponents.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike's America</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike's America</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 05:44:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Corruption in Iraq? Much lower than it is in Obama&#039;s Chicago. Doesn&#039;t Iraq have a lower murder rate than Obama&#039;s Chicago too?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Corruption in Iraq? Much lower than it is in Obama&#8217;s Chicago. Doesn&#8217;t Iraq have a lower murder rate than Obama&#8217;s Chicago too?</p>
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		<title>By: Wordsmith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wordsmith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 04:52:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-143088&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;simply done&lt;/a&gt;: What&#039;s your point?  Is that supposed to be bad news?  Sounds like a positive to me.   It&#039;ll be generations before they&#039;re corrupt-free, like our own politicians.  ;)  Good to see them doing the necessary weeding while gardening.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>@<a href="#comment-143088" rel="nofollow">simply done</a>: What&#8217;s your point?  Is that supposed to be bad news?  Sounds like a positive to me.   It&#8217;ll be generations before they&#8217;re corrupt-free, like our own politicians.  <img src='http://floppingaces.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />   Good to see them doing the necessary weeding while gardening.</p>
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		<title>By: simply done</title>
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		<dc:creator>simply done</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 03:37:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Years on... and still fragile:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/18/world/middleeast/18iraq.html?_r=1&amp;hp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Years on&#8230; and still fragile:<br />
<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/18/world/middleeast/18iraq.html?_r=1&#038;hp" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/18/world/middleeast/18iraq.html?_r=1&#038;hp</a></p>
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		<title>By: Paul Couturier - OIF Veteran</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Couturier - OIF Veteran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 19:58:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I for one just LOVE badgering gutless, hate-filled, anti-military extremists about their SILENCE as that draft-dodging, pot-smoking womanizer sent troops to die in places thast NEVER attacked us, like BOSNIA!!!!!

Gutless, hate-filled, anti-military extremists DO NOT like going back to that time in American history; they start popping springs when you try to discuss that with them, and will go out of their way to avoid discussing the UNECESSARY deaths of Soldiers that took place in countries that cliton sent troops to; countries that NEVER attacked us, like BOSNIA!!!!

Funny how they love to rant and rave about &quot;Bush&#039;s war&quot;, but they&#039;re mysteriously silent when it comes to cliton&#039;s war!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>I for one just LOVE badgering gutless, hate-filled, anti-military extremists about their SILENCE as that draft-dodging, pot-smoking womanizer sent troops to die in places thast NEVER attacked us, like BOSNIA!!!!!</p>
<p>Gutless, hate-filled, anti-military extremists DO NOT like going back to that time in American history; they start popping springs when you try to discuss that with them, and will go out of their way to avoid discussing the UNECESSARY deaths of Soldiers that took place in countries that cliton sent troops to; countries that NEVER attacked us, like BOSNIA!!!!</p>
<p>Funny how they love to rant and rave about &#8220;Bush&#8217;s war&#8221;, but they&#8217;re mysteriously silent when it comes to cliton&#8217;s war!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Hard Right</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hard Right</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 17:27:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another try at spin that fails miserably, Fit. I knew one of you lefties would try that lame arguement.

The Right criticized Clinton due to the timing of the cruise missile attacks, NOT for merely doing it. 

For Kosovo we had no national security intersts there whatsoever--we did in Iraq and Afghanistan.
We also understood Clinton was within his power as CINC to send troops somewhere without Congressional authorization. The left doesn&#039;t care, so long as a dem is doing it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Another try at spin that fails miserably, Fit. I knew one of you lefties would try that lame arguement.</p>
<p>The Right criticized Clinton due to the timing of the cruise missile attacks, NOT for merely doing it. </p>
<p>For Kosovo we had no national security intersts there whatsoever&#8211;we did in Iraq and Afghanistan.<br />
We also understood Clinton was within his power as CINC to send troops somewhere without Congressional authorization. The left doesn&#8217;t care, so long as a dem is doing it.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 17:12:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fit Fit, and vice versa.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Fit Fit, and vice versa.</p>
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		<title>By: Fit fit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fit fit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 16:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s funny I remember the silence from the left and the outrage from the right over both of those.  

Just remember this is how the &lt;em&gt;right&lt;/em&gt; thinks:

Dem= What they do is bad no matter what
Republican= What they do is Ok no matter what.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>That&#8217;s funny I remember the silence from the left and the outrage from the right over both of those.  </p>
<p>Just remember this is how the <em>right</em> thinks:</p>
<p>Dem= What they do is bad no matter what<br />
Republican= What they do is Ok no matter what.</p>
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