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	<title>Comments on: Iraqi Shoe Thrower A Big Fan Of Sadr and Che</title>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/12/16/iraqi-shoe-thrower-a-big-fan-of-sadr-and-che/#comment-143776</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 21:25:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I guess when they list the most dumbeist President’s in U.S history, George W. Bush is a 
“shoe in” to get the #1 spot!&quot;

You&#039;re also a &quot;shoe in&quot; to be hooked on phonics&#039; favorite customer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>&#8220;I guess when they list the most dumbeist President’s in U.S history, George W. Bush is a<br />
“shoe in” to get the #1 spot!&#8221;</p>
<p>You&#8217;re also a &#8220;shoe in&#8221; to be hooked on phonics&#8217; favorite customer.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/12/16/iraqi-shoe-thrower-a-big-fan-of-sadr-and-che/#comment-143773</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 21:20:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it funny how Muntadhar al-Zeidi acts as if he grieves about the deaths of innocent Iraqis, but is perfectly 
fine with the violent acts perpetrated by Muqtada Al-Sadr and his loyalists. Just my perspective. He blames the
presence of the United States military for the deaths, but not Al-Sadr for the countless attacks he has orchestrated 
against Sunnis, who bore the most suffering from the fighting between Sunni Insurgents and Al-Sadr&#039;s Shia&#039; militants. 
Which by the way is largely responsible for the violence in Iraq.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>I find it funny how Muntadhar al-Zeidi acts as if he grieves about the deaths of innocent Iraqis, but is perfectly<br />
fine with the violent acts perpetrated by Muqtada Al-Sadr and his loyalists. Just my perspective. He blames the<br />
presence of the United States military for the deaths, but not Al-Sadr for the countless attacks he has orchestrated<br />
against Sunnis, who bore the most suffering from the fighting between Sunni Insurgents and Al-Sadr&#8217;s Shia&#8217; militants.<br />
Which by the way is largely responsible for the violence in Iraq.</p>
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		<title>By: Hard Right</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/12/16/iraqi-shoe-thrower-a-big-fan-of-sadr-and-che/#comment-143185</link>
		<dc:creator>Hard Right</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 18:39:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. Nothing says you&#039;ve made it like your own web stalker. Dead Weight...truth in advertising.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Wow. Nothing says you&#8217;ve made it like your own web stalker. Dead Weight&#8230;truth in advertising.</p>
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		<title>By: MataHarley</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/12/16/iraqi-shoe-thrower-a-big-fan-of-sadr-and-che/#comment-143181</link>
		<dc:creator>MataHarley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 18:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just carrying on with the traditional ban that was in place, HR.  

DW, aka DW5000, aka MikesDumbmerica -  also less affectionately known as DimWit and DeadWeight -  regularly tries as well.  That&#039;s why he started his own website, dedicated to his personal hatred of Mike&#039;s A.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Just carrying on with the traditional ban that was in place, HR.  </p>
<p>DW, aka DW5000, aka MikesDumbmerica &#8211;  also less affectionately known as DimWit and DeadWeight &#8211;  regularly tries as well.  That&#8217;s why he started his own website, dedicated to his personal hatred of Mike&#8217;s A.</p>
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		<title>By: Hard Right</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/12/16/iraqi-shoe-thrower-a-big-fan-of-sadr-and-che/#comment-143180</link>
		<dc:creator>Hard Right</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 17:59:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David and Jasmine, charade.....transgendered? 
Either way, thanks. We need to break out the moonbatacide spray it seems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>David and Jasmine, charade&#8230;..transgendered?<br />
Either way, thanks. We need to break out the moonbatacide spray it seems.</p>
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		<title>By: MataHarley</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/12/16/iraqi-shoe-thrower-a-big-fan-of-sadr-and-che/#comment-143176</link>
		<dc:creator>MataHarley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 17:39:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hard Right, Charde is Jasmine, aka David, aka David101 etal attempting to worm her way back thru the spam filters with her latest incarnation.  I booted her butt back to the spam filter.

She was, of course, the authoress of Scott&#039;s &quot;dumbeist&quot; best post of the week award.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Hard Right, Charde is Jasmine, aka David, aka David101 etal attempting to worm her way back thru the spam filters with her latest incarnation.  I booted her butt back to the spam filter.</p>
<p>She was, of course, the authoress of Scott&#8217;s &#8220;dumbeist&#8221; best post of the week award.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/12/16/iraqi-shoe-thrower-a-big-fan-of-sadr-and-che/#comment-143152</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 14:27:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>EASILY the best post of the week&lt;blockquote&gt;I guess when they list the most dumbeist President’s in U.S history, George W. Bush is a “shoe in” to get the #1 spot!&lt;/blockquote&gt;

LOVE LOVE LOVE the &quot;dumbeist&quot; part, OMG!  That&#039;s awesome!  Please come back.  It&#039;s like saying someone doesn&#039;t know how to reed and right.  FRIGGIN CLASSIK!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>EASILY the best post of the week<br />
<blockquote>I guess when they list the most dumbeist President’s in U.S history, George W. Bush is a “shoe in” to get the #1 spot!</p></blockquote>
<p>LOVE LOVE LOVE the &#8220;dumbeist&#8221; part, OMG!  That&#8217;s awesome!  Please come back.  It&#8217;s like saying someone doesn&#8217;t know how to reed and right.  FRIGGIN CLASSIK!</p>
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		<title>By: Hard Right</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hard Right</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 14:17:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Charade, go troll elsewhere. We are over our quota for inbred leftist trolls. Wonder if you&#039;ll be here when your messiah crashes and burns? THEN we&#039;ll see what a failed administration looks like. I&#039;m betting no as your kind can dish it out, but can&#039;t take it. 

Craig, batterbrain is displaying his selfless narcissism. You see, he&#039;s showing compassion in order to feel better about himself while making himself feel superior to others. So by taking the stance the poor &quot;victim&quot; of &quot;bushitler&quot; should be let go, he gets to pretend he&#039;s a good person and pat himself on the back. Leftists have a strong need to feel they are special and superior to others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Charade, go troll elsewhere. We are over our quota for inbred leftist trolls. Wonder if you&#8217;ll be here when your messiah crashes and burns? THEN we&#8217;ll see what a failed administration looks like. I&#8217;m betting no as your kind can dish it out, but can&#8217;t take it. </p>
<p>Craig, batterbrain is displaying his selfless narcissism. You see, he&#8217;s showing compassion in order to feel better about himself while making himself feel superior to others. So by taking the stance the poor &#8220;victim&#8221; of &#8220;bushitler&#8221; should be let go, he gets to pretend he&#8217;s a good person and pat himself on the back. Leftists have a strong need to feel they are special and superior to others.</p>
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		<title>By: Rocky_B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rocky_B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 09:48:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe Strummer;
&lt;blockquote&gt;So the guy throws a shoe at Bush. So he should be imprisoned for 15 years? 5 years? Is this what counts as “freedom” in Iraq?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

His imprisonment, as pointed out, is up to the Iraqi justice system. If they adhere to their standards then yes. And the notion/assumption that since Iraq was liberated and the people can now enjoy freedom they did not have under Saddam, that now lawlessness is an accepted behavior, an inherent right, and nobody should serve jail time is laughable. 

Onan;
I suspect Mata was not referring solely to the definition or the source I used, but to the rest of my argument, which does seem to have &quot;stymied&quot; you, as you ignored most of it.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Did you know that Joseph Farah of World Net Daily was a homosexual and a baby eater? I bet he’s against the the registration of child predators too.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

By the later statement, it appears my suspicion was correct and you DO have a problem with child predators being registered and monitored. Why is that? Does such legislation cramp your style?

I used the Wikipedia definition of &quot;cruel and inhuman&quot; as I figured that as a proponent of criminal rights, you might find their interpretation more palatable as they tend towards the more &quot;liberal&quot; of views. 

The links you referred to; http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Joseph_Farah&amp;direction=next&amp;oldid=256521318 (as edited by IP address; 208.86.117.15) &amp; http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Joseph_Farah&amp;direction=next&amp;oldid=226248103 (as edited by IP address; 76.210.68.126) is what Wikipedia moderators refer to as internet vandalism. So, by your reference are you coming clean to admit guilt in vandalizing their websites as well? 

Obviously your angst against Joseph Farah is that he is very active in speaking out against partial birth abortion. Yet I don&#039;t see how comparing those apples to these oranges improves your credibility.

1) Pray tell what does Joseph Farah have to do with a shoe thrower?
2) Even if he were homosexual, which I doubt, I suggest you are not making any points with LBGT in the Dem party by insinuating that being of the homosexual lifestyle automatically makes them a child predator.
 
If your intention was merely to point out that Wikipedia definitions can be manipulated and therefore untrustworthy, then perhaps you would rather use the English Bill of Rights of 1689, from which the term originates:
&lt;blockquote&gt;
First appearing in the English Bill of Rights of 1689, drafted by Parliament at the accession of William and Mary, the phrase “cruel and unusual punishment” seems to have been directed against punishments unauthorized by statute, beyond the jurisdiction of the sentencing court, or disproportionate to the offense committed. 
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Or as the Founding Fathers viewed it:
&lt;blockquote&gt;
It became part of the Bill of Rights in 1791 as the Eighth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution: “Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.” The American draftsman intended that the phrase apply to “tortures” and other “barbarous” methods of punishment, such as pillorying, disemboweling, decapitation, and drawing and quartering. In other words, what mattered in the American context was unusual cruelty in the method of punishment, not the prohibition of excessive punishments.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Under either version; your allegation that up to 15 years of imprisonment still fails the &quot;cruel and unusual punishment test. Yet even then, it is not how the laws of either England or America pertain to it, but how the sovereign country of Iraq defines the term. Regardless, your opinion remains a moot point.  
 
&lt;blockquote&gt;
If Maliki is smart, he’ll let him walk. 
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Why it that Onan? What are you planning to do if he doesn&#039;t? That journalist&#039;s act was an insult not only to Bush, but to Maliki. Allowing such indiscretions to slide would only serve to embolden others. Nope that is not a serious option, no matter how our MSM now seem to love the guy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Joe Strummer;</p>
<blockquote><p>So the guy throws a shoe at Bush. So he should be imprisoned for 15 years? 5 years? Is this what counts as “freedom” in Iraq?</p></blockquote>
<p>His imprisonment, as pointed out, is up to the Iraqi justice system. If they adhere to their standards then yes. And the notion/assumption that since Iraq was liberated and the people can now enjoy freedom they did not have under Saddam, that now lawlessness is an accepted behavior, an inherent right, and nobody should serve jail time is laughable. </p>
<p>Onan;<br />
I suspect Mata was not referring solely to the definition or the source I used, but to the rest of my argument, which does seem to have &#8220;stymied&#8221; you, as you ignored most of it.</p>
<blockquote><p>Did you know that Joseph Farah of World Net Daily was a homosexual and a baby eater? I bet he’s against the the registration of child predators too.</p></blockquote>
<p>By the later statement, it appears my suspicion was correct and you DO have a problem with child predators being registered and monitored. Why is that? Does such legislation cramp your style?</p>
<p>I used the Wikipedia definition of &#8220;cruel and inhuman&#8221; as I figured that as a proponent of criminal rights, you might find their interpretation more palatable as they tend towards the more &#8220;liberal&#8221; of views. </p>
<p>The links you referred to; <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Joseph_Farah&#038;direction=next&#038;oldid=256521318" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Joseph_Farah&#038;direction=next&#038;oldid=256521318</a> (as edited by IP address; 208.86.117.15) &amp; <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Joseph_Farah&#038;direction=next&#038;oldid=226248103" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Joseph_Farah&#038;direction=next&#038;oldid=226248103</a> (as edited by IP address; 76.210.68.126) is what Wikipedia moderators refer to as internet vandalism. So, by your reference are you coming clean to admit guilt in vandalizing their websites as well? </p>
<p>Obviously your angst against Joseph Farah is that he is very active in speaking out against partial birth abortion. Yet I don&#8217;t see how comparing those apples to these oranges improves your credibility.</p>
<p>1) Pray tell what does Joseph Farah have to do with a shoe thrower?<br />
2) Even if he were homosexual, which I doubt, I suggest you are not making any points with LBGT in the Dem party by insinuating that being of the homosexual lifestyle automatically makes them a child predator.</p>
<p>If your intention was merely to point out that Wikipedia definitions can be manipulated and therefore untrustworthy, then perhaps you would rather use the English Bill of Rights of 1689, from which the term originates:</p>
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First appearing in the English Bill of Rights of 1689, drafted by Parliament at the accession of William and Mary, the phrase “cruel and unusual punishment” seems to have been directed against punishments unauthorized by statute, beyond the jurisdiction of the sentencing court, or disproportionate to the offense committed.
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<p>Or as the Founding Fathers viewed it:</p>
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It became part of the Bill of Rights in 1791 as the Eighth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution: “Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.” The American draftsman intended that the phrase apply to “tortures” and other “barbarous” methods of punishment, such as pillorying, disemboweling, decapitation, and drawing and quartering. In other words, what mattered in the American context was unusual cruelty in the method of punishment, not the prohibition of excessive punishments.
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<p>Under either version; your allegation that up to 15 years of imprisonment still fails the &#8220;cruel and unusual punishment test. Yet even then, it is not how the laws of either England or America pertain to it, but how the sovereign country of Iraq defines the term. Regardless, your opinion remains a moot point.  </p>
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If Maliki is smart, he’ll let him walk.
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<p>Why it that Onan? What are you planning to do if he doesn&#8217;t? That journalist&#8217;s act was an insult not only to Bush, but to Maliki. Allowing such indiscretions to slide would only serve to embolden others. Nope that is not a serious option, no matter how our MSM now seem to love the guy.</p>
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		<description>Onan you are confuse.   You are the one who is a complete utter crap until proven otherwise.   And it will never happen because you are really crap.   So you hate conservative and PUMA blogs, so why don&#039;t you stick to your stinking leftists blogs?   What are you doing here anyway?   Are you lost?   I would think so.   BTW your pseudonym also stinks... only a leftist moonbat would chose such a ridicule pseudonym.   Go play somewhere else.</description>
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