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15 Dec
President Bush in Afghanistan!
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Thanks Mike, love the photos. General Odierno sure is a giant in many ways, got a lot of respect for that man. The President is obviously enjoying his time with the troops, looks mutual.
I feel bad over what the obomination will do to our troops. I’ve talked to soldiers who served under the Carter and Clinton admins.
Those soldiers know Bush cares about them.
The troops will definitely miss Bush. He has is always greeted as a rock star when he goes and meets with the troops. I doubt Obama will get the same welcome.
I hear President Bush was a killing machine in the jungles of ‘Nam, so President Bush knows the horrors of war.
Oh that’s right, his daddy Bush Sr. made sure Junior never saw a day of combat in Vietnam while thousands served and died on the battlefield.
Wow, what a “War Hero”… those photo ops, I’m surprisd President Bush didn’t break out his “Mission Accomplished” flight suit, the one with the large codpiece.
Bush never saw a day of combat while thousands served and died.
David, @David:
I see nothing in this topic about former President Bush or the jungles of Vietnam. You want to spread lies, start your own blog and quit hijacking threads here.
Whatever you are, he/she/it, you will never measure up to President Bush, ever.
@David: I guess you should ask the troops what they think about him. Who the hell cares what he did in Nam, he was a pilot in the Air National Guard, in a plane called the “Widow Maker”. And the plane was phased out during the war and he was not trained to fly another plane. At least it was better than Clinton smoking pot in GB and flipping the bird to all those that served in the Military because he loathed them.
What a farce, President Bush and Donald Rumsfeld sent our brave men and women into harms way without enough body armor and unarmored Humvees.
Anyone here remember that fact?
“Bush never saw a day of combat while thousands served and died.” (David)
And Obama was never in the Army. How about that for a President?
@David: You obviously have no clue do you. there was no armored Humvees until after the war started and they were making them as fast as they could. And most soldiers did not like the armored humvees, they had a tendency to tip over very easily. Man where do you get this crap from????
David, better to let people think you’re a fool, than to open your cock-holster and remove all doubt.
I’d be willing to bet that you’ve also never served in the military. Get back to me on that one…
Anyone remember how our “War Hero” President put a political hack (typical Bush appointee) in charge of the Walter Reed Army Medical Center?
Walter Reed Army Medical Center neglect scandal
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Building 18
WRAMC’s Building 18 is described in the article as rat- and cockroach-infested, with stained carpets, cheap mattresses, and black mold, with no heat and water reported by some soldiers at the facility. The unmonitored entrance created security problems, including reports of drug dealers in front of the facility. Injured soldiers stated they are forced to “pull guard duty” to obtain a level of security. In an attempt to alleviate the toll that Building 18′s condition is taking on the wounded soldiers, a staff team headed by a clinical social worker at WRAMC obtained a grant of $30,000 from the Commander’s Initiative Account for improvements; however, “a Psychiatry Department functionary held up the rest of the money because she feared that buying a lot of recreational equipment close to Christmas would trigger an audit.” By January the funds were no longer available.
The only farce is the one that makes an occasional appearance in here, it calls itself David.
Hey david the moron, you know why our troops didn’t have what they needed? Because BJ Clinton gutted the military to fund his social programs. Now take your BDS and shove it up your butt.
Funny how the libs came here after Obama won and told us it was time for us to put our bitterness over the election behind us yet they still hate Bush with every fiber of their being.
David: You’ve been poisoned by hate and the lies that you willfully accepted to suit your prejudices.
My advice to you is to seek professional help. Clearly your anger is being directed at Bush in an effort to avoid dealing with complex personal issues.
It does you no good to spend the rest of your miserable worthless pathetic life hating Bush when what you really need to do is learn to love yourself.
If that’s possible.
@David:
StFU
@David:
*yawn*
Wordsmith: That post will make a fine contribution to our Bush appreciation week in January.
Excellent post, Word.
David said:
Why as a matter of fact I do, David. Just like in WWII, and other wars, our military wasn’t fully equipped for the type of warfare they encountered. In WWII, they were often training with broom handles instead of rifles, as there weren’t enough to go around. Anyone remember that “farce” from the Dem/Obama hero, President Roosevelt…? The man who had a war plan in place prior to Pearl Harbor, but for the Euro front against Hitler and not the Pacific against Japan?
But speaking to the body armor and unarmored Humvees (and the fact they didn’t know those not on the front line would be encountering IEDs…), I remember very well that appropriations bill… most famous for the John F. Kerry statement “I actually did vote for the $87 billion before I voted against it”…
This was $300 bil to support the Iraq operations (plus other stuff), and provide the better grade armour to those not in the front lines (the frontline troops had state of the art at the onset).
Naturally, no equipment can be ordered until Congress doles out the cash. Congress, however, didn’t address the needed appropriations until after their summer vacation, not voting until October, and getting signed into law on Nov 6th.
Then, of course, it’s not like the additional up armoring was ready to go, waiting at the docks. It took another six months after that before substantial equipment was built and being shipped overseas.. almost a year and a half after we went in.
Why? Because Congress sat on their duff and didn’t rectify providing the back end troops their equipment because they were disgruntled sons of bitches. But *you*, David, thinks that the military should be have been ready to go, and fully equipped… omnipotent to the style of warfare they would be encountering.
Well gosh darn… wouldn’t that mean Clinton and Congress shouldn’t have been slashing the military and intel budgets in the 90s, and we’d have been better equipped… plus had better intel? But of course, to you, it’s Bush’s fault.
Careful… your next door neighbor farted. Must be that darn Bush’s fault again… da Bush Beans, of course.
Damn history challenged bozos are really getting on my nerves of late. Apologize for the terse temperment to the rest of you.
BTW, David… another of your deficient information points… the Mission Accomplished banner. It was requested by the crew of the USS Abraham Lincoln as their deployment – 290 days, longer than any other nuclear-powered aircraft carrier in history – had ended.
The White House complied, and had it made for them… they put it up. Their mission was accomplished.
Or perhaps you’d have the sailors busy making the banner themselves to appease their own request?
Idiots… we are surrounded by sound byte educated idiots.
Mata, I’d bet money that even if those idiot leftists read your post, it won’t change their thinking at all. That’s why I stopped trying to educate them and decided to give them a dose of their own venom. They certainly don’t like it.
David,please give us the following info: When you served and what unit you served with.
Otherwise, you’re a so-called “chickenhawk” and you need to SYFM.
Waiting…
I agree. Notice that David didn’t come back to defend his fly-bys. Merely to throw out new ones to detract from Bush honoring our troops by visiting them. And BTW to also address them, not just merely as a photo op like the last time Obama was in theater visiting.
Where’s your counter-post with Obama’s message to the troops from his visit, hmm? I’ve seen the one Wordsmith posted on another thread from this visit: http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/12/14/bush-makes-surprise-visit-to-iraq/#comment-141713
Oh that’s right, he ducked out on the hospital visit to play the “Rock Star” in Germany didn’t he? No such speech (tsk-tsk).
“Quid Pro Quo Clarisse (I mean David), Quid Pro Quo…”
I for one am quite happy to have had Dubya’s autograph on my discharge certificate rather than Clinton’s, Kerry’s, or Gore’s.
Hmm sounds sorta’ like the cliche’ from Wizard of Oz don’t it?
“Clintons & Kerrys & Gores. Oh my! Clintons & Kerrys & Gores. Oh my! Clintons & Kerrys & Gores, Oh my! ARRGH!!”
Suddenly Obama supporters leap from the foliage and growl menacingly.
Sorry lost my mind for a bit there… Must have been the lingering Kool-aid vapors.
David (the coward) didn’t come back. Shocker…
David;
As for WRAMC; Congress sets up the funding for military spending and housekeeping, not the sitting President. And the sad shape of quality of life with military facilities is a direct result of budget cuts; unfunded mandates for military spending in Congressional districts through pork-barrel politics for things the military neither wants, nor needs.; mandatory draw-downs, base closures, and cross-training, etceteras.
Even if a base is closed, spending does not stop there. It cannot be turned immediately over to the private sector for development, they must be manned with skeleton crews, costly EPA requirements must be met to clean up the property to render the land to a near “pristine” ecological state. With some bases, particularly with former airfields, this is impossible to do. Much of the soil is contaminated by fuel and oil from decades of use. EPA requirements prevent such airfields from being turned over to become local airports. Flight-lines and runways would have to be torn up to get to the soil underneath and all must be packaged and sent off to hazardous waste sites. Replacement soil would then have to be purchased and spread.
Because of those costs, many bases will never be turned over to the private sector. Which means they must be partially manned into perpetuity. At least with our bases overseas, we don’t have to go through the EPA nightmare we do stateside because to most of those countries they see themselves as inheriting “state of the art facilities” compared to their own technological levels.
Add to the expenses such things as OPERATIONS: NORTHERN & SOUTHERN WATCH. Those were different from Desert Storm, Desert Shield, and the Liberation of Iraq, for which funds were provided. Congress did not allocate additional funds to the military complex to keep those operations going because there was no timetable for them to end. So our military had to expend funds from their existing budgets for them. Nor does Congress usually grant additional funds to the military in support of U.N. military ventures. The Clinton years were particularly costly to America’s military operations.
“rat- and cockroach-infested, with stained carpets, cheap mattresses, and black mold, with no heat and water reported by some soldiers at the facility”;
Such neglect did not suddenly appear during the last 8 years. Those problems have been accumulating since World War II. Many of the hangers and shops I worked in, dormitories I lived in, and base facilities I’ve used, date to as far back as the beginning of the Cold War, 1940′s and even before. Some structures are pretty much death-traps of asbestos insulation. Yet as Congress is so tight on the military budget, the process of replacing these structures is extremely slow.
Do you even know when WRAMC was constructed? You are talking about a single building out of over a hundred.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Reed_Hospital