Comments on: Bush Makes Surprise Visit to Iraq http://floppingaces.net/2008/12/14/bush-makes-surprise-visit-to-iraq/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=bush-makes-surprise-visit-to-iraq Sat, 26 May 2012 01:41:35 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Rocky_B http://floppingaces.net/2008/12/14/bush-makes-surprise-visit-to-iraq/comment-page-2/#comment-142891 Rocky_B Wed, 17 Dec 2008 05:32:38 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/?p=13700#comment-142891 Thanks Mata; I've been trying to copy and paste posts into a notebook file just in case something like that happens and take them out if they appear. Forget to do so before hitting send once in a while but did on that one so here it is: Hmm... Seems this reporter Muntazer al-Zaidi of </strong>Cairo<strong> based al- Baghdadiya television station has shown up as being the topic of news story before: http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L19159708.htm Was it just staged for a little publicity? Or was it real, yet when his captors realized who they had they let him go? A little background on his TV station. http://eyeraki.blogspot.com/2007/01/al-baghdadiya_15.html The station is part of the liberal Worldwide Press Freedom Organization and Reporters Without Borders, both agencies are viewed with some suspicion and even contempt by Iraqi officials and other regional government officials. Here's a typical media take on Reporters Without Borders (http://www.roastfrog.net/?p=258): </blockquote> Reporters Without Borders is an international organisation which defends press freedom around the world, partly through activism and partly through collecting the type of information designed to embarrass people and governments. <blockquote> In other words, these media types just love to spin a story. They pander to dissidents by insulting government officials then crying foul on freedom of speech should they be arrested or brought in for questioning. If a border is closed by the government, they'll try to break through it. These reporters often hold a grudge against U.S. forces in Iraq because some of their members have been detained upon occasion and accused of collaborating with insurgents. They have often been arrested by the Iraqi & Turkish governments and at times kidnapped by unknown factions. Yet since 2003, they tend to place the blame on the U.S. first.: http://www.pmw.c2o.org/2005/global4627.html http://www.ifex.org/es/content/view/full/72174 http://www.menassat.com/?q=en/alerts/2868-iraq-hawlati-editor-released-bail-five-journalists-brave-travel-ban http://www.lobbyforcyprus.org/press/press2004/rsf_161204_turkeypress.htm Basically you could classify them as an organization of world-wide media reporters who view ALL governments with the same disdain that William Ayers does ours.

Thanks Mata;
I’ve been trying to copy and paste posts into a notebook file just in case something like that happens and take them out if they appear. Forget to do so before hitting send once in a while but did on that one so here it is:

Hmm… Seems this reporter Muntazer al-Zaidi of Cairo based al- Baghdadiya television station has shown up as being the topic of news story before:

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L19159708.htm

Was it just staged for a little publicity? Or was it real, yet when his captors realized who they had they let him go? A little background on his TV station.
http://eyeraki.blogspot.com/2007/01/al-baghdadiya_15.html

The station is part of the liberal Worldwide Press Freedom Organization and Reporters Without Borders, both agencies are viewed with some suspicion and even contempt by Iraqi officials and other regional government officials. Here’s a typical media take on Reporters Without Borders (http://www.roastfrog.net/?p=258):

Reporters Without Borders is an international organisation which defends press freedom around the world, partly through activism and partly through collecting the type of information designed to embarrass people and governments.

In other words, these media types just love to spin a story. They pander to dissidents by insulting government officials then crying foul on freedom of speech should they be arrested or brought in for questioning. If a border is closed by the government, they’ll try to break through it. These reporters often hold a grudge against U.S. forces in Iraq because some of their members have been detained upon occasion and accused of collaborating with insurgents. They have often been arrested by the Iraqi & Turkish governments and at times kidnapped by unknown factions. Yet since 2003, they tend to place the blame on the U.S. first.:

http://www.pmw.c2o.org/2005/global4627.html
http://www.ifex.org/es/content/view/full/72174
http://www.menassat.com/?q=en/alerts/2868-iraq-hawlati-editor-released-bail-five-journalists-brave-travel-ban
http://www.lobbyforcyprus.org/press/press2004/rsf_161204_turkeypress.htm

Basically you could classify them as an organization of world-wide media reporters who view ALL governments with the same disdain that William Ayers does ours.

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]]> By: MataHarley http://floppingaces.net/2008/12/14/bush-makes-surprise-visit-to-iraq/comment-page-2/#comment-142847 MataHarley Tue, 16 Dec 2008 23:05:06 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/?p=13700#comment-142847 OWWWW! Got hit by that flying pun! :0) Good shot, Wordsmith. Yeah, I saw the <a href="http://www.nypost.com/seven/12162008/postopinion/opedcolumnists/the_shoe_nuf_truth_144409.htm" rel="nofollow"><b>Ralph Peters bit in the NY Post today.</b></a> You forgot to provide the link, so I did it here after the fact for others to enjoy.

OWWWW! Got hit by that flying pun! :0) Good shot, Wordsmith.

Yeah, I saw the Ralph Peters bit in the NY Post today. You forgot to provide the link, so I did it here after the fact for others to enjoy.

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]]> By: Wordsmith http://floppingaces.net/2008/12/14/bush-makes-surprise-visit-to-iraq/comment-page-2/#comment-142844 Wordsmith Tue, 16 Dec 2008 22:51:57 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/?p=13700#comment-142844 @<a href="#comment-142696" rel="nofollow">MataHarley</a>: <blockquote>As I said, all standards that make him a “shoe in for MSNBC”. Perhaps Olbermeister is looking for a sidekick?</blockquote>Maybe...only if Al-Baghdadia channel gives him the boot. ;)

@MataHarley:

As I said, all standards that make him a “shoe in for MSNBC”. Perhaps Olbermeister is looking for a sidekick?

Maybe…only if Al-Baghdadia channel gives him the boot. ;)

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]]> By: Wordsmith http://floppingaces.net/2008/12/14/bush-makes-surprise-visit-to-iraq/comment-page-2/#comment-142841 Wordsmith Tue, 16 Dec 2008 22:36:28 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/?p=13700#comment-142841 @<a href="#comment-142696" rel="nofollow">MataHarley</a>: <blockquote>Word, thanks for the article on Iraqi “man on the street” comments. At least seven of them agree with me that the journalist was unprofessional, and an insult to the ideals of the profession.</blockquote> Here's a great piece by Ralph Peters, Mata. I think it's spot on.....plus, gotta love more puns.

@MataHarley:

Word, thanks for the article on Iraqi “man on the street” comments. At least seven of them agree with me that the journalist was unprofessional, and an insult to the ideals of the profession.

Here’s a great piece by Ralph Peters, Mata. I think it’s spot on…..plus, gotta love more puns.

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]]> By: Mike's America http://floppingaces.net/2008/12/14/bush-makes-surprise-visit-to-iraq/comment-page-2/#comment-142840 Mike's America Tue, 16 Dec 2008 22:24:08 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/?p=13700#comment-142840 Good one Tony... Especially since the guy is probably working for the Iranians. But if Bush had said that the lefties would be saying he was being needlessly provocative!

Good one Tony…

Especially since the guy is probably working for the Iranians.

But if Bush had said that the lefties would be saying he was being needlessly provocative!

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]]> By: Tony http://floppingaces.net/2008/12/14/bush-makes-surprise-visit-to-iraq/comment-page-2/#comment-142828 Tony Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:45:46 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/?p=13700#comment-142828 What Bush should have done is laughed at the guy and said: "You throw like an Iranian". :)

What Bush should have done is laughed at the guy and said: “You throw like an Iranian”. :)

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]]> By: MataHarley http://floppingaces.net/2008/12/14/bush-makes-surprise-visit-to-iraq/comment-page-2/#comment-142696 MataHarley Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:05:40 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/?p=13700#comment-142696 Hey Rocky B. Just tapped in, and whenever I'm online, I try to monitor the spam and moderation filters. There was 397 in there. Took a while to go thru the 20 pages of spam and did pull a couple of yours out, and one from Ms. Warp'ed (always have to bail her out... and I do wonder why I bother sometimes... :0) I don't know if you got caught in a batch someone may have dumped en masse. Takes a while to go thru them, and the spam has been exceptionally heavy of late. My suggestion is to keep a cyber "post it" handy on your desk top. If your comment disappears, and you can't seem to get it posted, at least you'll have a copy to try again. And change some of the wording in it so it doesn't view it the same. That has sometimes worked before. But sorry if it disappeared into the cyber black hole of posts... <b><center><font size=3>~~~</b></center></font> Word, thanks for the article on Iraqi "man on the street" comments. At least seven of them agree with me that the journalist was unprofessional, and an insult to the ideals of the profession. As I said, all standards that make him a "shoe in for MSNBC". Perhaps Olbermeister is looking for a sidekick?

Hey Rocky B. Just tapped in, and whenever I’m online, I try to monitor the spam and moderation filters. There was 397 in there. Took a while to go thru the 20 pages of spam and did pull a couple of yours out, and one from Ms. Warp’ed (always have to bail her out… and I do wonder why I bother sometimes… :0)

I don’t know if you got caught in a batch someone may have dumped en masse. Takes a while to go thru them, and the spam has been exceptionally heavy of late. My suggestion is to keep a cyber “post it” handy on your desk top. If your comment disappears, and you can’t seem to get it posted, at least you’ll have a copy to try again. And change some of the wording in it so it doesn’t view it the same. That has sometimes worked before.

But sorry if it disappeared into the cyber black hole of posts…

~~~

Word, thanks for the article on Iraqi “man on the street” comments. At least seven of them agree with me that the journalist was unprofessional, and an insult to the ideals of the profession. As I said, all standards that make him a “shoe in for MSNBC”. Perhaps Olbermeister is looking for a sidekick?

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]]> By: Rocky_B http://floppingaces.net/2008/12/14/bush-makes-surprise-visit-to-iraq/comment-page-2/#comment-142304 Rocky_B Tue, 16 Dec 2008 09:55:03 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/?p=13700#comment-142304 Hmm. I think my post on this from yesterday giving a little more info on this particular reporter and his associations might have ended up in the spam filter: http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/12/14/bush-makes-surprise-visit-to-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-141325 Could somebody check on it for me? THX

Hmm. I think my post on this from yesterday giving a little more info on this particular reporter and his associations might have ended up in the spam filter:
http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/12/14/bush-makes-surprise-visit-to-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-141325
Could somebody check on it for me? THX

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]]> By: sigmundringeck http://floppingaces.net/2008/12/14/bush-makes-surprise-visit-to-iraq/comment-page-2/#comment-142290 sigmundringeck Tue, 16 Dec 2008 09:33:35 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/?p=13700#comment-142290 Yes, I agree Waco was a disgrace. It's disgusting that there was no effective inquiry or investigation into this criminal genocide.

Yes, I agree Waco was a disgrace.
It’s disgusting that there was no effective inquiry or investigation into this criminal genocide.

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]]> By: sigmundringeck http://floppingaces.net/2008/12/14/bush-makes-surprise-visit-to-iraq/comment-page-2/#comment-142289 sigmundringeck Tue, 16 Dec 2008 09:29:52 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/?p=13700#comment-142289 Going back to the silly-ass reporter, his idea was obviously to get photos of Bush being HIT by the shoes, then capture Bush's humiliating facial expression or crouch that will stay in western photographic media for all time. Like Saddam being hung on video or looking like a beggar when he was caught. BUT the reporter TOTALLY FAILED due to Bush's quick reactions and physical coordination. All we can see is Bush CALMLY dodging the shoes and never taking his eye of the reporter. We never see Bush's left hand, he might have been thinking of going for his firearm(I think ankle holster). Only, it turned out to be just shoes. Everyone in the media is saying, "good duck", even those who hate Bush. The reporter wasn't expresssing anger, he was mainly trying to HUMILIATE Bush and have it captured on media for posterity. HE FAILED. SAD STORY. He is lucky Bush did not CATCH the shoes and THROW them BACK at him. Come on, this reporter is a coward. Do we think he would have the guts to throw shoes at Saddam and his sons????. He would be forced to eat shoes until he bursts. But when there is freedom and democracy in Iraq, then he throws shoes. Silly no-balls Ass. Anyway, Bush has cemented his legacy as the leader of the liberation in Iraq. Obama won't even come close to that. In any case if shoes are thrown at Obie, he can just open his mouth and the shoes will vanish into it.

Going back to the silly-ass reporter, his idea was obviously to get photos of Bush being HIT by the shoes, then capture Bush’s humiliating facial expression or crouch that will stay in western photographic media for all time. Like Saddam being hung on video or looking like a beggar when he was caught.

BUT the reporter TOTALLY FAILED due to Bush’s quick reactions and physical coordination. All we can see is Bush CALMLY dodging the shoes and never taking his eye of the reporter. We never see Bush’s left hand, he might have been thinking of going for his firearm(I think ankle holster). Only, it turned out to be just shoes. Everyone in the media is saying, “good duck”, even those who hate Bush.

The reporter wasn’t expresssing anger, he was mainly trying to HUMILIATE Bush and have it captured on media for posterity. HE FAILED. SAD STORY.

He is lucky Bush did not CATCH the shoes and THROW them BACK at him.

Come on, this reporter is a coward. Do we think he would have the guts to throw shoes at Saddam and his sons????. He would be forced to eat shoes until he bursts. But when there is freedom and democracy in Iraq, then he throws shoes. Silly no-balls Ass.

Anyway, Bush has cemented his legacy as the leader of the liberation in Iraq. Obama won’t even come close to that. In any case if shoes are thrown at Obie, he can just open his mouth and the shoes will vanish into it.

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