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		<title>By: Obama, worst president ever? - Page 5</title>
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		<dc:creator>Obama, worst president ever? - Page 5</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2010 14:51:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 06:16:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like all he needs is another H****r to show up, and try to take over the world pinky!!! Hehe</description>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/12/06/obamas-describes-his-new-deal-program/#comment-137869</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 23:47:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vegetarian,

Wow!   I am impressed by your knowledge of economics.    You are so right.   Keynesian Economic does not work.    This country would need Milton Friedman&#039;s economic in this time of crisis.    I am also disgusted by his &quot;team of economic charlatans and amateurs&quot;.  

But Obama will use the Keynesian doctrine to destabilize this nation so he can turned it to a communist country after the whole economy will be ruined for decades.    The &quot;Big Brother&quot; government will take America within.    America will no longer be.   Bingo!    Obama will go thru History and be even more famous than Hitler.   He will have accomplished his goal and his ego will be satisfied.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Vegetarian,</p>
<p>Wow!   I am impressed by your knowledge of economics.    You are so right.   Keynesian Economic does not work.    This country would need Milton Friedman&#8217;s economic in this time of crisis.    I am also disgusted by his &#8220;team of economic charlatans and amateurs&#8221;.  </p>
<p>But Obama will use the Keynesian doctrine to destabilize this nation so he can turned it to a communist country after the whole economy will be ruined for decades.    The &#8220;Big Brother&#8221; government will take America within.    America will no longer be.   Bingo!    Obama will go thru History and be even more famous than Hitler.   He will have accomplished his goal and his ego will be satisfied.</p>
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		<title>By: Vegetarian</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/12/06/obamas-describes-his-new-deal-program/#comment-137762</link>
		<dc:creator>Vegetarian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 17:45:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama is using the excuse of some massive economic catastrophe to push through his Socialist agenda ex-post-haste. The buffoonery begins on January 20th, but the damage will last for decades.

The left is shrieking that there is a huge economic fire gutting our economy, and their solution is the old tried-and-failed Keynsian Economic Firefighting Kit which contains gasoline, coal, firewood and kerosene and they are rushing into action to douse the flames of this little blaze. Their results will be to turn this into a 4-alarm conflagration - precisely the results achieved by FDR, which is how he managed to turn a stock market crash and small recession into a depression that lasted throughout his Presidency and right up until it was cured by Adolf Hitler.

Get ready for &quot;The Great Depression II&quot;. If the Obammunists are blindly mimicking the actions and disastrous programs of their clueless hero, FDR - the cheif architect of the last Great Depression; we can expect similar results this time around.

The sheeple were scared by the press, and they think someone needs to &quot;do something&quot;. According to the BLS, unemployment rates are on the order of 6% - the lowest they ever got under Roosevelt were still over 10%, and every time the began going down, FDR would do something to screw it all up again. Socialism and Neo-Keynsian &#039;solutions&#039; have never worked before and will not work now. As long as the press beats the drum of King Tarzan and his Neo-Keynsian minions and continue fawning over the Obamanistas as if they are the saviours of the American Dream, we will not climb out of this little slump, and the actions of these empirics will be to plunge us into a very deep depression.

The dogs of war will probably end up leading us out of this one too, except it will be a lot messier this time around.

Seeing the mindless haste that this team of economic charlatans and amateurs is employing in their wasteful, uninformed, quixotic attempt to attack the recession - while surreptitiously erecting their economically illiterate Socialist agenda -  one almost has the feeling that Obama&#039;s attempt at being FDR II will instead mimic the trajectory and untergang of Salvador Allende.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Obama is using the excuse of some massive economic catastrophe to push through his Socialist agenda ex-post-haste. The buffoonery begins on January 20th, but the damage will last for decades.</p>
<p>The left is shrieking that there is a huge economic fire gutting our economy, and their solution is the old tried-and-failed Keynsian Economic Firefighting Kit which contains gasoline, coal, firewood and kerosene and they are rushing into action to douse the flames of this little blaze. Their results will be to turn this into a 4-alarm conflagration &#8211; precisely the results achieved by FDR, which is how he managed to turn a stock market crash and small recession into a depression that lasted throughout his Presidency and right up until it was cured by Adolf Hitler.</p>
<p>Get ready for &#8220;The Great Depression II&#8221;. If the Obammunists are blindly mimicking the actions and disastrous programs of their clueless hero, FDR &#8211; the cheif architect of the last Great Depression; we can expect similar results this time around.</p>
<p>The sheeple were scared by the press, and they think someone needs to &#8220;do something&#8221;. According to the BLS, unemployment rates are on the order of 6% &#8211; the lowest they ever got under Roosevelt were still over 10%, and every time the began going down, FDR would do something to screw it all up again. Socialism and Neo-Keynsian &#8216;solutions&#8217; have never worked before and will not work now. As long as the press beats the drum of King Tarzan and his Neo-Keynsian minions and continue fawning over the Obamanistas as if they are the saviours of the American Dream, we will not climb out of this little slump, and the actions of these empirics will be to plunge us into a very deep depression.</p>
<p>The dogs of war will probably end up leading us out of this one too, except it will be a lot messier this time around.</p>
<p>Seeing the mindless haste that this team of economic charlatans and amateurs is employing in their wasteful, uninformed, quixotic attempt to attack the recession &#8211; while surreptitiously erecting their economically illiterate Socialist agenda &#8211;  one almost has the feeling that Obama&#8217;s attempt at being FDR II will instead mimic the trajectory and untergang of Salvador Allende.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/12/06/obamas-describes-his-new-deal-program/#comment-137664</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 08:52:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Very depressing&quot; (Sigmundringeck)

Yeap!   But leftist Americans and specially Obamatons does not realize that.   It scares the shit out of me, since they are my neigbors.   Bezmenov explains it so well specially in Part 2.    Like he says: No matter what you tell them, facts, proofs, reality, the will not believe you, they are in complete denial and in adoration with THE ONE.    

It doesn&#039;t matter how much educated they are, the longer they stay in college, the more they become indoctrinated.   It is useless to discuss with them.    Between you and me Sigmund, I think America is toasted, done, finish.   I hate to look like a pessimist but in fact I am realistic.   If Obama is not stop before he reaches the White House... bye, bye America.   It is sad but they won&#039;t listen, what can we do?   It is a lost case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>&#8220;Very depressing&#8221; (Sigmundringeck)</p>
<p>Yeap!   But leftist Americans and specially Obamatons does not realize that.   It scares the shit out of me, since they are my neigbors.   Bezmenov explains it so well specially in Part 2.    Like he says: No matter what you tell them, facts, proofs, reality, the will not believe you, they are in complete denial and in adoration with THE ONE.    </p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t matter how much educated they are, the longer they stay in college, the more they become indoctrinated.   It is useless to discuss with them.    Between you and me Sigmund, I think America is toasted, done, finish.   I hate to look like a pessimist but in fact I am realistic.   If Obama is not stop before he reaches the White House&#8230; bye, bye America.   It is sad but they won&#8217;t listen, what can we do?   It is a lost case.</p>
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		<title>By: sigmundringeck</title>
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		<dc:creator>sigmundringeck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 08:21:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What to do? It&#039;s the time that americans want to experiment with Marxism and Socialism, brought to you all not by the Soviets/Russians or the Chinese but from within, by this marxist radical snake Obama.

Of all the US presidents, none makes me more wary than Obama. He is truly like the snake you invite into your home, then it bites your baby when you are sleeping. Then you scream at the snake, &quot;Have you no gratitude??? Why did you do it???&quot;
And the snake replies, &quot;Sorry, but I am a snake, this is my nature.&quot;

All great empires fall from the rot within, Obama is the rot.

Without the US as the leader in soft and hard power promoting democracy, freedom and human rights, any place else will more easily go under into the swamp of totalitarianism once the big boss starts to fall.

We need the US to be the beacon or light. Obama is slowly turning the light out, and will do even worse later, for sure. Very depressing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>What to do? It&#8217;s the time that americans want to experiment with Marxism and Socialism, brought to you all not by the Soviets/Russians or the Chinese but from within, by this marxist radical snake Obama.</p>
<p>Of all the US presidents, none makes me more wary than Obama. He is truly like the snake you invite into your home, then it bites your baby when you are sleeping. Then you scream at the snake, &#8220;Have you no gratitude??? Why did you do it???&#8221;<br />
And the snake replies, &#8220;Sorry, but I am a snake, this is my nature.&#8221;</p>
<p>All great empires fall from the rot within, Obama is the rot.</p>
<p>Without the US as the leader in soft and hard power promoting democracy, freedom and human rights, any place else will more easily go under into the swamp of totalitarianism once the big boss starts to fall.</p>
<p>We need the US to be the beacon or light. Obama is slowly turning the light out, and will do even worse later, for sure. Very depressing.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 07:13:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sigmundringeck, if you&#039;ve enjoyed the video that I have posted with BEZMENOV in my previous post, it is only Part 1 of 9.    You can listen to all of them.    This is a fantastic serie.

Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIFcnctnHsE&amp;NR=1</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Sigmundringeck, if you&#8217;ve enjoyed the video that I have posted with BEZMENOV in my previous post, it is only Part 1 of 9.    You can listen to all of them.    This is a fantastic serie.</p>
<p>Part 2<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIFcnctnHsE&#038;NR=1" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIFcnctnHsE&#038;NR=1</a></p>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 06:57:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sigmundringeck,

I think you will enjoy this video that I have presented on this site a while ago.   It explains what is happening in America and why Obamatons were so easily fooled.   They are the utile idiots to establish communism.   He explains the demoralization and destabilization process before it can be done. 

Ex-KGB Uri Bezmenov On Ideological Indoctrination - Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlkPkJInUmU&amp;feature=related</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>sigmundringeck,</p>
<p>I think you will enjoy this video that I have presented on this site a while ago.   It explains what is happening in America and why Obamatons were so easily fooled.   They are the utile idiots to establish communism.   He explains the demoralization and destabilization process before it can be done. </p>
<p>Ex-KGB Uri Bezmenov On Ideological Indoctrination &#8211; Part 1<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlkPkJInUmU&#038;feature=related" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlkPkJInUmU&#038;feature=related</a></p>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 06:37:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This financial crisis was orchestrated purposely by the Democrat Party as far back as the Carter&#039;s years.    This is how you get to change a country to socialism, Marxism or communism.    First you get the children to learn from leftist teachers for a decade or two, then you ruin the economy, then you bail out everyone on borrowed money and put the load on the tax payer&#039;s shoulders and they get demoralize.    After that, it is just a child game to destroy capitalism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>This financial crisis was orchestrated purposely by the Democrat Party as far back as the Carter&#8217;s years.    This is how you get to change a country to socialism, Marxism or communism.    First you get the children to learn from leftist teachers for a decade or two, then you ruin the economy, then you bail out everyone on borrowed money and put the load on the tax payer&#8217;s shoulders and they get demoralize.    After that, it is just a child game to destroy capitalism.</p>
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		<title>By: sigmundringeck</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/12/06/obamas-describes-his-new-deal-program/#comment-137603</link>
		<dc:creator>sigmundringeck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 06:20:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Despite the future problems, in the short to medium term, this massive spending program will create a kind of &quot;False Summer&quot;. 

The problem is that Obama is going to put the US even deeper into debt, and this will eventually result in the dollar losing more of its value next round(recently it strengthened when funds ran out of foreign high-yielding currencies back to the dollar when interest rates dropped worldwide). It might even get harder for the US to borrow money sometime down the road, we&#039;ll have to see. I am not sure how that will translate to interest rates on treasuries.

If Obama makes sure that lousy businesses, industries and companies are allowed to go into structured bankruptcy or taken over and REAL CHANGE happens in the economy, with competent businesses taking over bad ones, then, it&#039;s possible that this pickup in demand from the spending plan may sustain for the long run. He also needs to later bring down borrowings when he can, or at least show some sign that he is serious about this.

Unfortunately, he is a typical crook and big spender(of borrowed money), nothing will change, and he is not going bring borrowings down. He is the One Billion Dollar earmarkmark man, right??? 

I am not against the spending program, but it needs to be backed up by the measures above, or else after that false summer, the same basic problems will persist, and exacerbate the next decline.

Looking at Japan, they did the same massive spending thing and their stockmarket has been like one quarter of its former high for the last 15+ years. But they did save jobs and alleviate the recession in their economy. These are fondly called the &quot;zombie years&quot; of the japanese economy. However, they did it with mostly their own money, while the US is going to do it with borrowed or extra printed money.

With zombie banks and companies bailed out, toxic assets and balance sheets remaining and nothing changed , Japanese companies have been basically non-performers for 15 years. But jobs were saved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Despite the future problems, in the short to medium term, this massive spending program will create a kind of &#8220;False Summer&#8221;. </p>
<p>The problem is that Obama is going to put the US even deeper into debt, and this will eventually result in the dollar losing more of its value next round(recently it strengthened when funds ran out of foreign high-yielding currencies back to the dollar when interest rates dropped worldwide). It might even get harder for the US to borrow money sometime down the road, we&#8217;ll have to see. I am not sure how that will translate to interest rates on treasuries.</p>
<p>If Obama makes sure that lousy businesses, industries and companies are allowed to go into structured bankruptcy or taken over and REAL CHANGE happens in the economy, with competent businesses taking over bad ones, then, it&#8217;s possible that this pickup in demand from the spending plan may sustain for the long run. He also needs to later bring down borrowings when he can, or at least show some sign that he is serious about this.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, he is a typical crook and big spender(of borrowed money), nothing will change, and he is not going bring borrowings down. He is the One Billion Dollar earmarkmark man, right??? </p>
<p>I am not against the spending program, but it needs to be backed up by the measures above, or else after that false summer, the same basic problems will persist, and exacerbate the next decline.</p>
<p>Looking at Japan, they did the same massive spending thing and their stockmarket has been like one quarter of its former high for the last 15+ years. But they did save jobs and alleviate the recession in their economy. These are fondly called the &#8220;zombie years&#8221; of the japanese economy. However, they did it with mostly their own money, while the US is going to do it with borrowed or extra printed money.</p>
<p>With zombie banks and companies bailed out, toxic assets and balance sheets remaining and nothing changed , Japanese companies have been basically non-performers for 15 years. But jobs were saved.</p>
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