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	<title>Comments on: Congressional Dems Worrying/Split About Pelosi and 2009 Agenda</title>
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		<title>By: ditto</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/12/03/congressional-dems-worryingsplit-about-pelosi-and-2009-agenda/#comment-135834</link>
		<dc:creator>ditto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 10:40:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have insufficient information, so we must ask Pelosi: &quot;From the center of ...What?&quot;

*From the center of the earth?
*From the center of our beings?
*From the center of the far left?
*From the center of Wall street?
*From the center of Red Square?
*From the center of the universe?
*From the center of the United Nations?
*From the center of the Bilderburg Hotel?
*From the center of a tootsie-roll-pop?
*From the center of a doughnut?
*From the center of the moon?
*From the cream filled center?
*From the center of Oz?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>We have insufficient information, so we must ask Pelosi: &#8220;From the center of &#8230;What?&#8221;</p>
<p>*From the center of the earth?<br />
*From the center of our beings?<br />
*From the center of the far left?<br />
*From the center of Wall street?<br />
*From the center of Red Square?<br />
*From the center of the universe?<br />
*From the center of the United Nations?<br />
*From the center of the Bilderburg Hotel?<br />
*From the center of a tootsie-roll-pop?<br />
*From the center of a doughnut?<br />
*From the center of the moon?<br />
*From the cream filled center?<br />
*From the center of Oz?</p>
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		<title>By: Hard Right</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/12/03/congressional-dems-worryingsplit-about-pelosi-and-2009-agenda/#comment-135665</link>
		<dc:creator>Hard Right</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 14:45:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RW, they thought he was just saying that to get elected. They thought he&#039;d lead from the far left and expected the dems in Congress to do the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>RW, they thought he was just saying that to get elected. They thought he&#8217;d lead from the far left and expected the dems in Congress to do the same.</p>
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		<title>By: road warrior</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/12/03/congressional-dems-worryingsplit-about-pelosi-and-2009-agenda/#comment-135609</link>
		<dc:creator>road warrior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 06:12:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t understand what they are worried about. It leading from the middle some of the same promises that we received from Obama? I mean the liberal illuminati have promised time and time again that Obama would cross party lines and be bipartisan. Is this any different than leading from the middle? Or am i misunderstanding what&#039;s going here?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>I don&#8217;t understand what they are worried about. It leading from the middle some of the same promises that we received from Obama? I mean the liberal illuminati have promised time and time again that Obama would cross party lines and be bipartisan. Is this any different than leading from the middle? Or am i misunderstanding what&#8217;s going here?</p>
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		<title>By: Hard Right</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/12/03/congressional-dems-worryingsplit-about-pelosi-and-2009-agenda/#comment-135590</link>
		<dc:creator>Hard Right</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 03:56:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Popcorn, heh. Scrap, GMTA.

I&#039;m tempted to dig a hole in my backyard...and keep digging. Anyone want to bet nuclear fallout shelters will make something of a comeback?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Popcorn, heh. Scrap, GMTA.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m tempted to dig a hole in my backyard&#8230;and keep digging. Anyone want to bet nuclear fallout shelters will make something of a comeback?</p>
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		<title>By: Scrapiron</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/12/03/congressional-dems-worryingsplit-about-pelosi-and-2009-agenda/#comment-135565</link>
		<dc:creator>Scrapiron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 01:32:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I clicked (dialup) on the blog and went to  put a bag of Gourmet popcorn in the microwave and then I read the popcorn comments. 

All I see so far is the empty suit putting in a third Clinton term. We now have postive proof of the empty suit description. Hussein O won&#039;t answer the reporters questions because he doesn&#039;t know the answer to anything without a teleprompter. He is a great speaker of the written word but not so fast on this feet when he has to come up with an answer to a question that he was not prepared for. Joe the Plumber proved that. It&#039;s going to be a fun but disasterous four years. Actually in 12 months the terrorists can pull off the predicted WMD attack killing hundreds of thousands in any big city USA, call a cab, go to the airport and book a flight with no questions other than &#039;how many bags do you have&#039;. All intel programs will be dead by then and accidential discovery will be prevented by another &#039;Gorlick&#039; wall.

This old mountain boy has been around the world, lived in several states and countries,  but will now stay in the mountains.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>I clicked (dialup) on the blog and went to  put a bag of Gourmet popcorn in the microwave and then I read the popcorn comments. </p>
<p>All I see so far is the empty suit putting in a third Clinton term. We now have postive proof of the empty suit description. Hussein O won&#8217;t answer the reporters questions because he doesn&#8217;t know the answer to anything without a teleprompter. He is a great speaker of the written word but not so fast on this feet when he has to come up with an answer to a question that he was not prepared for. Joe the Plumber proved that. It&#8217;s going to be a fun but disasterous four years. Actually in 12 months the terrorists can pull off the predicted WMD attack killing hundreds of thousands in any big city USA, call a cab, go to the airport and book a flight with no questions other than &#8216;how many bags do you have&#8217;. All intel programs will be dead by then and accidential discovery will be prevented by another &#8216;Gorlick&#8217; wall.</p>
<p>This old mountain boy has been around the world, lived in several states and countries,  but will now stay in the mountains.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/12/03/congressional-dems-worryingsplit-about-pelosi-and-2009-agenda/#comment-135560</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 00:21:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Craig, he&#039;s not a total idiot.  He&#039;s a very shrewd politician, AND he&#039;s a compelling speaker.  He&#039;s charismatic, and can market to demographics very well (President Bush&#039;s biggest shortfall).  

His staff is blinded by YEARS of partisan opposition for opposition&#039;s sake, and about to face a cold bucket of water as they take power and realize that most of Bush&#039;s policies have been policies of default rather than choice (hence the creep towards the right on foreign policy-soon to mimic the vaunted &quot;neocon&quot; claims we&#039;ve endured for years).

Congress is screwed because the economy IS in trouble, and they have to act or face the dual wrath of both big money corporate and union PACs as well as Joe Schmoes.  Isn&#039;t it interesting how we&#039;ve heard for years that trickle-down economics doesn&#039;t work, and now that Dems have the pursestrings...they&#039;re throwing hundreds of billions to the top of the economic pyramid hoping it will trickle down to help Joe Schmoe&#039;s at the bottom?

If it weren&#039;t for the real dangers we face from rogue regimes, terrorists, inflation, and job losses...I&#039;d be laughing my butt off!  Unfortunately, the Democratic Party and faux liberal reckoning comes with real consequences; real costs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Craig, he&#8217;s not a total idiot.  He&#8217;s a very shrewd politician, AND he&#8217;s a compelling speaker.  He&#8217;s charismatic, and can market to demographics very well (President Bush&#8217;s biggest shortfall).  </p>
<p>His staff is blinded by YEARS of partisan opposition for opposition&#8217;s sake, and about to face a cold bucket of water as they take power and realize that most of Bush&#8217;s policies have been policies of default rather than choice (hence the creep towards the right on foreign policy-soon to mimic the vaunted &#8220;neocon&#8221; claims we&#8217;ve endured for years).</p>
<p>Congress is screwed because the economy IS in trouble, and they have to act or face the dual wrath of both big money corporate and union PACs as well as Joe Schmoes.  Isn&#8217;t it interesting how we&#8217;ve heard for years that trickle-down economics doesn&#8217;t work, and now that Dems have the pursestrings&#8230;they&#8217;re throwing hundreds of billions to the top of the economic pyramid hoping it will trickle down to help Joe Schmoe&#8217;s at the bottom?</p>
<p>If it weren&#8217;t for the real dangers we face from rogue regimes, terrorists, inflation, and job losses&#8230;I&#8217;d be laughing my butt off!  Unfortunately, the Democratic Party and faux liberal reckoning comes with real consequences; real costs.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 23:54:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Larry, you still do not get it do you?   What Obama say and what Obama do are two different things.   He was talking extreme left, now he is talking Center, which means to me that he will not be governing at all, because Center has no program, no values and no goal.    But then again, since he is the biggest flip flopper of all time, his talking is worthless.   One day it will be extreme right if it makes him look good, the other day it might be extreme left for the same reasons.   Then it could be just Right or Left depending what it will do for his aura.   And someday it will be the Center... meaning he will be doing nothing, just like when he voted present.   Then the two extremes will come back and alternate and so will the Right and Left.   When no position will enhance his Glory... he will stand in an idle position from the center and do absolutely nothing.   Larry, this guy is a pure IDIOT.    There is nothing to be expected from him.    All he wants is the spot lights and he doesn&#039;t give a dam about this country at all and he only cares about himself.   And you keep gobbling is every words.   Remarkable!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Larry, you still do not get it do you?   What Obama say and what Obama do are two different things.   He was talking extreme left, now he is talking Center, which means to me that he will not be governing at all, because Center has no program, no values and no goal.    But then again, since he is the biggest flip flopper of all time, his talking is worthless.   One day it will be extreme right if it makes him look good, the other day it might be extreme left for the same reasons.   Then it could be just Right or Left depending what it will do for his aura.   And someday it will be the Center&#8230; meaning he will be doing nothing, just like when he voted present.   Then the two extremes will come back and alternate and so will the Right and Left.   When no position will enhance his Glory&#8230; he will stand in an idle position from the center and do absolutely nothing.   Larry, this guy is a pure IDIOT.    There is nothing to be expected from him.    All he wants is the spot lights and he doesn&#8217;t give a dam about this country at all and he only cares about himself.   And you keep gobbling is every words.   Remarkable!</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 23:29:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Larry, people voted for Democrats to Congress in 08 because by and large most Americans thought Democrats already controlled Congress/Democrats in Congress successfully and individually marketed themselves as not responsible (everything bad is Bush&#039;s fault and Republicans&#039; fault).

btw, Democrats controlled the Senate for the first 2 Bush yrs.  There were only 4:8 Bush years w Republicans holding both houses.
:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Larry, people voted for Democrats to Congress in 08 because by and large most Americans thought Democrats already controlled Congress/Democrats in Congress successfully and individually marketed themselves as not responsible (everything bad is Bush&#8217;s fault and Republicans&#8217; fault).</p>
<p>btw, Democrats controlled the Senate for the first 2 Bush yrs.  There were only 4:8 Bush years w Republicans holding both houses.<br />
 <img src='http://floppingaces.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Larry Weisenthal</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/12/03/congressional-dems-worryingsplit-about-pelosi-and-2009-agenda/#comment-135549</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry Weisenthal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 21:51:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very true: the last Congress had an approval rating of only about 15%.  And the Democrats controlled both branches of Congress.  So, when the election came to pass, the voters &quot;punished&quot; the Democrats by ... increasing their numbers by 20+ in the House and 7-8 in the Senate.  So what gives....?

Now there is conflict going on.  The Dems are shifting from being a loyal opposition in government to being in charge of government, the way the GOP was for the first 6 years of the Bush administration. How to govern?  Well, it is abundantly clear that Obama has no intention of being a &quot;socialist&quot; and is going to try and move as far to the right as he can get away with.  He&#039;s also signaled his intentions to the Congressional leadership, which is why lifetime Leftist Pelosi is now talking about &quot;governing from the center.&quot;

It is wonderful that the Dems won&#039;t have a filibuster-proof majority.  This will put the GOP Senators in the position of being the perhaps unwitting allies of Obama, as Obama will find it easier to do what he wants to do, which is to govern from the center or even, in some cases, from the center-right.  With too many Dems in the Senate, Obama would be continually presented with Leftist legislation that he&#039;d either have to veto (alienating the Leftist base) or preventing him from realizing his goal of being recognized as a Centrist President, thereby ensuring his re-election in 2012.

- Larry Weisenthal/Huntington Beach, CA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Very true: the last Congress had an approval rating of only about 15%.  And the Democrats controlled both branches of Congress.  So, when the election came to pass, the voters &#8220;punished&#8221; the Democrats by &#8230; increasing their numbers by 20+ in the House and 7-8 in the Senate.  So what gives&#8230;.?</p>
<p>Now there is conflict going on.  The Dems are shifting from being a loyal opposition in government to being in charge of government, the way the GOP was for the first 6 years of the Bush administration. How to govern?  Well, it is abundantly clear that Obama has no intention of being a &#8220;socialist&#8221; and is going to try and move as far to the right as he can get away with.  He&#8217;s also signaled his intentions to the Congressional leadership, which is why lifetime Leftist Pelosi is now talking about &#8220;governing from the center.&#8221;</p>
<p>It is wonderful that the Dems won&#8217;t have a filibuster-proof majority.  This will put the GOP Senators in the position of being the perhaps unwitting allies of Obama, as Obama will find it easier to do what he wants to do, which is to govern from the center or even, in some cases, from the center-right.  With too many Dems in the Senate, Obama would be continually presented with Leftist legislation that he&#8217;d either have to veto (alienating the Leftist base) or preventing him from realizing his goal of being recognized as a Centrist President, thereby ensuring his re-election in 2012.</p>
<p>- Larry Weisenthal/Huntington Beach, CA</p>
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		<title>By: SoCal Chris</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/12/03/congressional-dems-worryingsplit-about-pelosi-and-2009-agenda/#comment-135536</link>
		<dc:creator>SoCal Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 19:52:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She looks like she&#039;s trying to pass a gall stone.  Hmmph...just when I thought she was COMPLETELY vacuous.</description>
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