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	<title>Comments on: Taliban are &#8216;patriots,&#8217; says Pakistani Army official</title>
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		<title>By: Rocky_B</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/12/02/taliban-are-patriots-says-pakistani-army-official/comment-page-1/#comment-135440</link>
		<dc:creator>Rocky_B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 11:22:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Zardari doesn&#039;t put a leash on his own military and/or purge out the Taliban/al Qaeda sympathizers this promises to get real ugly and unpredictable real quick. Mumbai was to India as 9-11 was to the U.S.. I suspect Obama will be as ineffective a leader in this as he was in the Illinois state senate. Gaffemaster Biden will be no help, neither will Hillary as all three of them are doves on foreign affairs and about as useful as treating AIDS symptoms with placebo. 

We&#039;re quickly running out of time for Bush-Cheney-Rice to do anything to help diffuse this &amp; once they are out of office. I foresee very little practical application of America into this equation. There&#039;s also no use looking to the U.N. for any real solution. All they&#039;ve done is condemn the terrorist attacks in Mumbai. Big Whoop:
http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=76707&amp;sectionid=351020402

I can see India doing a lockdown on it&#039;s border, but not sure if India would use it&#039;s new Agni III ballistic nukes (see: http://www.monstersandcritics.com/news/india/news/article_1290474.php), but there are a few sticky areas here. If you&#039;re India, what would you target? With only a 3,000 klick range to work with, do you go for the terrorist camps in the north? That could endanger American &amp; NATO forces along the border. Military targets, since the terrorist are being supported by a faction of people within the military? I don&#039;t see them targeting the capitol as Zardari is certainly not condoning the terrorist actions, so that would be counter-productive. If India launches a nuke, would Pakistan or China respond (http://www.fas.org/blog/ssp/2008/05/extensive-nuclear-deployment-area-discovered-in-central-china.php)? 

From a sovereignty/War on Terrorism aspect, since certain members of the Pakistani military/intelligence community have actual come out supporting these terrorists, despite Zardari &amp; His minister&#039;s position, an argument could be made that these terrorists were state supported and/or harbored by Pakistan. I don&#039;t have any idea off the cuff what this event might leading to in regards to responses.

Hey sigmundringeck:
If you&#039;re following this thread, hopefully you can take the pulse there in China and give us some insight on how this issue is perceived there. Does China have an official reaction to all this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>If Zardari doesn&#8217;t put a leash on his own military and/or purge out the Taliban/al Qaeda sympathizers this promises to get real ugly and unpredictable real quick. Mumbai was to India as 9-11 was to the U.S.. I suspect Obama will be as ineffective a leader in this as he was in the Illinois state senate. Gaffemaster Biden will be no help, neither will Hillary as all three of them are doves on foreign affairs and about as useful as treating AIDS symptoms with placebo. </p>
<p>We&#8217;re quickly running out of time for Bush-Cheney-Rice to do anything to help diffuse this &amp; once they are out of office. I foresee very little practical application of America into this equation. There&#8217;s also no use looking to the U.N. for any real solution. All they&#8217;ve done is condemn the terrorist attacks in Mumbai. Big Whoop:<br />
<a href="http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=76707&#038;sectionid=351020402" rel="nofollow">http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=76707&#038;sectionid=351020402</a></p>
<p>I can see India doing a lockdown on it&#8217;s border, but not sure if India would use it&#8217;s new Agni III ballistic nukes (see: <a href="http://www.monstersandcritics.com/news/india/news/article_1290474.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.monstersandcritics.com/news/india/news/article_1290474.php</a>), but there are a few sticky areas here. If you&#8217;re India, what would you target? With only a 3,000 klick range to work with, do you go for the terrorist camps in the north? That could endanger American &amp; NATO forces along the border. Military targets, since the terrorist are being supported by a faction of people within the military? I don&#8217;t see them targeting the capitol as Zardari is certainly not condoning the terrorist actions, so that would be counter-productive. If India launches a nuke, would Pakistan or China respond (<a href="http://www.fas.org/blog/ssp/2008/05/extensive-nuclear-deployment-area-discovered-in-central-china.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.fas.org/blog/ssp/2008/05/extensive-nuclear-deployment-area-discovered-in-central-china.php</a>)? </p>
<p>From a sovereignty/War on Terrorism aspect, since certain members of the Pakistani military/intelligence community have actual come out supporting these terrorists, despite Zardari &amp; His minister&#8217;s position, an argument could be made that these terrorists were state supported and/or harbored by Pakistan. I don&#8217;t have any idea off the cuff what this event might leading to in regards to responses.</p>
<p>Hey sigmundringeck:<br />
If you&#8217;re following this thread, hopefully you can take the pulse there in China and give us some insight on how this issue is perceived there. Does China have an official reaction to all this?</p>
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		<title>By: Gregory Dittman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gregory Dittman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 06:33:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s just not 10 guys though.  Hindu temples and the people in or around them in India are frequently attacked by guys coming from Pakistan.</description>
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		<title>By: blast</title>
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		<dc:creator>blast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 14:31:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So if India does attack Pakistan...

would it be more likely that they would use the following to support their actions

The US national policy (the Bush Doctrine) calls for preemptive strikes
or 
that the USA is already bombing inside Pakistan to get at terrorists 
or
would they just state the obvious... that &lt;strong&gt;all sovereign nations have the right to self defense&lt;strong&gt;.  Israel does this every day. 
or
Obama says its ok.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>So if India does attack Pakistan&#8230;</p>
<p>would it be more likely that they would use the following to support their actions</p>
<p>The US national policy (the Bush Doctrine) calls for preemptive strikes<br />
or<br />
that the USA is already bombing inside Pakistan to get at terrorists<br />
or<br />
would they just state the obvious&#8230; that <strong>all sovereign nations have the right to self defense</strong><strong>.  Israel does this every day.<br />
or<br />
Obama says its ok.</strong></p>
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