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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/12/01/obama-gives-india-ok-to-attack-pakistan/comment-page-1/#comment-137864</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 23:28:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brilliant comment troll [ie &quot;your bias is showing&quot;].  If Pakistan is not a US ally, and Pakistan is such a threat...then what should the US do to stop Pakistan?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Brilliant comment troll [ie "your bias is showing"].  If Pakistan is not a US ally, and Pakistan is such a threat&#8230;then what should the US do to stop Pakistan?</p>
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		<title>By: your bias is showing</title>
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		<dc:creator>your bias is showing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 23:20:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>President-Elect Obama said nothing of the sort, you have taken what you wanted from his statement. He said he believes Sovereign nations should defend themselves, and that we should let the investigators figure out who it is. HE EVEN SPECIFICALLY STATED THAT HE IS NOT COMMENTING ON THE SPECIFIC SITUATION IN SOUTH ASIA NOW!


You think he stated that he supports an attack on India? 

HE DIDNT SAY ANYTHING!

This kind of question will damn you if you say yes, and damn you if you say no.

You do understand that IF he did say no, then he would be called a hypocrite.

You also understand that if he said yes, he would, as you said, alienate Pakistan.

AS IT IS HE HAS SAID NOTHING, except some rhetoric.


As it is, it is becoming increasingly clear that Pakistan is NOT our ally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>President-Elect Obama said nothing of the sort, you have taken what you wanted from his statement. He said he believes Sovereign nations should defend themselves, and that we should let the investigators figure out who it is. HE EVEN SPECIFICALLY STATED THAT HE IS NOT COMMENTING ON THE SPECIFIC SITUATION IN SOUTH ASIA NOW!</p>
<p>You think he stated that he supports an attack on India? </p>
<p>HE DIDNT SAY ANYTHING!</p>
<p>This kind of question will damn you if you say yes, and damn you if you say no.</p>
<p>You do understand that IF he did say no, then he would be called a hypocrite.</p>
<p>You also understand that if he said yes, he would, as you said, alienate Pakistan.</p>
<p>AS IT IS HE HAS SAID NOTHING, except some rhetoric.</p>
<p>As it is, it is becoming increasingly clear that Pakistan is NOT our ally.</p>
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		<title>By: wesmorgan1</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/12/01/obama-gives-india-ok-to-attack-pakistan/comment-page-1/#comment-137240</link>
		<dc:creator>wesmorgan1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 17:11:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exactly, Scott - so why is he speaking for the entire government?
&lt;blockquote&gt;Ejaz Haider, a senior editor at the Daily Times, who was at the lunch said Mr. McCain told the group that Washington would not be able to do much to stop India, as the Mumbai attacks were its “9/11.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;When last I checked, a single Senator didn&#039;t speak for &quot;Washington&quot; on questions of foreign affairs.  Neither, of course, does a President-elect; as Obama has said repeatedly, we have but one President at a time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Exactly, Scott &#8211; so why is he speaking for the entire government?</p>
<blockquote><p>Ejaz Haider, a senior editor at the Daily Times, who was at the lunch said Mr. McCain told the group that Washington would not be able to do much to stop India, as the Mumbai attacks were its “9/11.”</p></blockquote>
<p>When last I checked, a single Senator didn&#8217;t speak for &#8220;Washington&#8221; on questions of foreign affairs.  Neither, of course, does a President-elect; as Obama has said repeatedly, we have but one President at a time.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/12/01/obama-gives-india-ok-to-attack-pakistan/comment-page-1/#comment-137024</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 11:06:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Senator</description>
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		<title>By: wesmorgan1</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/12/01/obama-gives-india-ok-to-attack-pakistan/comment-page-1/#comment-136654</link>
		<dc:creator>wesmorgan1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 00:19:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.hindu.com/2008/12/07/stories/2008120757500100.htm

I note that Senator McCain, with Senator Lieberman in tow, had some harsh words for Pakistan:

&lt;blockquote&gt;ISLAMABAD: United States Senator John McCain has said there is enough evidence of the involvement of former Inter-Services Intelligence officers in the planning and execution of the Mumbai attacks.

If Pakistan did not act swiftly to arrest the people involved, the Senator said, India would be left with no option but to conduct aerial operations against select targets in Pakistan.

Senator McCain, the Republican presidential candidate who lost to Barack Obama, told a select group of Pakistanis at an informal lunch in Lahore on Saturday that this was conveyed to him by Prime Minister Manmohan Singh in New Delhi.

Ejaz Haider, a senior editor at the Daily Times, who was at the lunch said Mr. McCain told the group that Washington would not be able to do much to stop India, as the Mumbai attacks were its “9/11.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
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<p>I note that Senator McCain, with Senator Lieberman in tow, had some harsh words for Pakistan:</p>
<blockquote><p>ISLAMABAD: United States Senator John McCain has said there is enough evidence of the involvement of former Inter-Services Intelligence officers in the planning and execution of the Mumbai attacks.</p>
<p>If Pakistan did not act swiftly to arrest the people involved, the Senator said, India would be left with no option but to conduct aerial operations against select targets in Pakistan.</p>
<p>Senator McCain, the Republican presidential candidate who lost to Barack Obama, told a select group of Pakistanis at an informal lunch in Lahore on Saturday that this was conveyed to him by Prime Minister Manmohan Singh in New Delhi.</p>
<p>Ejaz Haider, a senior editor at the Daily Times, who was at the lunch said Mr. McCain told the group that Washington would not be able to do much to stop India, as the Mumbai attacks were its “9/11.”</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: jaybillion</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/12/01/obama-gives-india-ok-to-attack-pakistan/comment-page-1/#comment-136348</link>
		<dc:creator>jaybillion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 11:26:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>India for long has been a slave country. Every asian country including European countries have invaded India. Its time for india to react to this when the whole world is against terrorism. India has been a cowardice country for a long long time. Even if it would be a nuclear war India should attack pakistan. This would reduce the number of militants in Pakistan from attacking other countries..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>India for long has been a slave country. Every asian country including European countries have invaded India. Its time for india to react to this when the whole world is against terrorism. India has been a cowardice country for a long long time. Even if it would be a nuclear war India should attack pakistan. This would reduce the number of militants in Pakistan from attacking other countries..</p>
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		<title>By: The Baltimore Reporter</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/12/01/obama-gives-india-ok-to-attack-pakistan/comment-page-1/#comment-135597</link>
		<dc:creator>The Baltimore Reporter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 04:58:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] as Scott noted a few days ago, Obama is backing that [...]</description>
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		<title>By: wesmorgan1</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/12/01/obama-gives-india-ok-to-attack-pakistan/comment-page-1/#comment-135581</link>
		<dc:creator>wesmorgan1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 02:57:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scott, it&#039;s becoming increasingly difficult to count Pakistan as an ally in any sense other than utter convenience.  You, yourself, followed this article with a Pakistani Army officer naming the Taliban &quot;patriots,&quot; yes?

There is no straightforward way for the US to back either India or Pakistan in their conflict.  India has played the &#039;non-aligned&#039; game for decades, and the Pakistani government hasn&#039;t been able to control itself (e.g. the ISI) or its regional leaders (those guys cutting deals with AQ and the Taliban in Waziristan and other areas) for what, going on 10 years now?

So, what did Obama say?  He said that, while India has the sovereign right to defend itself, he expect ALL mechanisms--diplomatic, economic and political--to come into play in our government&#039;s decisions.  He&#039;s absolutely correct to say this, and he&#039;s hardly writing New Delhi a blank check.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Scott, it&#8217;s becoming increasingly difficult to count Pakistan as an ally in any sense other than utter convenience.  You, yourself, followed this article with a Pakistani Army officer naming the Taliban &#8220;patriots,&#8221; yes?</p>
<p>There is no straightforward way for the US to back either India or Pakistan in their conflict.  India has played the &#8216;non-aligned&#8217; game for decades, and the Pakistani government hasn&#8217;t been able to control itself (e.g. the ISI) or its regional leaders (those guys cutting deals with AQ and the Taliban in Waziristan and other areas) for what, going on 10 years now?</p>
<p>So, what did Obama say?  He said that, while India has the sovereign right to defend itself, he expect ALL mechanisms&#8211;diplomatic, economic and political&#8211;to come into play in our government&#8217;s decisions.  He&#8217;s absolutely correct to say this, and he&#8217;s hardly writing New Delhi a blank check.</p>
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		<title>By: Mansi Saxena</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mansi Saxena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 22:57:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pakistan is a failed nation ( http://www.indohistory.com/history_of_pakistan.html ) and India has got all rights to protect its soverignity by launching a counter attack on Pakistan. It is very clear from Zardari´s statement that Pakistan is not going to take any actions on the home grown terrorists. All my sympathies for Zardari and the civilian governement in Pakistan. I understand the whip is not in their hands. Its the military of Pakistan which determines the policies and so it leaves India with no choice but to launch a counter attack and clear the Pakistani soil with anti-India activities.
The world is watching. Its time to act. India should attack Pakistan. It needs to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Pakistan is a failed nation ( <a href="http://www.indohistory.com/history_of_pakistan.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.indohistory.com/history_of_pakistan.html</a> ) and India has got all rights to protect its soverignity by launching a counter attack on Pakistan. It is very clear from Zardari´s statement that Pakistan is not going to take any actions on the home grown terrorists. All my sympathies for Zardari and the civilian governement in Pakistan. I understand the whip is not in their hands. Its the military of Pakistan which determines the policies and so it leaves India with no choice but to launch a counter attack and clear the Pakistani soil with anti-India activities.<br />
The world is watching. Its time to act. India should attack Pakistan. It needs to.</p>
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		<title>By: Flopping Aces » Blog Archive &#187; The Latest On The Mumbai Attack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flopping Aces » Blog Archive &#187; The Latest On The Mumbai Attack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 18:40:42 +0000</pubDate>
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