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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/11/21/obama-throws-no-bones-to-progressive-base/comment-page-1/#comment-135301</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 20:39:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>link to the quote, or any evidence that Bush got money from Iran Contra?  Lacking evidence, your accusation has as much merit as claims that Hillary got the money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>link to the quote, or any evidence that Bush got money from Iran Contra?  Lacking evidence, your accusation has as much merit as claims that Hillary got the money.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott west</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott west</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 20:22:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But Bush said of Weinberger and the others accused in the Iran-contra episode, “their motivation — whether their actions were right or wrong — was patriotism.” 

So where is my 15 million casper left me oh ya just another patriot act in bushes pocketsorry my bad scottyrockit@hotmail.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>But Bush said of Weinberger and the others accused in the Iran-contra episode, “their motivation — whether their actions were right or wrong — was patriotism.” </p>
<p>So where is my 15 million casper left me oh ya just another patriot act in bushes pocketsorry my bad <a href="mailto:scottyrockit@hotmail.com">scottyrockit@hotmail.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/11/21/obama-throws-no-bones-to-progressive-base/comment-page-1/#comment-135282</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 20:06:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what is the status quo, and what will it be?  Not all change is good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>what is the status quo, and what will it be?  Not all change is good.</p>
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		<title>By: sanjay</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/11/21/obama-throws-no-bones-to-progressive-base/comment-page-1/#comment-135281</link>
		<dc:creator>sanjay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 20:02:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
  (WP)  ... many of Gates&#039;s top deputies are expected to depart their jobs, according to senior defense and transition officials...The anticipated turnover of many key positions suggests that although Gates will help provide some continuity, the status quo will not necessarily endure at the Pentagon.

    Continuity is likely to come in the form of Gates and military commanders leading the war effort in Iraq and Afghanistan, while a new deputy and team of undersecretaries would manage the Pentagon and focus on longer-range issues such as &quot;the budget, the Quadrennial Defense Review, missile defense, relations with allies and preparation for the next crisis.&quot; 
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Removal of the Pentagon status quo is &quot;change you can believe in&quot;.</description>
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  (WP)  &#8230; many of Gates&#8217;s top deputies are expected to depart their jobs, according to senior defense and transition officials&#8230;The anticipated turnover of many key positions suggests that although Gates will help provide some continuity, the status quo will not necessarily endure at the Pentagon.</p>
<p>    Continuity is likely to come in the form of Gates and military commanders leading the war effort in Iraq and Afghanistan, while a new deputy and team of undersecretaries would manage the Pentagon and focus on longer-range issues such as &#8220;the budget, the Quadrennial Defense Review, missile defense, relations with allies and preparation for the next crisis.&#8221;
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<p>Removal of the Pentagon status quo is &#8220;change you can believe in&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: sanjay</title>
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		<dc:creator>sanjay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 18:26:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They may not be progressives, but their vision certainly is intended to bring progressive change:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/01/us/politics/01policy.html?bl=&amp;_r=1&amp;ei=5087&amp;en=999dc033151c2b6c&amp;ex=1228366800&amp;adxnnl=1&amp;pagewanted=print&amp;adxnnlx=1228241720-B3BIERqELkR2sMYX32cb8A</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>They may not be progressives, but their vision certainly is intended to bring progressive change:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/01/us/politics/01policy.html?bl=&#038;_r=1&#038;ei=5087&#038;en=999dc033151c2b6c&#038;ex=1228366800&#038;adxnnl=1&#038;pagewanted=print&#038;adxnnlx=1228241720-B3BIERqELkR2sMYX32cb8A" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/01/us/politics/01policy.html?bl=&#038;_r=1&#038;ei=5087&#038;en=999dc033151c2b6c&#038;ex=1228366800&#038;adxnnl=1&#038;pagewanted=print&#038;adxnnlx=1228241720-B3BIERqELkR2sMYX32cb8A</a></p>
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		<title>By: Oh hell no</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oh hell no</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 17:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only change they will get will be Chris Mattews saying everything TPTB did in the last 8 yrs is ok now bec BHO is the POTUS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>The only change they will get will be Chris Mattews saying everything TPTB did in the last 8 yrs is ok now bec BHO is the POTUS.</p>
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		<title>By: MataHarley</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/11/21/obama-throws-no-bones-to-progressive-base/comment-page-1/#comment-133276</link>
		<dc:creator>MataHarley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 16:19:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m still confused by your comments of driving &lt;i&gt; the GOP so far to the Right that they’ll be wandering through the Sinai...&lt;/i&gt; Larry.

What is so danged &quot;right wing&quot; and gawd awful about wanting small government and conservative fiscal spending??  You make it sound like these platforms are radical, and unappealing notions.  When, in fact, everyone who voted for your guy did so with the explicit desire for *TAX CUTS*.

Or do you believe the conservatives are driven solely to abolish Roe v Wade and shove Christianity down everyone&#039;s throat?  That hasn&#039;t been the main focus of conservatism for quite a while now.  Nowadays, it&#039;s concentrating on financial and govt intrusion into our lives.

I believe Obama may try to come to the center, but he will not give up on universal health care, energy and education.  The costs of these federal programs alone will drive far more of the DNC into the arms of fiscal conservatism.... assuming we have any fiscal conservatives in Congress at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>I&#8217;m still confused by your comments of driving <i> the GOP so far to the Right that they’ll be wandering through the Sinai&#8230;</i> Larry.</p>
<p>What is so danged &#8220;right wing&#8221; and gawd awful about wanting small government and conservative fiscal spending??  You make it sound like these platforms are radical, and unappealing notions.  When, in fact, everyone who voted for your guy did so with the explicit desire for *TAX CUTS*.</p>
<p>Or do you believe the conservatives are driven solely to abolish Roe v Wade and shove Christianity down everyone&#8217;s throat?  That hasn&#8217;t been the main focus of conservatism for quite a while now.  Nowadays, it&#8217;s concentrating on financial and govt intrusion into our lives.</p>
<p>I believe Obama may try to come to the center, but he will not give up on universal health care, energy and education.  The costs of these federal programs alone will drive far more of the DNC into the arms of fiscal conservatism&#8230;. assuming we have any fiscal conservatives in Congress at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 03:15:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;You guys starting to believe that Obama isn’t about principles, but is rather about Obama?&quot; (Larry W.)

We are not starting to believe it... we have always believed it.   Where have you been?   We knew from the start that this guy doesn&#039;t give a dam about nothing and nobobody except himsefl.   His has a narcissic personality disorder and this is exactly what this country does not need.   I still cannot believe that some Americans voted for THIS ONE.   There is a lot of Americans that do not understand what politics is all about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>&#8220;You guys starting to believe that Obama isn’t about principles, but is rather about Obama?&#8221; (Larry W.)</p>
<p>We are not starting to believe it&#8230; we have always believed it.   Where have you been?   We knew from the start that this guy doesn&#8217;t give a dam about nothing and nobobody except himsefl.   His has a narcissic personality disorder and this is exactly what this country does not need.   I still cannot believe that some Americans voted for THIS ONE.   There is a lot of Americans that do not understand what politics is all about.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Weisenthal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larry Weisenthal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 01:02:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You guys starting to believe that Obama isn&#039;t about principles, but is rather about Obama?

It took Nixon to go to China.

It took Clinton to gut welfare.

It took Bush to expand Medicare.

It&#039;ll take Obama to move the Democrats right into the sweet spot center of the political spectrum and drive the GOP so far to the Right that they&#039;ll be wandering through the Sinai, bitterly disappointed that the ingrate Iraqis won&#039;t even grant them solace, much less shelter.

- Larry Weisenthal/Huntington Beach, CA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>You guys starting to believe that Obama isn&#8217;t about principles, but is rather about Obama?</p>
<p>It took Nixon to go to China.</p>
<p>It took Clinton to gut welfare.</p>
<p>It took Bush to expand Medicare.</p>
<p>It&#8217;ll take Obama to move the Democrats right into the sweet spot center of the political spectrum and drive the GOP so far to the Right that they&#8217;ll be wandering through the Sinai, bitterly disappointed that the ingrate Iraqis won&#8217;t even grant them solace, much less shelter.</p>
<p>- Larry Weisenthal/Huntington Beach, CA</p>
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		<title>By: The LEFT Growing Concerned over Obama&#8217;s Cabinet Choices &#8230; Obama Throws No Bones to Progressive Base &#124; Scared Monkeys</title>
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		<dc:creator>The LEFT Growing Concerned over Obama&#8217;s Cabinet Choices &#8230; Obama Throws No Bones to Progressive Base &#124; Scared Monkeys</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 22:47:24 +0000</pubDate>
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