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		<title>By: Greg</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/11/17/california-proposition-8-fallout-reader-post/#comment-359532</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 02:28:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-135483&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Ms. Know&lt;/a&gt;, #54: 

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Justice/2012/0207/Prop.-8-struck-down-Will-California-s-gay-couples-flock-to-the-altar&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Proposition 8 Struck Down&lt;/a&gt;.  

In the immortal words of Yogi Berra, &quot;It ain&#039;t over till it&#039;s over.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>@<a href="#comment-135483" rel="nofollow">Ms. Know</a>, #54: </p>
<p><a href="http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Justice/2012/0207/Prop.-8-struck-down-Will-California-s-gay-couples-flock-to-the-altar" rel="nofollow">Proposition 8 Struck Down</a>.  </p>
<p>In the immortal words of Yogi Berra, &#8220;It ain&#8217;t over till it&#8217;s over.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Ms. Know</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ms. Know</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 15:28:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The liberal illuminati need to get some order.  Violence is not the answer right?  The decision was made, and that should be that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>The liberal illuminati need to get some order.  Violence is not the answer right?  The decision was made, and that should be that.</p>
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		<title>By: Flopping Aces » Blog Archive &#187; Victory in Iraq Day?!?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flopping Aces » Blog Archive &#187; Victory in Iraq Day?!?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 16:35:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] you know it, they&#8217;ll be voting on their own Prop 8, with activists rampaging through the streets, not taking &#8220;yes&#8221; for an [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>[...] you know it, they&#8217;ll be voting on their own Prop 8, with activists rampaging through the streets, not taking &#8220;yes&#8221; for an [...]</p>
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		<title>By: WWJDFAKB</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/11/17/california-proposition-8-fallout-reader-post/#comment-132590</link>
		<dc:creator>WWJDFAKB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 18:52:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well apparently a petitions both for/against have been issued, and the hounds have been released.


Lots of reading material:


http://tinyurl.com/6jwrz5</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Well apparently a petitions both for/against have been issued, and the hounds have been released.</p>
<p>Lots of reading material:</p>
<p><a href="http://tinyurl.com/6jwrz5" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/6jwrz5</a></p>
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		<title>By: WWJDFAKB</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/11/17/california-proposition-8-fallout-reader-post/#comment-132589</link>
		<dc:creator>WWJDFAKB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 18:37:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-132584&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Lightbringer&lt;/a&gt;: 
Islamist Insurgents and &quot;terrorists&quot; are often put in the same cage. 

Why are you even comparing these people (Castro people ) to Somalis whipping people  in the first place?I think my analogy of segregatioists fits the model of their open voicing of dissent ( and not hypothisized acts of violence ) better than broad-clothed violent fundementalists.  That&#039;s my main difference that I have- you can compare their actions to a whole host of things, yet seem  to push the Islamic button repeatedly. We seem to be going around in circles on this

Not all terrorists bomb things, some use fear itself as a tool, or State positions to inspire fear and loathing as in Than Schwe&#039;s case in Burma.  .


&quot;It makes me sad that you believe all Muslims are terrorists WWJDGAKB. (humor intended)&quot;
Even in jest I&#039;m not sure where you get that impression, though I do appreciate the qualifier. .

Not all, just the one&#039;s who belong to &quot;The Base&quot;.The ones who killed two of my friends on a flight over Scotland, the ones who flew into two buildings in my city.  Question for you- do you know any? Do you know the difference between Sunni and Shia and the reason why there is such friction between the two?
Most people don&#039;t. I applaud you if you do. Not even John McCain or many in Congress could.


 Interesting to note that Reagan called them ( al qaeda in the early days of Afghanistan ) &quot;Freedom Fighters&quot; in the 80&#039;s. We sow what we reap, I suppose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>@<a href="#comment-132584" rel="nofollow">Lightbringer</a>:<br />
Islamist Insurgents and &#8220;terrorists&#8221; are often put in the same cage. </p>
<p>Why are you even comparing these people (Castro people ) to Somalis whipping people  in the first place?I think my analogy of segregatioists fits the model of their open voicing of dissent ( and not hypothisized acts of violence ) better than broad-clothed violent fundementalists.  That&#8217;s my main difference that I have- you can compare their actions to a whole host of things, yet seem  to push the Islamic button repeatedly. We seem to be going around in circles on this</p>
<p>Not all terrorists bomb things, some use fear itself as a tool, or State positions to inspire fear and loathing as in Than Schwe&#8217;s case in Burma.  .</p>
<p>&#8220;It makes me sad that you believe all Muslims are terrorists WWJDGAKB. (humor intended)&#8221;<br />
Even in jest I&#8217;m not sure where you get that impression, though I do appreciate the qualifier. .</p>
<p>Not all, just the one&#8217;s who belong to &#8220;The Base&#8221;.The ones who killed two of my friends on a flight over Scotland, the ones who flew into two buildings in my city.  Question for you- do you know any? Do you know the difference between Sunni and Shia and the reason why there is such friction between the two?<br />
Most people don&#8217;t. I applaud you if you do. Not even John McCain or many in Congress could.</p>
<p> Interesting to note that Reagan called them ( al qaeda in the early days of Afghanistan ) &#8220;Freedom Fighters&#8221; in the 80&#8242;s. We sow what we reap, I suppose.</p>
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		<title>By: Lightbringer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lightbringer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 18:06:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WWJDFAKB-

 &lt;blockquote&gt;...but we seem to brush every civil disobedient act off now as a potential terrorist threat- which, in effect lets the real terrorists win.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Who said anything about terrorists? The article Scott posted was about Fundamentalist Islamic thugs imposing their religious beliefs on their fellow Somalis by use of force and intimidation. Those Somali insurgents may be unlawfully fighting their own government and using barbaric tactics to enforce their vision of Islam, but they aren&#039;t planting bombs on Spanish and British trains, in Indian or Iraqi marketplaces, or flying planes into skyscrapers. It makes me sad that you believe all Muslims are terrorists WWJDGAKB. (humor intended)

 Actually, the comparison is still valid even if it is off by a few degrees of violence. Both the Fundamentalist Somalis, and the Gay rights activists who behave like those on that video seem to feel that intimidation and violence (or the threat of it) are better solutions to the lifestyle differences they have with their neighbors. If the ballot box does not favor them, they throw a dangerous public tantrum. In any case, I never once accused the Prop 8 protesters of planning to bomb anything. Abortion clinic bombings are terrorist acts. Overstepping the civilized and constitutional bounds of the right to assemble is not terrorism. Criminal behavior if it becomes violent, but not terrorism.

I find it interesting that you would prefer that the Prop 8 protesters be compared to intolerant, segregation supporting racists than to Muslims. Are you saying that Gay rights activists are doomed to become social outcasts like open racists are today? That Gay Marriage will go the way of segregation? Or are you warning that if they do not get their way that Gay right&#039;s activists will start lynching &quot;straights&quot; and burning crosses in their yards?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>WWJDFAKB-</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8230;but we seem to brush every civil disobedient act off now as a potential terrorist threat- which, in effect lets the real terrorists win.</p></blockquote>
<p>Who said anything about terrorists? The article Scott posted was about Fundamentalist Islamic thugs imposing their religious beliefs on their fellow Somalis by use of force and intimidation. Those Somali insurgents may be unlawfully fighting their own government and using barbaric tactics to enforce their vision of Islam, but they aren&#8217;t planting bombs on Spanish and British trains, in Indian or Iraqi marketplaces, or flying planes into skyscrapers. It makes me sad that you believe all Muslims are terrorists WWJDGAKB. (humor intended)</p>
<p> Actually, the comparison is still valid even if it is off by a few degrees of violence. Both the Fundamentalist Somalis, and the Gay rights activists who behave like those on that video seem to feel that intimidation and violence (or the threat of it) are better solutions to the lifestyle differences they have with their neighbors. If the ballot box does not favor them, they throw a dangerous public tantrum. In any case, I never once accused the Prop 8 protesters of planning to bomb anything. Abortion clinic bombings are terrorist acts. Overstepping the civilized and constitutional bounds of the right to assemble is not terrorism. Criminal behavior if it becomes violent, but not terrorism.</p>
<p>I find it interesting that you would prefer that the Prop 8 protesters be compared to intolerant, segregation supporting racists than to Muslims. Are you saying that Gay rights activists are doomed to become social outcasts like open racists are today? That Gay Marriage will go the way of segregation? Or are you warning that if they do not get their way that Gay right&#8217;s activists will start lynching &#8220;straights&#8221; and burning crosses in their yards?</p>
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		<title>By: WWJDFAKB</title>
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		<dc:creator>WWJDFAKB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 13:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-132432&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Mike’s America&lt;/a&gt;: And yet I am amused by Mikes addressing of our President elect ( Elected by a large electoral vote margin,fwiw) by his full name Barack Hussein Obama. Do you remember King HUSSEIN of Jordan? He was on our side during Gulf 1 and Jordan is a friend of the US. Hussein is pretty common in the Arabic word, just as Patel is in India, and Smith is in the European-American world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>@<a href="#comment-132432" rel="nofollow">Mike’s America</a>: And yet I am amused by Mikes addressing of our President elect ( Elected by a large electoral vote margin,fwiw) by his full name Barack Hussein Obama. Do you remember King HUSSEIN of Jordan? He was on our side during Gulf 1 and Jordan is a friend of the US. Hussein is pretty common in the Arabic word, just as Patel is in India, and Smith is in the European-American world.</p>
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		<title>By: WWJDFAKB</title>
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		<dc:creator>WWJDFAKB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 13:15:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-132432&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Mike’s America&lt;/a&gt;: you completely miss my point. I support everyone&#039;s Constitutional right to peaceful protest and redress of grievances- just because I don&#039;t lockstep with your viewpoint doesn&#039;t mean I am in opposition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>@<a href="#comment-132432" rel="nofollow">Mike’s America</a>: you completely miss my point. I support everyone&#8217;s Constitutional right to peaceful protest and redress of grievances- just because I don&#8217;t lockstep with your viewpoint doesn&#8217;t mean I am in opposition.</p>
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		<title>By: WWJDFAKB</title>
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		<dc:creator>WWJDFAKB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 13:12:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-132400&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Lightbringer&lt;/a&gt;: I don’t think those people were right in anyway shape or form to “run them out of town”, they have every right to express their opinion, but perhaps in their own righteous indignant way they felt the need to excommunicate these people- and I for one am glad those people didn’t get hurt. Hoe different was this from whites hurling epithets at black students in the 60’s? Were they Islamist insurgents? Or would they have compared them to the boogeyman of the day. But to compare them to terrorists is silly- a mob mentality sure, but we seem to brush every civil disobedient act off now as a potential terrorist threat- which, in effect lets the real terrorists win.

Well I guess you have. I suppose you were a punker in those days. That lifestyle itself walks a thin line between society and violence. I’ve been in a mosh pit or two myself-almost got kncoked out cold once, and that was by a friend!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>@<a href="#comment-132400" rel="nofollow">Lightbringer</a>: I don’t think those people were right in anyway shape or form to “run them out of town”, they have every right to express their opinion, but perhaps in their own righteous indignant way they felt the need to excommunicate these people- and I for one am glad those people didn’t get hurt. Hoe different was this from whites hurling epithets at black students in the 60’s? Were they Islamist insurgents? Or would they have compared them to the boogeyman of the day. But to compare them to terrorists is silly- a mob mentality sure, but we seem to brush every civil disobedient act off now as a potential terrorist threat- which, in effect lets the real terrorists win.</p>
<p>Well I guess you have. I suppose you were a punker in those days. That lifestyle itself walks a thin line between society and violence. I’ve been in a mosh pit or two myself-almost got kncoked out cold once, and that was by a friend!</p>
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		<title>By: WWJDFAKB</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/11/17/california-proposition-8-fallout-reader-post/#comment-132514</link>
		<dc:creator>WWJDFAKB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 13:07:03 +0000</pubDate>
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