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		<title>By: Ms. Know</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/11/16/president-bush-still-in-action-despite-news-blackout/comment-page-1/#comment-135481</link>
		<dc:creator>Ms. Know</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 15:25:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I don&#039;t like is how the illuminati media don&#039;t pay any attention to him when he does something right, but the minute he is wrong, it&#039;s news worthy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>What I don&#8217;t like is how the illuminati media don&#8217;t pay any attention to him when he does something right, but the minute he is wrong, it&#8217;s news worthy.</p>
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		<title>By: SoCal Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>SoCal Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 06:33:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks a bunch, Mike, for posting this article.  I appreciate very much that President Bush is still doing the work he was elected to do, and vowed to do.  He IS still President of the United States of America, by the way, in case some missed that point. 

I don&#039;t understand why some are confused about him continuing to do his job?!?  He has always stated clearly that he intends to sprint to the finish, and he didn&#039;t define the finish as, &quot;until Nov. 4th, when a guy who doesn&#039;t deserve to be president gets elected&quot;--(sorry, that last sentence was me paraphrasing.)  

And, no, he will NOT be &#039;forever connected to a negative time in our history&#039; (unless you are an eternal NPR fan).  In fact, he will be known as the most awesome president in our nation&#039;s history, IMHO.  He will be known as the President who held the country together during one of the most, if not the most, tragic time in our nation&#039;s history--Sept. 11, 2001.  And, the one who courageously went after those who would continue to threaten this great nation.  And, the President who, through much wisdom and determination, kept us from another attack on our homeland.  He will be known for his love of God and country, and every other freedom-seeking people or nation in the world, and this all straight from his heart.  He IS The Real McCoy.

I could go on and on about the positive things that accurate, non-partisan historians will say of this man, George W. Bush, and his Presidency, but this is enough for this night.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Thanks a bunch, Mike, for posting this article.  I appreciate very much that President Bush is still doing the work he was elected to do, and vowed to do.  He IS still President of the United States of America, by the way, in case some missed that point. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t understand why some are confused about him continuing to do his job?!?  He has always stated clearly that he intends to sprint to the finish, and he didn&#8217;t define the finish as, &#8220;until Nov. 4th, when a guy who doesn&#8217;t deserve to be president gets elected&#8221;&#8211;(sorry, that last sentence was me paraphrasing.)  </p>
<p>And, no, he will NOT be &#8216;forever connected to a negative time in our history&#8217; (unless you are an eternal NPR fan).  In fact, he will be known as the most awesome president in our nation&#8217;s history, IMHO.  He will be known as the President who held the country together during one of the most, if not the most, tragic time in our nation&#8217;s history&#8211;Sept. 11, 2001.  And, the one who courageously went after those who would continue to threaten this great nation.  And, the President who, through much wisdom and determination, kept us from another attack on our homeland.  He will be known for his love of God and country, and every other freedom-seeking people or nation in the world, and this all straight from his heart.  He IS The Real McCoy.</p>
<p>I could go on and on about the positive things that accurate, non-partisan historians will say of this man, George W. Bush, and his Presidency, but this is enough for this night.</p>
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		<title>By: Hard Right</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hard Right</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 03:34:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, Bush will not be, &quot;forever he connected to a negative time our our history.&quot; He will eventually be seen as a decent president. Not a great one, but no Carter or Clinton,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>No, Bush will not be, &#8220;forever he connected to a negative time our our history.&#8221; He will eventually be seen as a decent president. Not a great one, but no Carter or Clinton,</p>
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		<title>By: road warrior</title>
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		<dc:creator>road warrior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 00:52:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I understand that Bush is still in power and that we need to give him some pace to be the president cause he is. And i also don&#039;t buy into the liberal illuminati propaganda that Obama is the hero that is going to save everything. With that said i still don&#039;t understand what Bush is doing. He is on his way out, why is he wanting to make such waves. Maybe, maybe if he could save his name by doing something big before he leaves office, ok i could understand that. But he can&#039;t. Bush will forever he connected to a negative time our our history. He should use up his vacation time and wait for Obama to go to work. Not that he&#039;s going to do a lot. At least not right away!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>I understand that Bush is still in power and that we need to give him some pace to be the president cause he is. And i also don&#8217;t buy into the liberal illuminati propaganda that Obama is the hero that is going to save everything. With that said i still don&#8217;t understand what Bush is doing. He is on his way out, why is he wanting to make such waves. Maybe, maybe if he could save his name by doing something big before he leaves office, ok i could understand that. But he can&#8217;t. Bush will forever he connected to a negative time our our history. He should use up his vacation time and wait for Obama to go to work. Not that he&#8217;s going to do a lot. At least not right away!</p>
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		<title>By: stix1972</title>
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		<dc:creator>stix1972</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 21:43:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You could have put Colt 45  it works every time also.   Yes, MD is drunk by many people, I knew quite of few of my friends drank it in High School.   It was cheap and got you drunk quickly,with a tremendous hangover the next day.   Kind of like everclear.  Oh the good old days of High School. And the college days of getting Nattie Light, for $5 a case.  Buying cheap alcohol has nothing to do with race, it has to do with money</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>You could have put Colt 45  it works every time also.   Yes, MD is drunk by many people, I knew quite of few of my friends drank it in High School.   It was cheap and got you drunk quickly,with a tremendous hangover the next day.   Kind of like everclear.  Oh the good old days of High School. And the college days of getting Nattie Light, for $5 a case.  Buying cheap alcohol has nothing to do with race, it has to do with money</p>
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		<title>By: Mike's America</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike's America</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 21:18:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Wm T Sherman. I would also point out to dim wit Dave that not all ACORN members are black. Quite a few of them are white.

But I would be willing to venture that most match the description of being &quot;cash strapped underachievers&quot; as well as parasites on the economy and on taxpayers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Thanks Wm T Sherman. I would also point out to dim wit Dave that not all ACORN members are black. Quite a few of them are white.</p>
<p>But I would be willing to venture that most match the description of being &#8220;cash strapped underachievers&#8221; as well as parasites on the economy and on taxpayers.</p>
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		<title>By: sanjay</title>
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		<dc:creator>sanjay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 19:21:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
(Bloomberg) Prime Minister Kevin Rudd was accused by Australia&#039;s opposition of damaging ties with the U.S. after details of a telephone conversation with President George W. Bush were allegedly leaked to the media.

Opposition leader Malcolm Turnbull, who yesterday failed in a parliamentary vote to censure the prime minister, said Rudd or his office had breached the president&#039;s trust with the alleged leak, first reported Oct. 25 by the Weekend Australian newspaper.

During the Oct. 10 phone conversation, Rudd suggested that a summit of Group of 20 nations should be held to deal with the global financial crisis, and Bush reportedly responded: ``What&#039;s the G-20?&#039;&#039;

The Bush administration, which hosts a G-20 summit on the crisis this week, rejected the newspaper&#039;s account of the phone call and Rudd has denied Bush made the comments.

Rudd, or a senior adviser, portrayed the U.S. president as a ``fool,&#039;&#039; Turnbull told Parliament yesterday.

``He has demonstrated that he cannot be trusted to keep confidential a conversation with the most powerful world leader,&#039;&#039; Turnbull said.

The censure motion failed by 81 votes to 56. If passed, such a motion can trigger the resignation of a government. 
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

First they withdrawal from Iraq, then they slander our president. ...Shame the vote failed.</description>
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(Bloomberg) Prime Minister Kevin Rudd was accused by Australia&#8217;s opposition of damaging ties with the U.S. after details of a telephone conversation with President George W. Bush were allegedly leaked to the media.</p>
<p>Opposition leader Malcolm Turnbull, who yesterday failed in a parliamentary vote to censure the prime minister, said Rudd or his office had breached the president&#8217;s trust with the alleged leak, first reported Oct. 25 by the Weekend Australian newspaper.</p>
<p>During the Oct. 10 phone conversation, Rudd suggested that a summit of Group of 20 nations should be held to deal with the global financial crisis, and Bush reportedly responded: &#8220;What&#8217;s the G-20?&#8221;</p>
<p>The Bush administration, which hosts a G-20 summit on the crisis this week, rejected the newspaper&#8217;s account of the phone call and Rudd has denied Bush made the comments.</p>
<p>Rudd, or a senior adviser, portrayed the U.S. president as a &#8220;fool,&#8221; Turnbull told Parliament yesterday.</p>
<p>&#8220;He has demonstrated that he cannot be trusted to keep confidential a conversation with the most powerful world leader,&#8221; Turnbull said.</p>
<p>The censure motion failed by 81 votes to 56. If passed, such a motion can trigger the resignation of a government.
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<p>First they withdrawal from Iraq, then they slander our president. &#8230;Shame the vote failed.</p>
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		<title>By: Wm T Sherman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wm T Sherman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 18:05:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MD 20/20 is famously consumed by a broad spectrum of cash-strapped underachievers. It is not distinctly ethnic at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>MD 20/20 is famously consumed by a broad spectrum of cash-strapped underachievers. It is not distinctly ethnic at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Hard Right</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hard Right</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 16:55:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He misses the fact that the dems were 80-85% responsible for the mortgage and FM/FM debacle. The MSM screamed lound and long how it was the fault of the GOP. People believed this and it was part of what got obama elected.
As long as the MSM is controlled by the left we will never get a fair shake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>He misses the fact that the dems were 80-85% responsible for the mortgage and FM/FM debacle. The MSM screamed lound and long how it was the fault of the GOP. People believed this and it was part of what got obama elected.<br />
As long as the MSM is controlled by the left we will never get a fair shake.</p>
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		<title>By: sanjay</title>
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		<dc:creator>sanjay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 16:46:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill Kristol:
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(NYT)   If Republicans and conservatives don’t come to grips with what’s happened — and can’t develop an economic agenda moving forward that seems to incorporate lessons learned from what’s happened — then they could be back, politically, in 1933.

From 1933 to 1980, Republicans repeatedly failed to convince the country they were no longer the party of Herbert Hoover — the party, as it was perceived, of economic incompetence, austerity and recession (if not depression).

Only two Republicans won presidential elections in that half-century, Dwight D. Eisenhower and Richard M. Nixon. Both were able to take the White House only because we were mired down in difficult wars, in Korea and Vietnam. And Ike and Nixon were unable — they didn’t really try — to change the generally liberal course of domestic and economic policy. The G.O.P.’s fate on Capitol Hill was worse. The party controlled Congress for only 4 of those 47 years.

That’s what happens when a depression begins on your watch and when you can’t offer a coherent explanation of how and why it occurred and what you are going to do differently. That’s what happens when instead of having such an explanation, you spend decades in quarrels between pragmatic but unimaginative moderates who seek to be better tax collectors for the liberal welfare state, and principled but fanciful conservatives who hope for a wholesale rejection of that welfare state. And the fact that there were many successful Republican governors in those years didn’t much change the party’s status nationally.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

OK... that&#039;s true, but then he says this:

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 But I suspect that free-marketers need to be less doctrinaire and less simple-mindedly utility-maximizing, and that they should depend less on abstract econometric models. I think they’ll have to take much more seriously the task of thinking through what are the right rules of the road for both the private and public sectors. They’ll have to figure out what institutional barriers and what monetary, fiscal and legal guardrails are needed for the accountability, transparency and responsibility that allow free markets to work.

And I don’t see why conservatives ought to defend a system that permits securitizing mortgages (or car loans) in a way that seems to make the lenders almost unaccountable for the risk while spreading it, toxically, everywhere else. I don’t see why a commitment to free markets requires permitting banks or bank-like institutions to leverage their assets at 30 to 1. There’s nothing conservative about letting free markets degenerate into something close to Karl Marx’s vision of an atomizing, irresponsible and self-devouring capitalism.

If conservatives do some difficult re-thinking in the field of political economy, they can come back. If they don’t — well, there were a lot of admirable conservative thinkers and writers, professors and novelists, from 1933 to 1980. But conservatives didn’t govern. 
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/17/opinion/17kristol.html?_r=1&amp;partner=rss&amp;emc=rss&amp;oref=slogin

So, now we know why the Times hired him!

Where&#039;s Nugent so he can put Kristol in his cross-hairs?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Bill Kristol:</p>
<blockquote><p>
(NYT)   If Republicans and conservatives don’t come to grips with what’s happened — and can’t develop an economic agenda moving forward that seems to incorporate lessons learned from what’s happened — then they could be back, politically, in 1933.</p>
<p>From 1933 to 1980, Republicans repeatedly failed to convince the country they were no longer the party of Herbert Hoover — the party, as it was perceived, of economic incompetence, austerity and recession (if not depression).</p>
<p>Only two Republicans won presidential elections in that half-century, Dwight D. Eisenhower and Richard M. Nixon. Both were able to take the White House only because we were mired down in difficult wars, in Korea and Vietnam. And Ike and Nixon were unable — they didn’t really try — to change the generally liberal course of domestic and economic policy. The G.O.P.’s fate on Capitol Hill was worse. The party controlled Congress for only 4 of those 47 years.</p>
<p>That’s what happens when a depression begins on your watch and when you can’t offer a coherent explanation of how and why it occurred and what you are going to do differently. That’s what happens when instead of having such an explanation, you spend decades in quarrels between pragmatic but unimaginative moderates who seek to be better tax collectors for the liberal welfare state, and principled but fanciful conservatives who hope for a wholesale rejection of that welfare state. And the fact that there were many successful Republican governors in those years didn’t much change the party’s status nationally.
</p></blockquote>
<p>OK&#8230; that&#8217;s true, but then he says this:</p>
<blockquote><p>
 But I suspect that free-marketers need to be less doctrinaire and less simple-mindedly utility-maximizing, and that they should depend less on abstract econometric models. I think they’ll have to take much more seriously the task of thinking through what are the right rules of the road for both the private and public sectors. They’ll have to figure out what institutional barriers and what monetary, fiscal and legal guardrails are needed for the accountability, transparency and responsibility that allow free markets to work.</p>
<p>And I don’t see why conservatives ought to defend a system that permits securitizing mortgages (or car loans) in a way that seems to make the lenders almost unaccountable for the risk while spreading it, toxically, everywhere else. I don’t see why a commitment to free markets requires permitting banks or bank-like institutions to leverage their assets at 30 to 1. There’s nothing conservative about letting free markets degenerate into something close to Karl Marx’s vision of an atomizing, irresponsible and self-devouring capitalism.</p>
<p>If conservatives do some difficult re-thinking in the field of political economy, they can come back. If they don’t — well, there were a lot of admirable conservative thinkers and writers, professors and novelists, from 1933 to 1980. But conservatives didn’t govern.
</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/17/opinion/17kristol.html?_r=1&#038;partner=rss&#038;emc=rss&#038;oref=slogin" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/17/opinion/17kristol.html?_r=1&#038;partner=rss&#038;emc=rss&#038;oref=slogin</a></p>
<p>So, now we know why the Times hired him!</p>
<p>Where&#8217;s Nugent so he can put Kristol in his cross-hairs?</p>
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