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		<title>By: Cary</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/11/12/moving-on-reader-post/comment-page-2/#comment-131722</link>
		<dc:creator>Cary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 16:14:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wordsmith, your welcome is very much appreciated and I have noticed your civility and generous openness to hearing another perspective.  I thank you for that.  Your advice is quite sound, and I shall do my best to follow it.  Thank you again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Wordsmith, your welcome is very much appreciated and I have noticed your civility and generous openness to hearing another perspective.  I thank you for that.  Your advice is quite sound, and I shall do my best to follow it.  Thank you again.</p>
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		<title>By: Cary</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/11/12/moving-on-reader-post/comment-page-2/#comment-131719</link>
		<dc:creator>Cary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 16:09:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tell you what I &lt;i&gt;did&lt;/i&gt; get out of this is an appreciate for the other Conservative sites which I&#039;ve been visiting for the past four years, who were always open for a discussion and even took the time to get to know me.  We rarely agreed, but there was always a mutual respect.  I regret I didn&#039;t value that more until now.  So thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>I tell you what I <i>did</i> get out of this is an appreciate for the other Conservative sites which I&#8217;ve been visiting for the past four years, who were always open for a discussion and even took the time to get to know me.  We rarely agreed, but there was always a mutual respect.  I regret I didn&#8217;t value that more until now.  So thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Wordsmith</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/11/12/moving-on-reader-post/comment-page-2/#comment-131714</link>
		<dc:creator>Wordsmith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 16:06:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Seems you cannot do that or even give a civil or even polite welcome&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Cary,

I for one welcome you here.  I don&#039;t believe Reasic is new.  

I think I drive my side nuts for civility and the perception that I am a wishy-washy CINO.  Whatever.

Partisanly-speaking but doing so as objectively as I can, there are some really great stuff here.  If hardball rudeness isn&#039;t your cup of tea, simply bypass those comment responses and address what you perceive as the substance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><blockquote><p>Seems you cannot do that or even give a civil or even polite welcome</p></blockquote>
<p>Cary,</p>
<p>I for one welcome you here.  I don&#8217;t believe Reasic is new.  </p>
<p>I think I drive my side nuts for civility and the perception that I am a wishy-washy CINO.  Whatever.</p>
<p>Partisanly-speaking but doing so as objectively as I can, there are some really great stuff here.  If hardball rudeness isn&#8217;t your cup of tea, simply bypass those comment responses and address what you perceive as the substance.</p>
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		<title>By: Flopping Aces » Blog Archive &#187; My Party, Right or Wrong</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flopping Aces » Blog Archive &#187; My Party, Right or Wrong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 16:00:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] seems to be a civil war going on. Hard to the right Conservatives who reluctantly jumped aboard the straight talk express- not [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Flopping Aces » Blog Archive &#187; My Party, Right or Wrong</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/11/12/moving-on-reader-post/comment-page-2/#comment-131707</link>
		<dc:creator>Flopping Aces » Blog Archive &#187; My Party, Right or Wrong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 16:00:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] seems to be a civil war going on. Hard to the right Conservatives who reluctantly jumped aboard the straight talk express- not [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Cary</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/11/12/moving-on-reader-post/comment-page-2/#comment-131706</link>
		<dc:creator>Cary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 15:46:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>.</description>
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		<title>By: Cary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 15:44:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, obviously we are both fairly new to this site.  So, perhaps rather than attacking our characters, you could have spent the same amount of time providing us with links to the posts which address these issues.  We are simply asking you, nicely, to back up your statements.  Seems you cannot do that or even give a civil or even polite welcome.   Still more character attacks, and you still don&#039;t really know either of us - who came in polite, courteous and respectful good faith.  So, sorry you don&#039;t like my &quot;cyber personality&quot;, but I did come civil.  I have plenty of friends who agree with you more than me on politics, and they are never as rude as what I&#039;ve encountered here.  So, my biggest flaw, as the moment, seems to be masochism.  And please don&#039;t tell me I&#039;d get worse treatment elsewhere, that&#039;s like telling the woman whose husband backhanded her in the face that at least he didn&#039;t punch her in the stomach.  Such reasoning is dangerously unsound.

As I&#039;ve said already, I&#039;ve no reason reason to &quot;lure&quot;, whine, demand, or stomp - I already got what I wanted.  Perhaps, in time, you&#039;ll be able to cleanse your palate of the sour grapes and actually offer a discussion we both might benefit from.  Until then, best of luck to you all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Well, obviously we are both fairly new to this site.  So, perhaps rather than attacking our characters, you could have spent the same amount of time providing us with links to the posts which address these issues.  We are simply asking you, nicely, to back up your statements.  Seems you cannot do that or even give a civil or even polite welcome.   Still more character attacks, and you still don&#8217;t really know either of us &#8211; who came in polite, courteous and respectful good faith.  So, sorry you don&#8217;t like my &#8220;cyber personality&#8221;, but I did come civil.  I have plenty of friends who agree with you more than me on politics, and they are never as rude as what I&#8217;ve encountered here.  So, my biggest flaw, as the moment, seems to be masochism.  And please don&#8217;t tell me I&#8217;d get worse treatment elsewhere, that&#8217;s like telling the woman whose husband backhanded her in the face that at least he didn&#8217;t punch her in the stomach.  Such reasoning is dangerously unsound.</p>
<p>As I&#8217;ve said already, I&#8217;ve no reason reason to &#8220;lure&#8221;, whine, demand, or stomp &#8211; I already got what I wanted.  Perhaps, in time, you&#8217;ll be able to cleanse your palate of the sour grapes and actually offer a discussion we both might benefit from.  Until then, best of luck to you all.</p>
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		<title>By: Missy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Missy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 15:22:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sheesh, enough already.  This thread reminds me of a couple of little spiders attempting to lure prey into their web.

In case you have wondered, doubtful, but, we *have* had intelligent debates about the Ayres/Obama relationship, policies, background, etc. for months, check the archives.  FA hosts have provided a vast assortment of source material, wishing you two would study up, lose the attitude and come back.  You also might want to consider the fact that few are bothering with this thread,  could be because your cyber personalities aren&#039;t attractive.  Whew! I appreciate the libs we have in here that can state their opinions and sources without the whining and demanding.

Now, this is an opinion of a cyber great-granny with children older than you, not the foot-stomping demanding kind I&#039;m witnessing in here.  This is my opinion and it is *not* debatable.  

Cheers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Sheesh, enough already.  This thread reminds me of a couple of little spiders attempting to lure prey into their web.</p>
<p>In case you have wondered, doubtful, but, we *have* had intelligent debates about the Ayres/Obama relationship, policies, background, etc. for months, check the archives.  FA hosts have provided a vast assortment of source material, wishing you two would study up, lose the attitude and come back.  You also might want to consider the fact that few are bothering with this thread,  could be because your cyber personalities aren&#8217;t attractive.  Whew! I appreciate the libs we have in here that can state their opinions and sources without the whining and demanding.</p>
<p>Now, this is an opinion of a cyber great-granny with children older than you, not the foot-stomping demanding kind I&#8217;m witnessing in here.  This is my opinion and it is *not* debatable.  </p>
<p>Cheers.</p>
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		<title>By: Reasic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reasic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 14:09:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill C,

I&#039;m STILL waiting for an intelligent conversation.  I&#039;ve offered to discuss any number of issues in detail, including the smears that you are so concerned about, and have yet to see anyone come even close.  However, I&#039;m still willing, should you decide to discuss Obama&#039;s background or policies in detail.  So far, you&#039;ve talked only in generalities about Obama&#039;s past, assuming the worst and demonizing everyone in your path.</description>
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<p>I&#8217;m STILL waiting for an intelligent conversation.  I&#8217;ve offered to discuss any number of issues in detail, including the smears that you are so concerned about, and have yet to see anyone come even close.  However, I&#8217;m still willing, should you decide to discuss Obama&#8217;s background or policies in detail.  So far, you&#8217;ve talked only in generalities about Obama&#8217;s past, assuming the worst and demonizing everyone in your path.</p>
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		<title>By: Reasic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reasic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 13:59:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/11/12/moving-on-reader-post/#comment-131513&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Michael again&lt;/a&gt;:

&lt;blockquote&gt;But I agree with you that it is much more comforting to think that 60+ million people voted for Obama out of sheer ignorance than to think that 60+ million people agree with socialism, Marxism, communism, racism of the likes of Rev Wright and Bill Ayers and have no problem with the anti-America, Black Supremacist ideologies of Wright and Ayers and knowing their President spent his entire two+ decade political career with these ideologies as his core.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I won&#039;t say 60 million plus were 100% informed, because I&#039;m sure there were people out there who voted for him for other reasons.  However, I will say that I am one of many who voted for Obama because we understood both candidates&#039; policies and preferred Obama&#039;s to McCain&#039;s.  I&#039;ve heard all of the smears about Obama, and have come to the conclusion that the claims are exaggerated -- classic partisan mud slinging.  Now, if you&#039;d like to discuss these smears in detail, instead of just drinking the Hannity/Limbaugh kool-aid, I&#039;d be glad to do that.  Something tells me you&#039;d rather believe that Obama is the devil, though.  Whatever helps you sleep at night.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>@ <a href="http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/11/12/moving-on-reader-post/#comment-131513" rel="nofollow">Michael again</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>But I agree with you that it is much more comforting to think that 60+ million people voted for Obama out of sheer ignorance than to think that 60+ million people agree with socialism, Marxism, communism, racism of the likes of Rev Wright and Bill Ayers and have no problem with the anti-America, Black Supremacist ideologies of Wright and Ayers and knowing their President spent his entire two+ decade political career with these ideologies as his core.</p></blockquote>
<p>I won&#8217;t say 60 million plus were 100% informed, because I&#8217;m sure there were people out there who voted for him for other reasons.  However, I will say that I am one of many who voted for Obama because we understood both candidates&#8217; policies and preferred Obama&#8217;s to McCain&#8217;s.  I&#8217;ve heard all of the smears about Obama, and have come to the conclusion that the claims are exaggerated &#8212; classic partisan mud slinging.  Now, if you&#8217;d like to discuss these smears in detail, instead of just drinking the Hannity/Limbaugh kool-aid, I&#8217;d be glad to do that.  Something tells me you&#8217;d rather believe that Obama is the devil, though.  Whatever helps you sleep at night.</p>
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