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		<title>By: Carl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 03:16:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rekz, what color is the sky in your world?

&quot;War Crimes — torture of prisoners is illegal all around the world&quot;

Nope. Not true.

&quot;Betraying the USA — Bush knew about the 9/11 attacks before they happened&quot;

Nope. Not true.

&quot;Incompetence &amp; Negligence — Hurrican Cathrina was a botch, thousands died&quot;

It&#039;s Katrina. The bulk of the incompetence and negligence lay directly at the feet of former LA Gov. Blanco and N.O. Mayor Ray Nagin.

And as far as anyone can determine, no amount of government intervention can prevent hurricanes.

&quot;Exposing US operatives — Valerie Plame was exposed by Bush’ govt.&quot;

Nope. Not true again. Plame was &quot;outed&quot; by journalist Robert Novak. You can&#039;t even get your facts straight.

&quot;Wiretapping w/o FISA Court permission&quot;

Try again. The wiretaps were allowable under law.

&quot;No executives would shake his hand at the G8 Summit.&quot;

That&#039;s a false statement.

rekz, you&#039;re an example of what is wrong in this country. People attacking the President unjustly with false claims. You accepted wild claims of those suffering from BDS and took them for gospel without bothering to check their validity. You are a gullible fool, plain and simple and you rendered your whole post null and void with all the bogus claims.

Keep your two cents, son. You need it more than I.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>rekz, what color is the sky in your world?</p>
<p>&#8220;War Crimes — torture of prisoners is illegal all around the world&#8221;</p>
<p>Nope. Not true.</p>
<p>&#8220;Betraying the USA — Bush knew about the 9/11 attacks before they happened&#8221;</p>
<p>Nope. Not true.</p>
<p>&#8220;Incompetence &amp; Negligence — Hurrican Cathrina was a botch, thousands died&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s Katrina. The bulk of the incompetence and negligence lay directly at the feet of former LA Gov. Blanco and N.O. Mayor Ray Nagin.</p>
<p>And as far as anyone can determine, no amount of government intervention can prevent hurricanes.</p>
<p>&#8220;Exposing US operatives — Valerie Plame was exposed by Bush’ govt.&#8221;</p>
<p>Nope. Not true again. Plame was &#8220;outed&#8221; by journalist Robert Novak. You can&#8217;t even get your facts straight.</p>
<p>&#8220;Wiretapping w/o FISA Court permission&#8221;</p>
<p>Try again. The wiretaps were allowable under law.</p>
<p>&#8220;No executives would shake his hand at the G8 Summit.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a false statement.</p>
<p>rekz, you&#8217;re an example of what is wrong in this country. People attacking the President unjustly with false claims. You accepted wild claims of those suffering from BDS and took them for gospel without bothering to check their validity. You are a gullible fool, plain and simple and you rendered your whole post null and void with all the bogus claims.</p>
<p>Keep your two cents, son. You need it more than I.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck Blakeman</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/11/11/obama-will-fix-the-economy-with-the-bailout-bunch/comment-page-1/#comment-135568</link>
		<dc:creator>Chuck Blakeman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 02:00:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Irrational rants like rekzkarz on both sides is one reason why I&#039;m not part of either party - there&#039;s no arguing with such emotion based rants.  But I&#039;ll ignore that and try - 

For one thing, defending one unknown future President with a past/present one you don&#039;t like isn&#039;t a good way to build up your guy.  Usually it&#039;s by telling all the positive things your guy has done that demonstrate how well he will do in the future.  An argument based on &quot;he&#039;s not as bad as some other guy&quot; is very weak, but when their is no known history for your guy, I suppose this is all you&#039;ve got - but it&#039;s really weak.  

Bush will likely go down as the most socialist president in American history to date with all the bailouts he (and the democratic congress - as usual, neither party is going to be able to pin this solely on the other) is authorizing.  Obama should be grateful.  Bush is greasing the skids for a continued socialist entitlement give-away-based government that ensures we all work as hard as possible to become victims somehow so we can get a piece of the entitlement pie.

Here&#039;s the most irrational thing in this Obama-mania (and admittedly rekzkarz didn&#039;t say this directly, I&#039;m just guessing he is on board with this based on his rant) - &quot;Big business is full of greed, corruption, and is out of control (I agree with this).  Therefore (and this is the insane response), we want to give the biggest business in America (government) even more money to fix the problem.&quot;   Huh?  What makes that big business better able to solve the problem than the other big businesses?  

Businesses aren&#039;t immoral or greedy.  They are in fact amoral and without the ability to act in any conscious way.  People can be immoral or greedy, but not businesses.  What make the people in the government any less greedy or immoral than any other people in any other big business?  Are they somehow different?  Only in one way.  They have even LESS motivation to get it right.  If enough people get ticked off at a business, they can kill it by not buying.  I was in the Federal Government for six years and the sense of both entitlement and immunity from consequence is intoxicating.   

Bush created a much larger government than he inherited (and Clinton had already expanded from his predecessor).  Obama&#039;s solution is to take the biggest business in America and make it even bigger, but somehow we&#039;re not supposed to worry about that. 

Big business is evil, but the biggest one is wonderful.  Irrational doesn&#039;t begin to describe it.  

Rant away...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Irrational rants like rekzkarz on both sides is one reason why I&#8217;m not part of either party &#8211; there&#8217;s no arguing with such emotion based rants.  But I&#8217;ll ignore that and try &#8211; </p>
<p>For one thing, defending one unknown future President with a past/present one you don&#8217;t like isn&#8217;t a good way to build up your guy.  Usually it&#8217;s by telling all the positive things your guy has done that demonstrate how well he will do in the future.  An argument based on &#8220;he&#8217;s not as bad as some other guy&#8221; is very weak, but when their is no known history for your guy, I suppose this is all you&#8217;ve got &#8211; but it&#8217;s really weak.  </p>
<p>Bush will likely go down as the most socialist president in American history to date with all the bailouts he (and the democratic congress &#8211; as usual, neither party is going to be able to pin this solely on the other) is authorizing.  Obama should be grateful.  Bush is greasing the skids for a continued socialist entitlement give-away-based government that ensures we all work as hard as possible to become victims somehow so we can get a piece of the entitlement pie.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the most irrational thing in this Obama-mania (and admittedly rekzkarz didn&#8217;t say this directly, I&#8217;m just guessing he is on board with this based on his rant) &#8211; &#8220;Big business is full of greed, corruption, and is out of control (I agree with this).  Therefore (and this is the insane response), we want to give the biggest business in America (government) even more money to fix the problem.&#8221;   Huh?  What makes that big business better able to solve the problem than the other big businesses?  </p>
<p>Businesses aren&#8217;t immoral or greedy.  They are in fact amoral and without the ability to act in any conscious way.  People can be immoral or greedy, but not businesses.  What make the people in the government any less greedy or immoral than any other people in any other big business?  Are they somehow different?  Only in one way.  They have even LESS motivation to get it right.  If enough people get ticked off at a business, they can kill it by not buying.  I was in the Federal Government for six years and the sense of both entitlement and immunity from consequence is intoxicating.   </p>
<p>Bush created a much larger government than he inherited (and Clinton had already expanded from his predecessor).  Obama&#8217;s solution is to take the biggest business in America and make it even bigger, but somehow we&#8217;re not supposed to worry about that. </p>
<p>Big business is evil, but the biggest one is wonderful.  Irrational doesn&#8217;t begin to describe it.  </p>
<p>Rant away&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: rekz</title>
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		<dc:creator>rekz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 21:47:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama has bad judgement?
Hmmmmm

Maybe.  But how about in comparison to Bush Jr?  Or even McCain?

I for one am much happier about Obama than any president I can recall.

a) Look how skillfully he is bringing together a bipartisan government -- even when he doesn&#039;t need to because he has a full Democratic govt.
b) His main misdeed from the press was being associated with left-wingers.  Oooooh no!  A black man can&#039;t talk to lefties!!!   Obama&#039;s pastor actually believed that black people had been enslaved in the USA!  And furthermore, his wife admitted that she had not always been proud of the USA.  Shocking!

Here&#039;s my 2 cents:

Bush is a traitor.  He should go be tried for treason, and then go to jail or worse.  Why?
a) War Crimes -- torture of prisoners is illegal all around the world, and was in the USA before Bush Jr became president and allowed this law to be bypassed.  Then he authorized invasion of a foreign country under Operation Iraqi Liberation (acronym = OIL) and the leader was tried and executved -- but Iraq had done nothing against the USA, and had in fact been a chief receiver of military aid (ie weapons) from the USA.
b) Betraying the USA -- Bush knew about the 9/11 attacks before they happened, but did nothing.  He was expecting a complete coup, and it failed, but he resumed leadership anyway.  And then, while all flights were grounded, Bush gave the Bin Laden family a free flight to Paris.  When the USA is attacked, is THIS the first thing the chief should do -- deport the suspect&#039;s family???
c) Incompetence &amp; Negligence -- Hurrican Cathrina was a botch, thousands died.  Who is responsible?  The executive, not Brown or anyone else.
d) Exposing US operatives -- Valerie Plame was exposed by Bush&#039; govt.  Frankly, I think this is a minor offense consider a-c above, but it is a clear violation of law.
e) Wiretapping w/o FISA Court permission -- this is also a clear violation of the law, but not as big of an issue either.

So maybe Obama will be a bad president.
Personally, I doubt it.

But perhaps the question is will Obama be as bad of a president?

Donald Trump said Bush Jr is the worst president in history.  No executives would shake his hand at the G8 Summit.  Around the world, he is accused of being a war criminal, and inside and outside of this country he is mentioned as an example of incompetence.

Is Bush Jr the symbol you really want for the USA?  A ridiculed incompetent oaf who struggled for a C-average, bungled all of his business endeavors, is known to have a drug problem and responded by becoming a religious zealot, and dodged any true military service?  I think Bush Jr&#039;s ONLY virtue is uniting the left wing and making the American people pay a deep and painful price for electing incompetent leadership.

rekzkarz.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Obama has bad judgement?<br />
Hmmmmm</p>
<p>Maybe.  But how about in comparison to Bush Jr?  Or even McCain?</p>
<p>I for one am much happier about Obama than any president I can recall.</p>
<p>a) Look how skillfully he is bringing together a bipartisan government &#8212; even when he doesn&#8217;t need to because he has a full Democratic govt.<br />
b) His main misdeed from the press was being associated with left-wingers.  Oooooh no!  A black man can&#8217;t talk to lefties!!!   Obama&#8217;s pastor actually believed that black people had been enslaved in the USA!  And furthermore, his wife admitted that she had not always been proud of the USA.  Shocking!</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s my 2 cents:</p>
<p>Bush is a traitor.  He should go be tried for treason, and then go to jail or worse.  Why?<br />
a) War Crimes &#8212; torture of prisoners is illegal all around the world, and was in the USA before Bush Jr became president and allowed this law to be bypassed.  Then he authorized invasion of a foreign country under Operation Iraqi Liberation (acronym = OIL) and the leader was tried and executved &#8212; but Iraq had done nothing against the USA, and had in fact been a chief receiver of military aid (ie weapons) from the USA.<br />
b) Betraying the USA &#8212; Bush knew about the 9/11 attacks before they happened, but did nothing.  He was expecting a complete coup, and it failed, but he resumed leadership anyway.  And then, while all flights were grounded, Bush gave the Bin Laden family a free flight to Paris.  When the USA is attacked, is THIS the first thing the chief should do &#8212; deport the suspect&#8217;s family???<br />
c) Incompetence &amp; Negligence &#8212; Hurrican Cathrina was a botch, thousands died.  Who is responsible?  The executive, not Brown or anyone else.<br />
d) Exposing US operatives &#8212; Valerie Plame was exposed by Bush&#8217; govt.  Frankly, I think this is a minor offense consider a-c above, but it is a clear violation of law.<br />
e) Wiretapping w/o FISA Court permission &#8212; this is also a clear violation of the law, but not as big of an issue either.</p>
<p>So maybe Obama will be a bad president.<br />
Personally, I doubt it.</p>
<p>But perhaps the question is will Obama be as bad of a president?</p>
<p>Donald Trump said Bush Jr is the worst president in history.  No executives would shake his hand at the G8 Summit.  Around the world, he is accused of being a war criminal, and inside and outside of this country he is mentioned as an example of incompetence.</p>
<p>Is Bush Jr the symbol you really want for the USA?  A ridiculed incompetent oaf who struggled for a C-average, bungled all of his business endeavors, is known to have a drug problem and responded by becoming a religious zealot, and dodged any true military service?  I think Bush Jr&#8217;s ONLY virtue is uniting the left wing and making the American people pay a deep and painful price for electing incompetent leadership.</p>
<p>rekzkarz.com</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck Blakeman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chuck Blakeman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 17:14:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why We Should Break Up Companies, Not Just Bail Them Out

Everyone is talking about whether we should bail out the mega-corporations and if so, what kind of constraints should be put on the use of that bailout money.  

None of the of the solutions I&#039;ve heard fix or even address the problem.

The problem is that the Federal Government has not followed a fundamental business principle - don&#039;t let any one customer become so big that losing it threatens the survival of your company (or in this case, your nation).  No responsible company lets this happen, but the federal government has never thought to even address it.

A simple but very profound change to the Anti-Trust laws would solve this problem going forward.  The Federal Government should institute a new rule - if a company is so large or central to the economy that its demise would threaten the economic security of our nation, it must be broken up.  

The problem isn&#039;t that companies have acted greedily, stupidly, with incompetence or just had plain bad luck.  The problem is that when some companies act this way or are hit with bad luck, they threaten the security of our nation.  The smaller ones just go out of business, as a reminder to others to keep their house in order and don&#039;t overextend themselves.

Our present knee jerk response is to bail out these big, greedy, stupid or unlucky companies and just move on.  The only signal this throws is for smaller companies to become as big as possible as fast as possible without regard to greed, stupidity, or their own future, so that when they get caught thinking badly or with their hand in the cookie jar, the government will save them.

Any bailout we think is necessary right now should be tied directly to the breakup of these companies so they can never again threaten our national security, and as such, would never again require another bailout.  Greed, stupidity and serendipity would take their victims and the rest of us could keep on going.

Some will say this is over-regulation of business by government - a form of socialism.  &quot;Let the free market determine how big a company gets.&quot; (Hint: we don&#039;t have a Free Market or we wouldn&#039;t be talking bailouts.)

One of the basic purposes of government is to ensure the security of the nation.  Making sure our economy is never again taken to the brink by the greed or stupidity of a few big companies is well within the purview of government.  

Socialism is redistribution of wealth - bailing out individuals or companies that were greedy, stupid, incompetent or unlucky.  If we don&#039;t tie these bailouts to the breakup of these behemoths, it&#039;s the corporate version of the Great Society all over again.  We found out welfare didn&#039;t work then, but apparently we&#039;re going to have to learn that lesson all over again.

Chuck Blakeman
http://blog.teamnimbuswest.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Why We Should Break Up Companies, Not Just Bail Them Out</p>
<p>Everyone is talking about whether we should bail out the mega-corporations and if so, what kind of constraints should be put on the use of that bailout money.  </p>
<p>None of the of the solutions I&#8217;ve heard fix or even address the problem.</p>
<p>The problem is that the Federal Government has not followed a fundamental business principle &#8211; don&#8217;t let any one customer become so big that losing it threatens the survival of your company (or in this case, your nation).  No responsible company lets this happen, but the federal government has never thought to even address it.</p>
<p>A simple but very profound change to the Anti-Trust laws would solve this problem going forward.  The Federal Government should institute a new rule &#8211; if a company is so large or central to the economy that its demise would threaten the economic security of our nation, it must be broken up.  </p>
<p>The problem isn&#8217;t that companies have acted greedily, stupidly, with incompetence or just had plain bad luck.  The problem is that when some companies act this way or are hit with bad luck, they threaten the security of our nation.  The smaller ones just go out of business, as a reminder to others to keep their house in order and don&#8217;t overextend themselves.</p>
<p>Our present knee jerk response is to bail out these big, greedy, stupid or unlucky companies and just move on.  The only signal this throws is for smaller companies to become as big as possible as fast as possible without regard to greed, stupidity, or their own future, so that when they get caught thinking badly or with their hand in the cookie jar, the government will save them.</p>
<p>Any bailout we think is necessary right now should be tied directly to the breakup of these companies so they can never again threaten our national security, and as such, would never again require another bailout.  Greed, stupidity and serendipity would take their victims and the rest of us could keep on going.</p>
<p>Some will say this is over-regulation of business by government &#8211; a form of socialism.  &#8220;Let the free market determine how big a company gets.&#8221; (Hint: we don&#8217;t have a Free Market or we wouldn&#8217;t be talking bailouts.)</p>
<p>One of the basic purposes of government is to ensure the security of the nation.  Making sure our economy is never again taken to the brink by the greed or stupidity of a few big companies is well within the purview of government.  </p>
<p>Socialism is redistribution of wealth &#8211; bailing out individuals or companies that were greedy, stupid, incompetent or unlucky.  If we don&#8217;t tie these bailouts to the breakup of these behemoths, it&#8217;s the corporate version of the Great Society all over again.  We found out welfare didn&#8217;t work then, but apparently we&#8217;re going to have to learn that lesson all over again.</p>
<p>Chuck Blakeman<br />
<a href="http://blog.teamnimbuswest.com" rel="nofollow">http://blog.teamnimbuswest.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: sanjay</title>
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		<dc:creator>sanjay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 17:38:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bill,

We didn&#039;t &quot;elect the same ones who caused the problem to fix the problem&quot;, we elected &lt;strong&gt;more&lt;/strong&gt; of the same ones! 19 more in one house and 5 more in the other!

The liberal press has brain-washed Americans! They are now leaning left more now in greater numbers than any other time in our history. 

We need to act fast; we need to take back our country! 

Some of us will be ready:
http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-guns12-2008nov12,0,57478.story</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>bill,</p>
<p>We didn&#8217;t &#8220;elect the same ones who caused the problem to fix the problem&#8221;, we elected <strong>more</strong> of the same ones! 19 more in one house and 5 more in the other!</p>
<p>The liberal press has brain-washed Americans! They are now leaning left more now in greater numbers than any other time in our history. </p>
<p>We need to act fast; we need to take back our country! </p>
<p>Some of us will be ready:<br />
<a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-guns12-2008nov12,0,57478.story" rel="nofollow">http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-guns12-2008nov12,0,57478.story</a></p>
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		<title>By: bill-tb</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/11/11/obama-will-fix-the-economy-with-the-bailout-bunch/comment-page-1/#comment-130775</link>
		<dc:creator>bill-tb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 16:13:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When people elect the same ones who caused the problem to fix the problem, what do you expect.... Congressional approval is what, 19% under Democrats. How exactly does that translate to the hopey changey 59% who think they can now do better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>When people elect the same ones who caused the problem to fix the problem, what do you expect&#8230;. Congressional approval is what, 19% under Democrats. How exactly does that translate to the hopey changey 59% who think they can now do better.</p>
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		<title>By: Hard Right</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/11/11/obama-will-fix-the-economy-with-the-bailout-bunch/comment-page-1/#comment-130761</link>
		<dc:creator>Hard Right</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 14:14:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That kind of opinion is what happens when people forget Carter/Clinton and the MSM is the DNC propaganda wing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>That kind of opinion is what happens when people forget Carter/Clinton and the MSM is the DNC propaganda wing.</p>
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		<title>By: sanjay</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/11/11/obama-will-fix-the-economy-with-the-bailout-bunch/comment-page-1/#comment-130758</link>
		<dc:creator>sanjay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 13:53:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
    In a CNN/Opinion Research Corporation survey released Tuesday, 59 percent of those questioned think that Democratic control of both the executive and legislative branches will be good for the country, with 38 percent saying that such one-party control will be bad.

    &quot;That much good will from the public opens a window of opportunity for the Democrats,&quot; CNN Polling Director Keating Holland said. &quot;But the public expects results and may not listen to excuses for very long if a Democratic Congress and a Democratic White House can&#039;t get their act together in time.&quot;

    The poll also suggests that the public has a positive view of the Democratic Party, with 62 percent having a favorable opinion and 31 percent an unfavorable opinion.

    That is not the case for the Republicans, with a majority, 54 percent, having an unfavorable view of the GOP and 38 percent holding a positive view.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;


This is just temporary. As Curt says, we will rise again!</description>
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    In a CNN/Opinion Research Corporation survey released Tuesday, 59 percent of those questioned think that Democratic control of both the executive and legislative branches will be good for the country, with 38 percent saying that such one-party control will be bad.</p>
<p>    &#8220;That much good will from the public opens a window of opportunity for the Democrats,&#8221; CNN Polling Director Keating Holland said. &#8220;But the public expects results and may not listen to excuses for very long if a Democratic Congress and a Democratic White House can&#8217;t get their act together in time.&#8221;</p>
<p>    The poll also suggests that the public has a positive view of the Democratic Party, with 62 percent having a favorable opinion and 31 percent an unfavorable opinion.</p>
<p>    That is not the case for the Republicans, with a majority, 54 percent, having an unfavorable view of the GOP and 38 percent holding a positive view.
</p></blockquote>
<p>This is just temporary. As Curt says, we will rise again!</p>
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		<title>By: Rocky_B</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/11/11/obama-will-fix-the-economy-with-the-bailout-bunch/comment-page-1/#comment-130739</link>
		<dc:creator>Rocky_B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 09:51:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dandelion;
I wouldn&#039;t have chosen a bevy of what is beginning to smell like a lobbyist free-for-all. But whaddaya expect when you put Congressmen into the oval office. I too find his choices a bit disturbing. I would have traded them all for Trump. &quot;The Donald&quot; has a knack for comprehending the economy and business sense that doesn&#039;t play games. He was the only one I heard correctly predict that what would become the bailout would force gas prices down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Dandelion;<br />
I wouldn&#8217;t have chosen a bevy of what is beginning to smell like a lobbyist free-for-all. But whaddaya expect when you put Congressmen into the oval office. I too find his choices a bit disturbing. I would have traded them all for Trump. &#8220;The Donald&#8221; has a knack for comprehending the economy and business sense that doesn&#8217;t play games. He was the only one I heard correctly predict that what would become the bailout would force gas prices down.</p>
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		<title>By: luva the scissors</title>
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		<dc:creator>luva the scissors</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 05:10:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-130703&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Mike’s America&lt;/a&gt;: you rock mike.  remember billy bucks?  i do and i thought they were so funny.  thank you for the dollar, i needed the laugh.  watched  show on the end of days on history and it freaked me out, as always.  the bail out bunch will screw us way more than we know and they will hida as much as they can.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>@<a href="#comment-130703" rel="nofollow">Mike’s America</a>: you rock mike.  remember billy bucks?  i do and i thought they were so funny.  thank you for the dollar, i needed the laugh.  watched  show on the end of days on history and it freaked me out, as always.  the bail out bunch will screw us way more than we know and they will hida as much as they can.</p>
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