Craig,

I am also curious about the idea that the one who pays tax (specifically the income tax) is the one allowed to vote in the election. I somehow agree about this because if a citizen is really determined to play his part to the society, then he will do his obligation to pay tax. No one will evade income tax payments. Then, tax evasion crime will be reduced. Another is that a large portion of the government fund came from income taxes. So the income tax payers is more concerned about where their money goes.

The problem is what about the citizens who do not have the sufficient income but are willing to take active part in our society. Do they have to stay mute about their opinions and idealism?

reply please

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On uninformed voters I place a good portion of the blame directly on the media. The news media used to give you information on Candidates in Federal, State, and local elections. Now the only thing we hear is endless sound bites, gossip, etc. It is damn near impossible to research the real backgrounds and experience of any candidates.

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Nope, Craig. The only thing that is on an income annual filing is how much they earned that year from various reported sources, and what deductions they take. The IRS then scans the “deductions”, or looks for really odd stand outs to audit randomly. i.e. your deductions all of the sudden went way up. Or your deductions in a particular category (entertainment, medical, office supplies, etal) skyrocketed out of your normal previous behavior.

The other taxes? You pay the gas tax at the gas pump. You pay sales tax at the stores. You pay property taxes to your appropriate city/county. Licensing fees for vehicles are paid at the DMV. You can deduct the property taxes on your IRS filing (at least for now…. that could change and would be a tacit “tax increase”.)

But if you did, and it brought you into a category where you didn’t make enough to pay income tax to Uncle Sam (after allowable deductions), that doesn’t mean you didn’t pay taxes and shouldn’t be allow to have representation for your taxation.

And every citizen (and actually illegal alien) pays sales tax… depending on their state… and gas tax. Even if they are living in the shadows.

So you see, everyone who functions within our borders is actually taxed in some way.

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I don’t know Mata. All these taxes that you are talking about, people who pay them usually file in an income tax report at the end of the year, no?

Anyways, lets forget it, it will never happen. Let the ignorant idiots vote. But as the ignorant crowd gets bigger, something one day will have to be done, otherwise, you will be stuck with stupid ignorant leftist democrats till the end of times.

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How about property tax? Sales tax? Car registrations and licensing fees? Gas taxes?

Even if someone doesn’t hit the threshold of paying income tax, with current law, that doesn’t mean they aren’t subject to some for of taxes.

Remember our colonial battle cry… “No taxation without representation!”

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Mata and Barbara,

Okay! There was a flaw. But then it still could be for people who filed an income tax report, whether they pay taxes or not. At least they are working and bying stuff and paying taxes on what they buy. That would be much better. It would only eliminate students and welfare people.

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Doesn’t work that way, Craig. I know you see some logic in your “only those who pay taxes” get to vote theory. But income taxes are not the only taxes in the US, just as they aren’t in your neck of the woods.

And one who doesn’t pay taxes this year, may next year depending on his income…. and vice versa. See what I mean?

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Craig

The problem with you idea is that a lot of people don’t pay income taxes. When you don’t have enough income you don’t file income taxes. Some have a lot of children and/or medical bills or something else. And seniors who have paid taxes all their lives mostly do not pay income tax. Should they be eliminated from voting? I would kick and scream about that. The truth is that we cannot tell anyone they can’t vote if they are a citizen.

What we really need to do is have a national ID voting card just for voting identification nothing else. This would eliminate people being registered everywhere they lived and failed to notify that registry office. It wold also eleiminate duplicate voters. We need to make it a law people have to register 30 days before an election and have to come to the registry office to sign up. No more man on the street registering the same people multiple times. That ID card should be sent through a machine to show that person has already voted. That should eliminate dead voters and illegal voters and duplicate voters. But the democrats are against every one of these ideas. They are the ones who enacted ACORN, no IDs. They did this because it causes confusion and graft and voter crime so they can win.

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I think that working people who pays income taxes should be the only ones aloud to vote, not students and not people on welfare or the ones who do not pay income taxes. After all, the government money is the taxpayer’s money. So you should be the only ones to have a word to say on how they intend to spend your money. You present yourself at the polls with your income tax report. It assures that you are a legal citizen, it eliminates voter fraud and it prevents ignorant people to make bad choices. It is radical maybe, but it is logical.

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This is what we’ll hear in some Obama circles….

1. WHAT, you mean that the Bush policies on fighting Terrorism (intell, prosecution, air strikes) are STAYING THE SAME????

2. The government is taking OVER my 401k??? WTF?!?!?!?!

3. What do you mean that I can’t vote for a union in SECRET?

4. Cap and trade is putting me out of business!!!!

5. What NO MORE COAL???

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