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		<title>By: blast</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/11/07/you-cant-blame-bush-reader-post/comment-page-1/#comment-129980</link>
		<dc:creator>blast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 20:52:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MataHarley, when you say
&lt;blockquote&gt;However your credibility is eroded when you focus blame only on the current admin.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You failed to read my comments and the context of this present post.  My original comment &quot;Yeah, President Bush and the Republicans who controlled congress from 2000 to 2006 had nothing to do with the bad economy&quot;, was a sarcastic response to the thesis of this article.  I followed in response to another comment with the following, &quot;Neither party has the right plans in my opinion, but the Conservative Republicans had their chance and BLEW it big time.&quot;

As for Clinton, or other administrations they have blame in all sorts of ways.  How far back should we go, what parts of their records should we foist out here for debate?  Maybe Jimmy Carter for not accomplishing his efforts to solve the growing dependency on foreign oil?  Maybe FDR for taking us off the gold standard.  

Your point about Greenspan is also something people should look at.  Maybe when the &quot;inflationary period&quot; Greenspan was fighting was fueling the precise engine of refinancing and leveraging that has given us the real problems we are having now.  One of the main drivers of inflation was the excessive credit and increased energy costs.  When concerns of deflation first came up oil started to spike upward which continued the false sense of inflation and the balloon was continued to be pumped with more false credit.  Then came the crash. 

Finally, I have not read your posts previously, but looked back at your post on drug pricing.  In my comment earlier I drew a mentioned health care in general and the lack of true free market competition.  Although not an expert on drug prices or the health care industry, I do have consumer experience with both.  Your article was very good and part of how the conservative movement can get back on track to provide leadership.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>MataHarley, when you say</p>
<blockquote><p>However your credibility is eroded when you focus blame only on the current admin.</p></blockquote>
<p>You failed to read my comments and the context of this present post.  My original comment &#8220;Yeah, President Bush and the Republicans who controlled congress from 2000 to 2006 had nothing to do with the bad economy&#8221;, was a sarcastic response to the thesis of this article.  I followed in response to another comment with the following, &#8220;Neither party has the right plans in my opinion, but the Conservative Republicans had their chance and BLEW it big time.&#8221;</p>
<p>As for Clinton, or other administrations they have blame in all sorts of ways.  How far back should we go, what parts of their records should we foist out here for debate?  Maybe Jimmy Carter for not accomplishing his efforts to solve the growing dependency on foreign oil?  Maybe FDR for taking us off the gold standard.  </p>
<p>Your point about Greenspan is also something people should look at.  Maybe when the &#8220;inflationary period&#8221; Greenspan was fighting was fueling the precise engine of refinancing and leveraging that has given us the real problems we are having now.  One of the main drivers of inflation was the excessive credit and increased energy costs.  When concerns of deflation first came up oil started to spike upward which continued the false sense of inflation and the balloon was continued to be pumped with more false credit.  Then came the crash. </p>
<p>Finally, I have not read your posts previously, but looked back at your post on drug pricing.  In my comment earlier I drew a mentioned health care in general and the lack of true free market competition.  Although not an expert on drug prices or the health care industry, I do have consumer experience with both.  Your article was very good and part of how the conservative movement can get back on track to provide leadership.</p>
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		<title>By: AF Sarge (Ret)</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/11/07/you-cant-blame-bush-reader-post/comment-page-1/#comment-129825</link>
		<dc:creator>AF Sarge (Ret)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 02:40:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-129770&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;ras&lt;/a&gt;: country must become united once again and not two sided with hate.

Why is it that now we must all &quot;come together and sing kumbaya&quot;, while the last eight years, I&#039;ve had to watch the dems/liberals do nothing but try to undermine Pres. Bush&#039;s policies/wishes?  Watched them try to undermine our brave solders/sailors/airmen in the GWOT?  I watched on news and newspapers, solders and the President burned in effigy, burning of the American Flag, and actually saw a report where an a$$hole $hit on the American Flag in public.  How about that great movie about the assassination of a sitting president? Let&#039;s not forget the anti-American movies from the morons in hollywood (all of which bombed I&#039;m glad to say), and don&#039;t forget the crazy babble from those oh so informed hollywood elite.

Nope, actions speak louder than words my friend, and it&#039;s not the conservatives that need to pull their head out.

Sarge</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>@<a href="#comment-129770" rel="nofollow">ras</a>: country must become united once again and not two sided with hate.</p>
<p>Why is it that now we must all &#8220;come together and sing kumbaya&#8221;, while the last eight years, I&#8217;ve had to watch the dems/liberals do nothing but try to undermine Pres. Bush&#8217;s policies/wishes?  Watched them try to undermine our brave solders/sailors/airmen in the GWOT?  I watched on news and newspapers, solders and the President burned in effigy, burning of the American Flag, and actually saw a report where an a$$hole $hit on the American Flag in public.  How about that great movie about the assassination of a sitting president? Let&#8217;s not forget the anti-American movies from the morons in hollywood (all of which bombed I&#8217;m glad to say), and don&#8217;t forget the crazy babble from those oh so informed hollywood elite.</p>
<p>Nope, actions speak louder than words my friend, and it&#8217;s not the conservatives that need to pull their head out.</p>
<p>Sarge</p>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 01:59:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RAS, you are the worst idiot of this whole site.    And you pretend you are educated... sure.   And polite... sure, this is only a tactic used by manipulators like you.   You do not fool me boy.   You would love to scream at us and calls us name.   You hate our guts; we can see it in everyone of your comment.  But, like the perfect manipulator, you hold yourself back; believing that you will look educated... lol

But, it doesn&#039;t work here, we are smart enough to see thru your mask, like we did for Obama.

&quot;The number of American lives lost, not in one location but the entire nation of Iraq will perhaps stir an expansion of your thoughts. After the events you listed did you note the number of deaths? Would you really go to war over an incident of 37 people? Think not and with that you show your willingness to lead with wise decisions. Now 9/11 was over 3,000 people and on our soil. I believe the difference in situation is obvious to all.&quot;  (RAS)

Woe...Woe!   The 3,000 deaths in WTC were innocent victims.   The deaths in Iraq were mostly due to terrorist’s attacks and from our Army bombing terrorist nests.    Very little collateral damage was done to ordinary citizens from the U.S. Army, my friend... very few. 

Hey, RAS, do yourself a favour, go and get some education.   You are a pity!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>RAS, you are the worst idiot of this whole site.    And you pretend you are educated&#8230; sure.   And polite&#8230; sure, this is only a tactic used by manipulators like you.   You do not fool me boy.   You would love to scream at us and calls us name.   You hate our guts; we can see it in everyone of your comment.  But, like the perfect manipulator, you hold yourself back; believing that you will look educated&#8230; lol</p>
<p>But, it doesn&#8217;t work here, we are smart enough to see thru your mask, like we did for Obama.</p>
<p>&#8220;The number of American lives lost, not in one location but the entire nation of Iraq will perhaps stir an expansion of your thoughts. After the events you listed did you note the number of deaths? Would you really go to war over an incident of 37 people? Think not and with that you show your willingness to lead with wise decisions. Now 9/11 was over 3,000 people and on our soil. I believe the difference in situation is obvious to all.&#8221;  (RAS)</p>
<p>Woe&#8230;Woe!   The 3,000 deaths in WTC were innocent victims.   The deaths in Iraq were mostly due to terrorist’s attacks and from our Army bombing terrorist nests.    Very little collateral damage was done to ordinary citizens from the U.S. Army, my friend&#8230; very few. </p>
<p>Hey, RAS, do yourself a favour, go and get some education.   You are a pity!</p>
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		<title>By: MataHarley</title>
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		<dc:creator>MataHarley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 01:25:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL, Aye!

&lt;i&gt;&quot;Angry&quot;?&lt;/i&gt;  Trust me, RAS... you haven&#039;t seen me &lt;i&gt;&quot;angry&quot;&lt;/i&gt; yet.  And guess what, I don&#039;t live for the moment you &lt;i&gt;&quot;respect&quot; &lt;/i&gt;me.

&lt;i&gt;&quot;Well educated and informed&quot;?&lt;/i&gt;  I&#039;d say your posts speak for themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>LOL, Aye!</p>
<p><i>&#8220;Angry&#8221;?</i>  Trust me, RAS&#8230; you haven&#8217;t seen me <i>&#8220;angry&#8221;</i> yet.  And guess what, I don&#8217;t live for the moment you <i>&#8220;respect&#8221; </i>me.</p>
<p><i>&#8220;Well educated and informed&#8221;?</i>  I&#8217;d say your posts speak for themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Aye Chihuahua</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aye Chihuahua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 01:23:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ras just engaged in the classic

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>ras just engaged in the classic</p>
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<p>The questioning will only get tougher from here.</p>
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		<title>By: ras</title>
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		<dc:creator>ras</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 01:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are much too angry to talk and be respected at this time.  I am well educated and informed.  Your immediate prejudgement is typical Bushism thinking.  I welcome a level headed, intellectual discussion but your anger and sore loosing is not good.  Please learn to love our country or you will end up in a nation you so fear.  Think about it my friend</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>You are much too angry to talk and be respected at this time.  I am well educated and informed.  Your immediate prejudgement is typical Bushism thinking.  I welcome a level headed, intellectual discussion but your anger and sore loosing is not good.  Please learn to love our country or you will end up in a nation you so fear.  Think about it my friend</p>
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		<title>By: MataHarley</title>
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		<dc:creator>MataHarley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 01:10:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, RAS... you did forget to answer that question.  How many must die in your opinion before the US should defend herself against foreign attacks?

And the answer to your question would I, as POTUS, invade on the events I mentioned?  Yes... which is why I already told you that I support Bush on his foreign policy.

Pay attention...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>BTW, RAS&#8230; you did forget to answer that question.  How many must die in your opinion before the US should defend herself against foreign attacks?</p>
<p>And the answer to your question would I, as POTUS, invade on the events I mentioned?  Yes&#8230; which is why I already told you that I support Bush on his foreign policy.</p>
<p>Pay attention&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: MataHarley</title>
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		<dc:creator>MataHarley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 01:08:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Well I guess that is why your party is out of office and diplomacy is now in&lt;/blockquote&gt;

No, your candidate took the election because too many voters demonstrate either the same, or even less intelligence than you.  The media was so caught up in the &quot;historic&quot; event of Obama, that they felt vetting him was unnecessary.

The few places that did vet him were slammed as racists, liars, or distractions. 

You willingly accept media headlines as truth.  You are the perfect propaganda target, and the parrot to pass it along to everyone you come into contact with.... evidently others with the same lazy attitude... or aptitude... towards healthy curiousity and analysis.

Lessons, sometimes, must be learned the hard way.... as demonstrated by Germany, France and the Netherlands.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><blockquote><p>Well I guess that is why your party is out of office and diplomacy is now in</p></blockquote>
<p>No, your candidate took the election because too many voters demonstrate either the same, or even less intelligence than you.  The media was so caught up in the &#8220;historic&#8221; event of Obama, that they felt vetting him was unnecessary.</p>
<p>The few places that did vet him were slammed as racists, liars, or distractions. </p>
<p>You willingly accept media headlines as truth.  You are the perfect propaganda target, and the parrot to pass it along to everyone you come into contact with&#8230;. evidently others with the same lazy attitude&#8230; or aptitude&#8230; towards healthy curiousity and analysis.</p>
<p>Lessons, sometimes, must be learned the hard way&#8230;. as demonstrated by Germany, France and the Netherlands.</p>
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		<title>By: ras</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/11/07/you-cant-blame-bush-reader-post/comment-page-1/#comment-129792</link>
		<dc:creator>ras</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 01:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I guess that is why your party is out of office and diplomacy is now in.  See that was the answer we were looking for.  Just bomb the hell out of a place telling us you are competent and the war will last only three months at a cost of no more that three billion because someone spilled your milk.  A real general will caution your type of thought.  Notice Bush is tossed out with a less than 26% approval.  These are not all loyal Republicans but people who also decided to think about talk such as yours.  Did you want to invade N. Korea or Iran recently?  Just their threats alone would trigger you and that is scary.  Enough so to get them out of office and return to logical well thought out actions.  See in this world you do get called out for your actions.  So if you were president, ask yourself and please let me know the answer &quot;would you invade as a result of the incidents you pointed out&quot;?  Seriously, I would love to know your answer and if it is yes then you see my point why your thinkers are gone.  No one even needs to point this out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Well I guess that is why your party is out of office and diplomacy is now in.  See that was the answer we were looking for.  Just bomb the hell out of a place telling us you are competent and the war will last only three months at a cost of no more that three billion because someone spilled your milk.  A real general will caution your type of thought.  Notice Bush is tossed out with a less than 26% approval.  These are not all loyal Republicans but people who also decided to think about talk such as yours.  Did you want to invade N. Korea or Iran recently?  Just their threats alone would trigger you and that is scary.  Enough so to get them out of office and return to logical well thought out actions.  See in this world you do get called out for your actions.  So if you were president, ask yourself and please let me know the answer &#8220;would you invade as a result of the incidents you pointed out&#8221;?  Seriously, I would love to know your answer and if it is yes then you see my point why your thinkers are gone.  No one even needs to point this out.</p>
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		<title>By: MataHarley</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/11/07/you-cant-blame-bush-reader-post/comment-page-1/#comment-129791</link>
		<dc:creator>MataHarley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 00:57:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;ve really got to be young, RAS...

&lt;blockquote&gt;Well what the heck why did our founding fathers call it the United States. Guess I missed it and did not realize we are all just a bunch of divided asses. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yup... &quot;miss it&quot; you did.  

The &quot;united&quot; states was the creation of a republic with a federal government for the limited group needs like military defense, printing money and building interstate roads.  That&#039;s the only jobs for the feds they had in mind.

The &quot;united&quot; states did *not* mean we all have to agree on our path, our votes.  In fact, dissention was encouraged, and fearing &quot;absolute power&quot; was required.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Doesn’t WWI and WWII mean anything to you? I believe we united and stunned the entire world with our unity, purpose and ability.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yes, my parent&#039;s generation put today&#039;s world to shame.  However I believe their uniting behind a nation that went to war after being attacked in Pearl Harbor... a military base... might give you pause for cause before using that comment again.  For surely, your party did not &quot;unite&quot; and &quot;stun the world&quot; after the Twin Towers and the Pentagon were attacked... and Flight 93 was thwarted by truly courageous Americans.

Thank you for your &quot;unity&quot; when it was needed... not.   Now stop asking me for mine to support your choice of POTUS.  I will stick with the founding fathers notion that absolute power in government should be feared, and that we are still free to dissent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>You&#8217;ve really got to be young, RAS&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>Well what the heck why did our founding fathers call it the United States. Guess I missed it and did not realize we are all just a bunch of divided asses. </p></blockquote>
<p>Yup&#8230; &#8220;miss it&#8221; you did.  </p>
<p>The &#8220;united&#8221; states was the creation of a republic with a federal government for the limited group needs like military defense, printing money and building interstate roads.  That&#8217;s the only jobs for the feds they had in mind.</p>
<p>The &#8220;united&#8221; states did *not* mean we all have to agree on our path, our votes.  In fact, dissention was encouraged, and fearing &#8220;absolute power&#8221; was required.</p>
<blockquote><p>Doesn’t WWI and WWII mean anything to you? I believe we united and stunned the entire world with our unity, purpose and ability.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yes, my parent&#8217;s generation put today&#8217;s world to shame.  However I believe their uniting behind a nation that went to war after being attacked in Pearl Harbor&#8230; a military base&#8230; might give you pause for cause before using that comment again.  For surely, your party did not &#8220;unite&#8221; and &#8220;stun the world&#8221; after the Twin Towers and the Pentagon were attacked&#8230; and Flight 93 was thwarted by truly courageous Americans.</p>
<p>Thank you for your &#8220;unity&#8221; when it was needed&#8230; not.   Now stop asking me for mine to support your choice of POTUS.  I will stick with the founding fathers notion that absolute power in government should be feared, and that we are still free to dissent.</p>
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