He and she who read may hark my words unto theine sleeves. About the time of recreated’s all comes to clean and be instants of bath’ed. Out of the said words I did not utter, the tounges in the mouth started to spudder. Come to the vine of the roots are a sprouted, truely a marvel any insurmounted, can and are willeth not but and or are is to be forgot. Had we a mind to stencil our dribbles, prior they get what we aught to have, not… Yes it is in not knowing that our trancendances upon to and fro’ the lands and oceans that we go are made of lies that which do not die, waking to stir all into the cry. The sputtered lips sink in the tounge a beseeching of the chosen one. Glasses of full and have nots to rule, the blood of thy shepard has not come come true. Come Come to be you, an bortherly petistol of now our regrettedful, chambers wake and slither to escape, and rowing we do, not less we , yes, musn’t forgive those untied shoe

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RockyB: Many thanks and I am going to CERTAINLY look at that maud dib prophesy more in-depth.
That ‘doomsday sect’ referred to those of Jones Jones ilk, and those who think Oreo Cookies are the next anti-christ….so didnt refer to you at all. You made some great input, will keep me busy for a while. Right not, I am at Hilton Head for the week and with atrocious blackberry reception, and have to go to a wi-fi place to run my laptop, so too much irritation. In fact, I have to leave the room and go outside to get any reception at all. Talk to you later. Tkx, Srr

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Steve;
No offense taken, or intended. I was just a little confused after the Revelation/Anti-Christ subject was brought up to be told what I perceived as amounting to, “Hold on, we don’t want to go there.” My only intention was to point out some things I found and possible connections which seem very intriguing. I’m not affiliated with any fundamentalist or evangelical church or involved in any organized or disorganized cult or sect. Nor would I care to form one.

I’m only an independent student theology/metaphysics/mythology/prophecy self-researcher. If I had to categorize myself in regards to a specific school of thought, I suppose I would fall under the basic definition of Gnosticism; the pursuit of religious knowledge and wisdom to become spiritually closer to that supreme entity which is God. I do not close my mind off from all other religious texts. I find most to have very similar basic tenets and something to offer and it helps one to gain insight and comprehend the motives and passions of the followers.

And no, I take no offense from the “doomsday sect” comment either.

BTW, since NYExPat has not responded back, here are some links to the Islamic Mahdi prophecies he mentioned. You’ll find that Mahdib of the science fiction “Dune” series of books by Frank Herbert were loosely based on the Imam Madhi:

http://bdsteel.tripod.com/More/Prophecy.htm
http://bci.org/prophecy-fulfilled/index.htm

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Rocky B…
Don’t take it wrong, no offense meant at all, just reminding us both. I am sure you are correct, and while I opened the door, I did not invite any doomsday sects to enter. Your comments are appreciated and are interesting.

Stan: just where can 666 in a lottery have to do with end times? About as much as Oreo Cookies will crown the next anti-christ.

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Oh I forgot to mention Babylon was, according to legend, where the world’s languages were confounded. America is the “Big Mixing Pot” where they are all coming back together again.

If I’m out of line, and there’s no place for this subject at FA. I’m sure Curt or one of the other moderators will point it out. But, you opened the door, I just walked in. As for any ridicule someone wants to dish out against me. I’m a big boy and can handle myself. These are my posts and opinions, which are certainly not necessarily that of FA.

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Steve;
I get your point, yet there have been other comments and posts on FA referring to 2012 & Anti-Christ potential, and there do seem to be several different prophecies that may be converging in the near future. As NYExPat points out. This seemed like a good thread for going over some potentials. Rather than having it spread out through several others. Thinking ahead to possible futures is more of a Conservative ideology, than the instant gratification sought by the “Me” generation types.

I haven’t seen anything yet that says the head wound would occur while the Anti-Christ is in power. Only the mention of it in the Beast from the Seas passages. It was only one of seven heads, that’s why I attributed it to JFK as he was on a navy PT boat and the shot in the head. His administration did recover and continue under LBJ. Reagan was shot in a lung by Hinkley, not in the head, so it didn’t fit him.

Checkers;
Who knows if that case will go anywhere. I’m sure some Dem in the Hawaii records office might happily type their new favorite son up a “long-form” birth-certificate. They have an entire month to try to find an old blank form and the old stamps. Of course, since Berg started his case months ago I’m sure they’ve already had plenty of time already.

Sta R (#21);
Hmm… that would likely lead to quite a few old Black Sabbath groupies splitting the money. What kind of world danger could that present?… Ozzy Osbourne on the come-back trail attempts to bite the head off of the beast perhaps? Might be able to work that into the head wound.

NYExPat
It isn’t America-centric, but a world view. That’s why I gave serious thought to the old Illuminati conspiracy theory angle. As that theory goes; Each of the four Anti-Christ Beasts connects to a different great Illuminati country experiment. Along those lines under the conspiracy theory as the stories go:

http://worldmessenger.blogspot.com/2008/04/illuminati-world-government-fronts.html
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/14493a.htm
http://www.prolognet.qc.ca/clyde/illumin.htm
http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/uspresidentasmasons.htm

Each of these countries were developed to ascertain which might work best for the ultimate goal of a One World Government. The Church of Jesu, which became the HQ The Knights of Malta (AKA Knights of Saint John, who eliminated the Knights Templar in the 1300′s), was founded in 1534 by Ignatius Loyola (also founder of the Illuminati). George Washington, was alleged to have been replaced by Adam Weishaupt a Bavarian Illuminoid who fled Europe. Most of our founding fathers have been reported to have been Freemasons.

Previous to our Revolutionary War, Masonry and other secret societies existed in France and Germany and were at one time banned. Napoleon’s empire in the Republic of France did not work out very well, as he gained in power he decided not to remain a puppet, so of course he had to be disposed, at the Battle of Waterloo one of his Generals failed to provide reinforcements.

Russia was a similar purely socialist/communist experiment that eventually rivaled America in power through the Cold War, yet it didn’t work because it was too heavily-oppressive and stagnate.

Hitler’s Germany was a sociofascist Republic. The Illuminoids had higher hopes of success there and gave the Nazi’s the added task of collecting and accumulating religious artifacts from the Holy Lands. It is a known fact, Hitler used religious prophecies and those of Nostradamus and had people studying them in an effort to come up with strategies that would have him fulfilling them and rising to eventually becoming the head of the future One World Government. His hunger for power and ego was also his undoing.

America is the only one of these four kingdoms to survive intact. Over the centuries there were sympathetic alliances with the other three countries. The French & Americans versus England in the colonies and Revolutionary War. Germany Sympathizers prior to WWII. Communist Sympathizers which led to the McCarty era, etc. That is what shifts the focus to the USA. The League Of Nations and later the United Nations, might be considered an Illuminoid attempt to reunite that torn asunder by the fall of the Tower of Babel.

It can’t just be a coincidence that the U.N. building is on Manhattan Island in New York. Where we also find our Stock Exchange which has been a prime focus of world attention of late. Also where the WTC towers once stood. Nor that Washington DC is only 200 miles away. Nostradamus spoke several times of the New City in his prophecies and it’s location; 45 degrees.

I love America. Like many, I am deeply concerned and wonder what our World’s elitists, those “Illuminati” (if they exist), might be up to behind our backs, of which we are totally unaware. We know with the L.O.S.T., Global Poverty, Kyoto, and other treaties are in the works which we the people do not condone. Nor are they good for America. Those outside looking in, may well view America, if it is a place of gathering for a world shadow government, as the “Whore of Babylon” sitting astride many waters (Revelation 17:15). I hope it may still be in our power to change things, but feel it is certainly fair to point out, it is far better to be forewarned and prepared rather than choosing to remain blind. Lady Liberty was a gift to us from France that stands near to that New City. I pray that Revelation 18:23 is not referring to her torch when it says. “And the light of a lamp shall shine in thee no more.”

Is there an Illuminoid plot? Could these concepts be links to understanding more about the book of Revelation? I don’t know. None of us do. Only God does. I don’t raise these points to instill fear, but for others to consider. There is no point in being afraid. Should something like this be God’s will, we can do nothing to change it. It’s “above our pay grade.”

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Not sure if it really means anything, but in the Illinois State Lottery of Wednesday, Nov 5th, the numbers drawn in the Pick 3 Lottery were 666. That’s true, you can look it up!

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on this Eve,the End of Times,we stand
Great Winds coming on terrible Thunder
as ‘many-will-come-claiming-to-be-Me’
stands decked in victory,
already decorated -

Come quickly to save us, Dear Lord,
before the darkness falls
I cannot tell if I should run or wait
an even gait, now walking & I turn onto
The Highway of God.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvdpEsSqUqE

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Checkers:
Thats Exactly the scenario I envision.
Have to look at the passage itself, if its obviously allegorical, its allegorical, if it refers to something as simple as a wound, etc, assume it is literal unless the context says otherwise.
Tkx

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Steve,
I don’t disagree with your interpretation. I just wonder how literal some of the passages are meant to be taken?
How about same scenario but assassination attempt causes almost mortal wound and then there is a miraculous recovery?
Good post by the way..

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