Good grief…Senator McCain has not called him “every name in the book”; has been talking extensively about the economy, as well as Obamanomics. And regarding that “I share my peanut butter and jelly sandwich” line….
This looks to be evidence to the contrary:
Today, Barack Obama’s long lost aunt has been found living in poverty somewhere far worse than the slums of Huruma on the outskirts of Nairobi.
Yes, Barack Obama’s aunt Zeituni Onyango is living in public housing in South Boston:
Barack Obama has lived one version of the American Dream that has taken him to the steps of the White House. But a few miles from where the Democratic presidential candidate studied at Harvard, his Kenyan aunt and uncle, immigrants living in modest circumstances in Boston, have a contrasting American story.
Zeituni Onyango, the aunt so affectionately described in Mr Obama’s best-selling memoir Dreams from My Father, lives in a disabled-access flat on a rundown public housing estate in South Boston.
His “Uncle Omar” faired even worse:
A second relative believed to be the long-lost “Uncle Omar” described in the book was beaten by armed robbers with a “sawed-off rifle” while working in a corner shop in the Dorchester area of the city. He was later evicted from his one-bedroom flat for failing to pay $2,324.20 (£1,488) arrears, according to the Boston Housing Court.
It’s up to you to feed, clothe, and house these Obamas, America.
Because when it comes to “spreading the wealth around,” Barack Obama obviously wasn’t talking about his.
helloo…we all know that the “black american dream” belongs to obama alone. he says screw his relatives, he in it for him, nobody else. obama’s brother lives on 2 dollars a month in yenya, give him a himdred bucks and hes good for a while. obama is a hippocrit and he sucks. he really could care less about them, he only wants them to keep shut up about his being born in kenya, and in that same article they state that obama was lost. go figure, he won’t share his sandwich with his own family, he won’t share with anyone else.
“My Bible tells me there is nothing wrong with helping other people, that we want to treat others like we want to be treated. That I am my brother’s keeper, and I am my sister’s keeper. I believe that.”
Barack Hussein Obama, October 29, 2008
What Would Jesus Do? Lobby for More Govt. Welfare or Help a family member Personally?
Actions speak louder than words!
@Mike’s America: INACTION SPEAKS LOUDER THAN WORDS.
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I could tell from the start that Obama was a fraud. This man ego is so big; it wouldn’t pass thru the door of the White House. He is an elitist arrogant self-centered man. Obama only cares about himself, it is so obvious. I am stunned that half of the population of the States cannot see that.
How can Obama possible share with his indigent relatives? Think of Michelle’s children. Do you know the price of fruit and arugula? You are talking about taking food out of their mouths.
The Economist endorses Obama:
http://www.economist.com/opinion/displayStory.cfm?Story_ID=12511171
@Jan:
Jan,
Are you capable of an original thought or are you limited to copy/paste?
Aye,
Watch me: I can copy/paste, too….and boy, do I loooooove blockquoting:
OMG…I read the Economist endorsement.
Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaak.
LMFAO! Ok first you say he wants to “spread the wealth around”.
Now you say he doesn’t share with his family.
Cant you make up your mind?
Btw Obama bairly even knows his family in Kenya Africa.
His father was from Keya but, HIS FATHER WAS NEVER IN HIS LIFE!!!!!!!!!
The last time he met his father was when he was a kid.
And then THAT WAS IT!!!!
You guys claim you know everything.
Why didn’t you know that Obama bairly knew his OWN FATHER let alone his father’s side of the Family.
He was raised in Hawaii by his Grand parents ON HIS MOTHER’S SIDE OF THE FAMILY.
Geze, if its not one thing its another.
If he’s not a celebrity, he’s a Palli’n around with terroist, if he’s not a socialist, he mistreats his family…….WHO HE BAIRLY EVEN KNOWS!!!!!!!
Wow! You Re-pubs Are pathetic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Obama/Biden 08!
David101./Jasmine:
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Can’t you grasp basic comprehension?
He wants to spread OTHER PEOPLE’S wealth around; not his own.
Sure Jasmine;
Obama wants to spread the wealth. But not his own. What are you crazy? That’s HIS money. Speaking of spreading the wealth, If he keeps spending like he has this election while he’s in office, we are really in trouble. He could have paid for all those earmarks he tried to get passed before he quit legislating to run.
Well, no s**t, dipstick. Doesn’t stop him from talking about his poor old grandmother living “in a hut” in Kenya.
You’d think if he cared so much, he’d share a little more of his own wealth with “strangers”.
Don’t forget that both Obama and Biden rank at or near the bottom of politicians donating to Charity.
They say it’s selfish and unpatriotic not to pay more in taxes.
I guess they know what they are talking about. They are both about as selfish and unpatriotic as they come.
LMFAOOOOO ok, ok, ok!
So you don’t want him to spread the wealth around.
But you critisize him for not “spreading the wealth around” with his family who he BAIRLY EVEN KNOWS!
WTF???
LMFAO!
This is just too funny!
Obama/Biden 08!
Leave it to the utterly dense to totally distort “my brother’s keeper” and charity as a whole.
First of all, Jasmine/David/David101… there is nothing wrong with spreading your *own* wealth around, of which the Obama’s have plenty. And of which, the Obama’s have been extraordinarily stingy with both relatives and charity.
There is something extremely distorted in stealing the kid’s PB&J sandwich sitting next to you, to share with the class. Share his own? No problem. Steal from the guy next to him to share? SOCIALISM
BTW, watch your language, girl. I have to dig you out of the spam filter. If you parrot previous posts and add nothing, I’ll empy you with the rest of the “garbage”. But if you say and document nothing, but accuse everyone of being racist… consider your act discarded. Because I will not dig you out of the filter.
@David101:
It’s not funny at all, it’s his family. He should be helping them, he should have been helping them whenever he could. Wouldn’t you, if it were your family? It’s not that he doesn’t have the means.
I want an honest answer from you. Would you help your poverty stricken grandparents? Would you help your poverty stricken grandparents if you were a millionaire? Does it matter how much you know them, they’re your own blood? Like the blood Obama claims as his African heritage. Convenient for him in all the firsts, but he doesn’t seem to want to maintain a family relationship with them. Not good enough for him maybe?
MataHarely
Ok first off, what spam filter are you talking about?
Second, the Obama’s don’t have any “wealth”.
He has 1 car, 1 house, 2 kids and 1 wife.
He makes atleast over 250,000 a year.
But, I don’t see how that makes him wealthy.
Compaired to Mr Mcain who has 7 houses 13 cars and a private jet.
And has had 2 wives over his lifetime.
Now you critisize Obama for not “spreading the wealth” with his family, that I reapet HE BAIRLY EVEN KNOWS
But, Atleast he did’nt cheat on his wife.
And when did I ever accuse you of being racist?
But what ev.
Obama was right you re-thugs are just throwing everything on the wall to see if something sticks.
I guess not sharing wealth with a family YOU BAIRLY EVEN KNOW is fair game with the re-thugs.
Btw, what’s up with the Socialist charge???
I thought Obama was a celebrity, then he was pall’in around with terroists, now he’s a socialist?
LMAO! Sad…….just sad!
Obama/Biden 08!
Poor “David”…. Even with all the houses McCain’s WIFE CINDY owns, the couple still has the money to donate a much larger percentage of their income to charity than Obama and Biden.
And perhaps you didn not know, but some of those “houses” are homes for McCain’s relatives, including an elderly aunt.
Compare that to Obama’s aunt in Boston who lives in a slum.
Ah, but to cite another famous Obama phrase, that’s “just words, just speeches….”
“David” you are one big:
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O and as for your question Missy.
Yes I would, IF I KNEW THEM!!!!!
How can he help a family he bairly even knows?
Yes he does talk about BOTH SIDES of his family.
But just becuz he talks about them, doesn’t mean he has a close relationship with them.
I have 2 half brothers and 1 sister.
I’ve only met them once in my ENTIRE life.
Now if they had been struggling, and I did’nt know them well, how could I be a selfish person?
How Am I a bad person if I don’t help a family I BAIRLY EVEN KNOW??
That’s pretty much the same thing with Obama!
He bairly knew his own father, let alone his father’s side of the family.
I don’t see how he is a bad person not helping a family he bairly even knows.
So there Missy, I answered your question honestly are you happpy?
Obama/Biden 08!
Oh David, Jasmine, ???
Here’s the information from cheap a** Obie’s 2007 income tax returns. note the ***7***figures:
The 2007 return at a glance
Ø Total income: $4,238,165
o Adjusted gross income: $4,139,965
o Salaried income: $260,735
o Net profit from books: $3,943,378
Ø Federal taxes paid: $1,396,772
Ø Total charitable contributions for 2007: $240,370
http://blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/2008/04/obamas_2007_income_tax_returns.html
You truly are a DNC poster child for the Americans that just can’t take care of themselves, Jasmine/David/David101. You know, were you not such an arrogant and belligerent wench, I’d actually have more empathy for you. But alas…
There’s no where to go with your post, as almost everyone here will acknowledge. i.e.
uh huh… now tell that to your political God, who believes the dividing line of “wealth” is $250K… no $200K…. wait a minute, Joe Biden came back and said it was $150K. Wait! Breaking news! It’s $100K!
You’re an idiot…
No. Cindy has seven houses and a company jet. But sounds good for your mentally challenged comrades to put it your way, right? Afterall, they don’t have the capabilities of discerning facts.
And what’s with the 2 wives. Aren’t you for the party of divorce, abortion and downtrodden clawing your way back to the the top? ooops
… and I quote:
…etc, etc. This is only your latest in your history here on FA. Of which I am too bored to retrieve.
But no… because I don’t agree with you on Obama, I’m a race baiter and racist.
Remove the Obama emblem from your butt please… it’s affecting the only brain cell you possess.
That’s interesting. Obama wants to take everyone’s money over $250K… no $200K…. wait a minute, Joe Biden came back and said it was $150K. Wait! Breaking news! It’s $100K! for people we “bairly”… aka barely… know. But that’s okay with you, right?
And if you have to ask about the “socialist charge” now, you are way too far behind, and way too inept to catch up now.
Next spam filter you’re in? Say bubbye…. because I won’t rescue your worthless ass.
@David101:
This site has a SPAM filter. Sometimes posts get caught in it. Some posts belong in it.
So, the millions that he has made on his two books don’t make him wealthy?
The mansion that he lives in. What’s that worth?
Yes, he’s wealthy.
Pssst….
Cindy McCain inherited money from her parents. Money that they worked hard for.
Sometimes marriages fail. Why don’t you try spending five plus years in a prison camp thousands of miles from home and see if it puts a strain on your marital relationship.
He knows his auntie well enough to write about her in his book but he doesn’t know her well enough to get her out of a slum in Boston. That speaks volumes about his character.
He doesn’t know his brother who lives on $1 per month?
Really?
You’re wrong on that point as well. Not only does he know his brother, he knows his situation. Rather than try and do something to help he turns his head and ignores it. He speaks about being “his brother’s keeper” but doesn’t have the decency to help lift him up.
You point your bony finger at the McCains and fault them for having multiple houses without even acknowledging that they have the decency to help provide at least one relative with a place to live.
Really?
Are you sure?
Ever heard of Vera Baker?
Do some reading to see what you can find out.
Again, he knows his auntie well enough to write about her in his book, thus earning a dime off of her, but doesn’t have the decency to help her when she needs it.
You wouldn’t begin to be capable of understanding it even if it were explained to you in detail with crayon colored pictures.
Yes, he is. Yes, he did. Yes, he is.
Yes, you are.
Obama/Biden 08!McCain/Palin 08!
@MataHarley: Mata, you have to admit, it says something about someones charactor that EACH marriage, started in adultery. McCain’s first wife was married when he started a relationship with her, and when he met Cindy, and had a relationship with her for alittle over a year, while he was still married, and living with his former wife. I don’t care for the way David101 is coming across with her comments, but she does make a couple of points.
@David101:
Very happy. Now explain to me why the taxpayers should be giving their money to people they don’t know being as though you feel no need to help your own blood.
@Missy:
Excellent point Missy.
Why should I support anyone that I “bairly” know?
@David101:
Why should I David?
If that excuse is good enough for BO then it should be good enough for me. This country is all about equality right?
@David101: When talking with Mata and a few others on this site, they will show some respect, if you show it yourself. Mata is the type of person that will give you much info. and be patient with you. Just some advice from a fellow Obama supporter that likes to frequent this site.
@voter:
You’re right Erika, we do.
Thanks for noticing.
Erika/voter… first of all, good on you for recognizing over-the-top BS. Thank you, and H/T to you for the cognizance.
INRE McCain’s first marriage to Carol. She was married to a shipmate, but they were divorced *before* she and McCain got together to date, let alone marry. So try to keep the tabloid BS down to a dull roar, please.
INRE McCain and Cindy. He rues that himself. And as a military wife of that era, who also got divorced for the stresses of the war on us both, all I can say is I can’t judge a man (McCain) and woman (Carol McCain) who marry before the war, and separate when he returns. Especially a man who was completely altered by his time in the Hanoi Hilton.
You have to remember she was 27 or 28 at the time they married, and McCain a couple of years older. McCain was in the service, and captured two years after their marriage. They didn’t get much time together stateside. By the time he returned, it was 1973. They hadn’t seen each other for almost eight years. They were both completely different people, which I’m here to tell you isn’t unusual for that era.
So I have to say that the “couple of points” you believe Jasmine/David/David101 makes comes from a lack of standing from that era… and from the facts.
Yes, marriages are regretable. But fact is, the things I regret about my generation the most is the fact we don’t marry for the long haul, and that we were great at music, but downright suck at governing the country.
Woooooo Calm down Mata Harley.
Don’t get your undies in a bunch!
This is a free country right?
Or did the republican party also sell our freedom of speech, along with other things to China over the past 8 years?
You now its funny I can tell you are angry.
But for what? Expressing my self?
Are you that Dumb founded, small minded and ignorant that you can’t stand anyone who disagrees with you?
O and my Comment on race baiting was a reasponse to another person who claimed that I AND other Democrats are race-baiting to make African Americans vote Democrat instead of Republican.
As for spam filter……again what spam filter are you talking about???
Anyways it really doesn’t even mater any more!
Obama’s going to win regaurdless of what you claim and smear about him.
And so when Mcain loses by a landslide on Nov 4th.
You can take your war starting, election stealing, fear mongering, rich catering, Hyporcritical, retarded, Iiying-ass , hate-filled, Republican party with you!
And Don’t let the door nob hit ya were the dog should of bitt ya!
Obama/Biden 08!
@voter:
Mata has already addressed the adultery accusation in relation to the first marriage.
I want to add one other point.
Are you aware that John McCain has continued to support his first wife?
Are you aware that he has paid for her continuing medical treatment and expenses related to the car accident she was severely injured in while he was a POW?
You desire to paint John McCain with a very broad brush but while doing that you’re attempting to cover the good of the man as well.
David,
The SPAM filter that Mata was referring to is the one that you are in right now.
You hit the send button but your post didn’t appear here did it?
That’s because you’re in the SPAM filter.
Understand now?
You see now how it works David? Mata dug you out of the Spam filter again. Hence the reason your post is now up at #32
@MataHarley: Actually, I didn’t get my info from a tabloid, it was on google, check it out enter McCains name, and he HAS admitted to extramarital affairS. But, I am 98 percent sure Carol was still with her ex when McCain pursued the relationship. But again not 100 percent. I’m not faulting him for a divorce, God knows people make wrong choices in love, and people change, especially after being in war. But he was with and living with Carol for over a year, before he divorced and then married Cindy less then a month later. Really it doesn’t matter to me, I really don’t care what happens in someone elses love life behind closed doors, thats for the wife to worry about, I was just making a point.
Point noted, Voter. Here’s another one….
I’d like to add to that, in an interview, he was asked if his time as a POW damaged him in a way that contributed to his failed marriage. He said no. He admitted he was “a jerk” and didn’t scapegoat it on any “psychological trauma” suffered from 5-and-a-half years of captivity and torture.
Recently, he and Obama were asked what they considered to be their greatest moral failing. McCain answered it was the failure of his first marriage.
In all this time, McCain has owned up to the fact that he himself was at fault in the failure of his first marriage. I’d say “owning up” to his “moral failing” speaks to the quality of his character.
He’s been married to Cindy for…what? 28 years now? Move on, folks.
His first wife, btw, supports McCain’s presidential run, as do his children from his first marriage.
Jasmine/David/David101 says:
Honey, you haven’t even scratched the surface of my “anger” thermometer” yet. You give yourself far too much credit. I’ve seen gnats that irritate me more.
@Aye Chihuahua: Yes, I am aware he is paying for her medical bills. But as a women who was cheated on by her first husband, he could give my all the money in the world, and it still would not take the pain he caused me, or give me back the years of my life, I was a devoted and attentive wife, while he humiluated me. Like I said in my last post, I don’t really care about his affairs, that is not what my problem with him is. And, the “affair” with Vera Baker, has not been proven, it is a rumor.
@Wordsmith: I hadn”t thought about it like that, owning up to it does speak volumes. But even tho she supports his run, I’m sure doesn’t take the pain away.
Erika, John McCain and Carol’s ex were shipmates. However Carol and John did not pursue a relationship with each other until the divorce was final.
And speaking of that… sometimes relationships are “over” before the court date. I certainly know mine was. But that’s neither here nor there. I am not under the assumption that divorces or affairs are issues that eliminate you from the job of POTUS.
It certainly didn’t appear to be the big thing for Clinton, even tho he lied under oath. It didn’t affect Kennedy. And who knows who else.
One thing about McCain. He is open about his personal martial mistakes with Carol. And those are the only ones he can be apologizing for.
But if I were Obama, I’d be worried about Michelle and the rumours of the island beauty. Still not the reason I don’t like him for POTUS, mind you. But infidelity is just not an uncommon human trait in the past 5 decades or so… know what I mean?
@voter:
I just wanted to point out that you and Jasmine/David were using broad brush strokes that were obscuring some of the details.
Oh, that’s right. Unless you actually see them wallowing ’round with one another then you won’t believe it.
I understand.
@MataHarley: how do you see stuff in spam and pull it out?
Usually, I just close my eyes and pop it in my mouth.
@Aye Chihuahua: I’m really not trying to argue with you, I said the affair thing really means nothing to me, I was just pointing out something. And yes it doesn’t mean anything to me if there is no PROOF. Anyone can say ANYTHING. Even if it were true, just about all politicians cheat. It must be an ego thing. But there is a difference in a one time thing, and a pattern of behavior.
@Wordsmith: what
“How can he help a family he bairly even knows?” (David 101)
He helped is cousin Odinga in Kenya. He went to campaign for him. Odinga a Muslim communist who wanted to install Sharia law in Kenya.
“His father was from Keya but, HIS FATHER WAS NEVER IN HIS LIFE!!!!!!!!!
The last time he met his father was when he was a kid.” (David 101)
So why the he write a book, titled: Dream of my father?
You know what Jasmine, I am ashame to write on the same blog as you. This blog site is starting to stink with more and more people like you wrighting here. I hope that the owners of the blog will see to it. I’ve seen so many good blogs go down the drain after being invaded by hateful leftists. I feel sick just reading your comments.
Word… LOL!
Actually, Erika, as authors, we are logged in differently. We can edit comments, assign comments to be moderated, etc. Also, we can see comments held in moderation, plus comments that end up in the spam filter. Both need attention. Sometimes even my own comments have ended up in the spam filter. LOL Must be keywords the filter has.
But while any of we authors are online and logged in, we generally try to clean out both regularly. Especially since many regulars here find themselves inadvertantly in the moderation/spam section. Sometimes there is no rhyme or reason.
And… occasionally, the spam filter gets it right. There are some comments that are just pure garbage and contribute nothing to the debate.
@David101:
Heh.
That’s some funny stuff right there.
Jasmine/David/David101 once again, you know not of which you speak.
You’ll know when you’ve made Mata mad, and if you still have eyebrows left it hasn’t happened yet.
Wordsmith and Mata:
Make sure to keep your little pet well fed and in it’s cage.
It seems there are a lot of these about these days:
The only way out of the SPAM filter is for one of the Moderators to dig you out.
Done – Aye
Voter, Really? your a Obama supporter?
I didn’t think any other Obamacrats as I like to call myself, came here.
O…. well HI!!!
As for you guys conversation on adultry.
I don’t judge others on there mistakes personaly but, when you guys brought this story of Obama’s family up.
I had to bring up the adultry story with Mcain.
To me if its fair game to talk about Obama’s family.
Then its fair game to talk about Mcians cheating history with his wives.
Lord knows if the shoe was on the other foot, you guys would give Obama an ear full if he had a history of adultry.
O and to Aye Chihuahua
I see I’m in an spam filter but how do I get out?
Obama/Biden 08!
@MataHarley: Thank you, see I was right, you give much info
@Mike’s America:
I know exactly what the cause is too.
The polls are tightening.
The tide is shifting.
What seemed to be such a sure thing is just about to slip away.
We get an influx of vermin every time The One begins to falter.
Tuesday night when McCain wins PA I predict weeping, wailing, and gnashing of teeth.
As Mata likes to say, we’ll all need our swatters at the ready.
@Aye Chihuahua: And when you are wrong?
Mickie! What… done with battle with Chen yet? Actually, I rather like Chen. A worthy adversarial debate, which always results in learning more….
alas… cannot say the same for Jasime/David/David101. She has been consistently empty in all appearances. But she has a talent for cut/paste at least.
Is there going to be a thread to comment on during the election? Someone should create one. That way I can have some fun when Obama sweeps this thing
I think I am done for tonight on FA, Jasmine is off subject and leading everybody nowhere. I have better things to do than to read this bullshit. I will go on NO Quarter blog for tonight, less stupid leftists there, even if it is a Democrat blog.
@voter:
Very seldom.
I engage my brain before engaging my mouth or my keyboard in order to prevent it.
If only everyone had the same sort of self discipline.
“I had to bring up the adultry story with Mcain.”
Mata…. Seems to me your little free moonbat love colony is on another slippery slope!!!
And as for Voter wanting to comment on any election night thread: Not one run by me that is for sure.
Mata can run a chat room for loonies if she wants but not me.
@Aye Chihuahua: I would really like to continue this conversation on tuesday. That is if we can have some friendly fun with it, and call a truce. What do you say.
Dag gum, Erika. You go with your sense of humor, girl! LOL
Actually, Mike’s A usually runs a “chat” forum on event nights. I don’t usually attend because it’s like carrying on a conversation with a mob simultaneously. Too old, I guess….
But I suspect it’s going to be a long night. I don’t see a landslide in either direction in the cards. It will be close, just like the nation’s opinions are pretty evenly split.
Which does have to make you wonder about that “unity” and “healing” stuff, eh? The day this nation “unifies” is the day democracy and free speech are gone. History. It is dissent that makes us who we are.
@MataHarley: Well, Mike A kicked me off a thread, accused me of “threatening someone”, when I was just making a point. So I won’t even look at threads he starts. I was looking forward to alittle fun tho. I like the FRIENDLY debates, and back and forths.
Craig, for the life of me, I just simply don’t understand why you get so worked up over someone whose comments amount to nothing. Simply “ignore”, and drive on. If she’s a time waster, just don’t waste your time. It’s not like she’s holding a cyber gun to your head saying, “You have to read my idiocy and allow me to push your button”.
She has the freedom to be stupid; you have the freedom to laugh at her, or ignore her.
“So I won’t even look at threads he starts. “
Good.
“I like the FRIENDLY debates, and back and forths.”
Yeah… sure you do. That’s why you wanted to threaten Aye’s employment…
Fascist!
voter,
Mike just gets cranky ’cause he’s on IE, fending off trolls all day long.
He seems to attract moonbats over at his blog, like fleas. I don’t know why, but they just love him.
@Wordsmith:
Snicker.
@Wordsmith: What ever it is, he see’s stuff that is not there, I ask Aye where he worked, cuz I was wondering how he could blog at work, and he accussed me of threatening his employment. Makes me wonder what other outlandish things he cooks up and spews in his threads.
Word “da Man”… Mike just likes to attract the extreme trolls to watch you, myself, Aye, Stix and others wage battle. what a voyeur….
My older sissie is like that. Used to cause trouble, then step back and let my bro and I battle it out!
“He seems to attract moonbats over at his blog, like fleas. I don’t know why, but they just love him.”
Actually, it’s been rather quiet. It seems they all gravitated over here to be closer to you Wordsmith!
And as for Voter’s revision of reality, I’ll stand by what I said on that thread…. It was a threat.
@MataHarley: I learned my lesson, I never want a battle with you Mata
@Mike’s America: I’m glad YOUR not in the white house, we’d be in a war with in a week.
GREAT NEWS!
Zogby is showing McCain up 1 point.
Surging among NASCAR fans, blue collar workers and men.
That’s what has caused the ants to swarm tonight.
Don’t count the old warrior out yet ladies and gentlemen.
This is really answering some questions, tho. I can see how you come to some of the conclusions you come to now.
@Aye Chihuahua: where did you get this, I want to check out the site.
@voter:
Well, Mike might be a bit sensitive to potential for abuse because he’s been victim to it, himself by a commenter or two on his blog.
@Wordsmith: Mike and his IE always makes him cranky…
@Wordsmith: Maybe, but you have some experience with me, do you see me threatening someone? I think I am a pretty reasonable person, grant it I may not agree with you guys, but so what, I am respectfull to those that are respectful to me. And I am not the threatening type.
@Aye Chihuahua: Thanks, but is that a partisan poll or non partisan? I’ve never heard of it before.
Voter,
I didn’t really follow that thread; but from what I had glimpsed and what I can glean, your intentions weren’t to cause any harm to Aye.
@Wordsmith: Thanks, I value your opinion.
@voter: Good lesson to learn….Mata is not a mujer you want to go up against unprepared, on either side of the fence.
@Curt:
@voter:
Zogby runs one of the biggest polling organizations out there.
Here’s a Google search and the 1.8 million hits it produced.
@Aye Chihuahua: Thanks, but I don’t see the numbers you said. Am I looking at it wrong? It looks like to me Obama 50 and McCain 43
Erika/voter… INRE your
I’m not sure there is anything that exists as a “non partisan” poll. You ask 1000 or so people… usually mostly DNC vs GOP (or whoever answers the phone and speaks back…) questions that are reformulated. Most polls’ results doesn’t give you the links to the original poll, nor the wording of the questions.
Most polls… other than the most well known like Rasmussen or Zogby, are commissioned (i.e. bought) by an interest group. Therefore they construct the questions.
See what I mean?
I hate polls. I think they are another political trick to “lead”. Most people gauge their opinions by looking around… “am I insane, or does most the rest of the world think like me”, so to speak.
If you have polls that say nothing but one guy over another all the way to election, you have a bunch of voters wondering if they have the wrong perception. You are leading the vote via shepherding.
Frankly, I wish there were no public polls… only internal campaign polls that are not released. But then… I’m always a fan of free speech. Even when I disagree with the messenger, and the message.
@voter: The poll hasn’t been released….drudge is carrying it. So the demographics of those polled are not out either but we can all be sure that as in most polls by Zogby, Dem’s polled will outnumber Rep’s polled.
Either way, this race is tightening…just as in 2004. All the Dem’s were coming to this site gloating about a sweep (sound familiar) and when the exit polls came out they were still gloating.
That went away quite quickly.
Voter: When I was in the White House we were at peace because we were strong. That’s something you libweanies will never understand. Months after I left the Berlin Wall fell down. No thanks to Democrats.
@MataHarley: I see, and last Pres election had Kerry up in double digits, and he lost. It’s really the state by state we should be looking at, right? Since its the electoral votes that count.
@voter:
In reference to the Drudge link that I gave you, Matt often “teases” a story early. He’ll post a snippet of info concerning a big story that is coming.
The numbers that I cited were for one day of polling (Friday). Rolling averages will be a bit different. The full details will be released tomorrow at some point.
The last election did indeed have Kerry up by double digits. He was also up in multiple “swing” states thus leading the Media machine to call it for him early.
Carter and Dukakis were up as well. You cannot rely on polling data as an assurance of victory especially when the polls are all over the board and the internals are so out of whack. The pollsters this year are trying to calculate in assumptions that have never proven to be real historically.
The state polling is where the attention needs to be focused because, as you said, the Electoral College is what ultimately drives the victory.
Still haven’t gotten an answer from Aye, truce? Anyways, I’ll be seeing you guys, going to bed. Sweet dreams of an Obama Presidency. lol
Erika/voter… INRE your
In one way way, yes… the electoral college is the deciding factor since our Presidential elections are really 50 different state elections combined.
That, however, doesn’t mean that polls… whether prior to voting, or the “exit polls”… can’t be totally off kilter.
Now Mike’sA? He’s the resident FA poll expert here. I don’t dabble in his arena as he’s got the first hand, behind the scenes campaign experience. I know when I’m outclassed in knowledge…. :0)
After a certain time, Mike places faith in polls. But I’m not sure what his criteria is.
Me? The only poll that matters is election day. And I’m content not hang on every media report of a poll prior, but to wait until Nov 5th for the actual results. Hang, they might as well tell me to bet on red #5 at the roulette table….
well if you want to spread the wealth, and lowering income gap ,
vote for obama. he’s right person … for american value …
but if you’re rich then vote for mccain, lol
@brandon alan scofield:
Hi brandon,
Obama’s economic instincts appear to be that he would favor policies which would prevent the lower and middle class from ever rising to the level of “wealthy”.
You might be interested to know this:
Democrat fat cats have become the Party of the Ultra-wealthy.
As you say….”lol”
Wordsmith wrote :
More than three quarters of those worth $1 million to $10 million plan to vote for Sen. McCain. Only 15% plan to vote for Sen. Obama (the rest are undecided). Of those worth more than $30 million, two-thirds support Sen. Obama, while one third support Sen. McCain.
Wordsmith , I don’t know what to say, it shock me ! I think super rich vote for obama , cause they want something from him, the questionis what will Obama give to them ? gimme a reply Wordsmith
I wonder what percentage of the remaining 25% that will vote Obama are Hollywood or Rockefeller center types, media news, TV/movie actors, recording artists, and other politically clueless entertainers?
@brandon alan scofield:
They will want to be close to the president, rub elbows with the power of the presidency, in with the in crowd. Obama’s political history has shown that he can be influenced, unlike McCain. McCain wouldn’t be welcoming them into the glitz of the White House parties, he’s frugal with the people’s money, Obama is a big spender and will do the opposite.