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		<title>By: Not Telling</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/10/24/robbing-from-the-poor-giving-to-the-rich/#comment-124187</link>
		<dc:creator>Not Telling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 20:55:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama made the shocking statement that the United States “cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we’ve set.... we’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, and just as well-funded.”  Obama has yet to explain what he meant by that comment, how it would be funded, or what the duties of the “security force” would be.  It does bring to mind something Hugo Chavez or Kim Jong Il might imagine, however.

http://www.colony14.net/id35.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Obama made the shocking statement that the United States “cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we’ve set&#8230;. we’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, and just as well-funded.”  Obama has yet to explain what he meant by that comment, how it would be funded, or what the duties of the “security force” would be.  It does bring to mind something Hugo Chavez or Kim Jong Il might imagine, however.</p>
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		<title>By: Not Telling</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/10/24/robbing-from-the-poor-giving-to-the-rich/#comment-124186</link>
		<dc:creator>Not Telling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 20:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama supports what is called a “comparable worth” plan to “eliminate pay discrimination.” Under the plan (legislation has already been proposed in Congress, but has not been voted on because Bush or McCain would veto it), the government would define the “worth” of every job classification in the United States. A first-grade teacher might, for example, be “worth” 82.3 per cent of a long-haul truck driver, while that truck driver might be “worth” 75.4 per cent of an electrical engineer. The “idea” is that all businesses would be required to follow the scheme, eliminating pay discrimination for sex or race (or any other criteria). In practice, this would be a tremendous mess, requiring an enormous bureaucracy, and lawsuits would be filed by the millions. Obama’s lawyer buddies would love it. (No word yet on what the lawyers would be “worth” under the plan – but they’d probably be somewhere between Bill Gates and Oprah if they write the legislation.)

More of &#039;What you don&#039;t know about Economics could hurt you&quot; at: 
http://www.colony14.net/id53.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Obama supports what is called a “comparable worth” plan to “eliminate pay discrimination.” Under the plan (legislation has already been proposed in Congress, but has not been voted on because Bush or McCain would veto it), the government would define the “worth” of every job classification in the United States. A first-grade teacher might, for example, be “worth” 82.3 per cent of a long-haul truck driver, while that truck driver might be “worth” 75.4 per cent of an electrical engineer. The “idea” is that all businesses would be required to follow the scheme, eliminating pay discrimination for sex or race (or any other criteria). In practice, this would be a tremendous mess, requiring an enormous bureaucracy, and lawsuits would be filed by the millions. Obama’s lawyer buddies would love it. (No word yet on what the lawyers would be “worth” under the plan – but they’d probably be somewhere between Bill Gates and Oprah if they write the legislation.)</p>
<p>More of &#8216;What you don&#8217;t know about Economics could hurt you&#8221; at:<br />
<a href="http://www.colony14.net/id53.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.colony14.net/id53.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Distinguishing McCain from Obama &#171; Just Americans Making Ethical Statements Weblog</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/10/24/robbing-from-the-poor-giving-to-the-rich/#comment-124176</link>
		<dc:creator>Distinguishing McCain from Obama &#171; Just Americans Making Ethical Statements Weblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 20:18:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] restated a desire to redistribute the wealth in America. This is exactly the wrong approach. Even a basic level of understanding about economics would act as a bar against trying to tax our way out of the current financial crisis. You don’t [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Americans Might Want To Heed the Admonitions of The Past Regarding Election &#171; ZachJonesIsHome - Helping to Keep an Eye on the Larry Sinclair Allegations</title>
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		<dc:creator>Americans Might Want To Heed the Admonitions of The Past Regarding Election &#171; ZachJonesIsHome - Helping to Keep an Eye on the Larry Sinclair Allegations</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 12:47:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] restated a desire to redistribute the wealth in America. This is exactly the wrong approach. Even a basic level of understanding about economics would act as a bar against trying to tax our way out of the current financial crisis. You don’t [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Always On Watch</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/10/24/robbing-from-the-poor-giving-to-the-rich/#comment-124055</link>
		<dc:creator>Always On Watch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 10:07:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps one reason so many people are susceptible to the idea of the rich paying more taxes is that so many people don&#039;t grasp the concept of percentage.

Yes, I know that my statement seems farfetched.

But, as a teacher, I run into many PARENTS who don&#039;t have even a basic grasp of the underlying principle as to how percentage works.

Of course, the very concept of progressive taxation (graduated tax) is a form of wealth redistribution.  A flat tax is equitable.  That said, I&#039;m of the belief that we should have a flat tax with few possible deductions and even fewer loopholes, i.e., tax shelters.  Furthermore, if withholding were no longer used, people would have a better idea as to just how much IRS is soaking them.  Imagine taking home your entire paycheck, then having to shell out every quarter (what I do as a self-employed individual).

Excellent post, BTW.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Perhaps one reason so many people are susceptible to the idea of the rich paying more taxes is that so many people don&#8217;t grasp the concept of percentage.</p>
<p>Yes, I know that my statement seems farfetched.</p>
<p>But, as a teacher, I run into many PARENTS who don&#8217;t have even a basic grasp of the underlying principle as to how percentage works.</p>
<p>Of course, the very concept of progressive taxation (graduated tax) is a form of wealth redistribution.  A flat tax is equitable.  That said, I&#8217;m of the belief that we should have a flat tax with few possible deductions and even fewer loopholes, i.e., tax shelters.  Furthermore, if withholding were no longer used, people would have a better idea as to just how much IRS is soaking them.  Imagine taking home your entire paycheck, then having to shell out every quarter (what I do as a self-employed individual).</p>
<p>Excellent post, BTW.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/10/24/robbing-from-the-poor-giving-to-the-rich/#comment-124001</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 04:00:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>October 24, 2008

Barney Frank Calls for Major Defense Cuts, &#039;Eventual&#039; Tax Hike 

Rep. Barney Frank (D-Mass.) said Democrats will push for a stimulus package after the November election, and called for a package reducing defense spending by 25 percent while saying Congress will &quot;eventually&quot; raise taxes.

Read the rest:
http://briefingroom.thehill.com/2008/10/24/frank-calls-for-25-percent-cut-in-defense-spending-eventual-tax-hikes/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>October 24, 2008</p>
<p>Barney Frank Calls for Major Defense Cuts, &#8216;Eventual&#8217; Tax Hike </p>
<p>Rep. Barney Frank (D-Mass.) said Democrats will push for a stimulus package after the November election, and called for a package reducing defense spending by 25 percent while saying Congress will &#8220;eventually&#8221; raise taxes.</p>
<p>Read the rest:<br />
<a href="http://briefingroom.thehill.com/2008/10/24/frank-calls-for-25-percent-cut-in-defense-spending-eventual-tax-hikes/" rel="nofollow">http://briefingroom.thehill.com/2008/10/24/frank-calls-for-25-percent-cut-in-defense-spending-eventual-tax-hikes/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Wisdom</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/10/24/robbing-from-the-poor-giving-to-the-rich/#comment-123984</link>
		<dc:creator>Wisdom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 01:53:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Found this one on dncreform.com -- great analogy.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Perfect Explination Why NOT to Vote for Obama 
WHAT IS A CONSERVATIVE? ~ A young woman was about to finish her first year of college. Like so many others her age, she considered herself to be a very liberal Democrat, and among other liberal ideals, was very much in favor of higher taxes to support more government programs, in other words redistribution of wealth. She was deeply ashamed that her father was a rather staunch Republican, a feeling she openly expressed.

Based on the lectures that she had participated in and the occasional chat with a professor, she felt that her father had for years harbored an evil, selfish desire to keep what he thought should be his. One day she was challenging her father on his opposition to higher taxes on the rich and the need for more government programs. The self-professed objectivity proclaimed by her professors had to be the truth and she indicated so to her father.

He responded by asking how she was doing in school. Taken aback, she answered rather haughtily that she had a 4.0 GPA, and let him know that it was tough to maintain, insisting that she was taking a very difficult course load and was constantly studying, which left her no time to go out and party like other people she knew. She didn&#039;t even have time for a boyfriend, and didn&#039;t really have many college friends because she spent all her time studying.

Her father listened and then asked, &#039;How is your friend Audrey doing?&#039; She replied, &#039;Audrey is barely getting by. All she takes are easy classes, she never studies, and she barely has a 2.0 GPA. She is so popular on Campus; college for her is a blast. She&#039;s always invited to all the parties and lots of times she doesn&#039;t even show up for classes because she&#039;s too hung over.&#039;

Her wise father asked his daughter, &#039;Why don&#039;t you go to the Dean&#039;s Office and ask him to deduct 1.0 off your GPA and give it to your friend who only has a 2.0. That way you will both have a 3.0 GPA and certainly that would be a fair and equal distribution of GPA.&#039; The daughter, visibly shocked by her father&#039;s suggestion, angrily fired back,

&#039;That&#039;s a crazy idea, and how would that be fair! I&#039;ve worked really hard for my grades! I&#039;ve invested a lot of time, and a lot of hard work! Audrey has done next to nothing toward her degree. She played while I worked my tail off!&#039; The father slowly smiled, winked and said gently, &#039;Welcome to the Republican Party.&#039;

Thank you to wildkats for providing this. &lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Found this one on dncreform.com &#8212; great analogy.</p>
<blockquote><p>Perfect Explination Why NOT to Vote for Obama<br />
WHAT IS A CONSERVATIVE? ~ A young woman was about to finish her first year of college. Like so many others her age, she considered herself to be a very liberal Democrat, and among other liberal ideals, was very much in favor of higher taxes to support more government programs, in other words redistribution of wealth. She was deeply ashamed that her father was a rather staunch Republican, a feeling she openly expressed.</p>
<p>Based on the lectures that she had participated in and the occasional chat with a professor, she felt that her father had for years harbored an evil, selfish desire to keep what he thought should be his. One day she was challenging her father on his opposition to higher taxes on the rich and the need for more government programs. The self-professed objectivity proclaimed by her professors had to be the truth and she indicated so to her father.</p>
<p>He responded by asking how she was doing in school. Taken aback, she answered rather haughtily that she had a 4.0 GPA, and let him know that it was tough to maintain, insisting that she was taking a very difficult course load and was constantly studying, which left her no time to go out and party like other people she knew. She didn&#8217;t even have time for a boyfriend, and didn&#8217;t really have many college friends because she spent all her time studying.</p>
<p>Her father listened and then asked, &#8216;How is your friend Audrey doing?&#8217; She replied, &#8216;Audrey is barely getting by. All she takes are easy classes, she never studies, and she barely has a 2.0 GPA. She is so popular on Campus; college for her is a blast. She&#8217;s always invited to all the parties and lots of times she doesn&#8217;t even show up for classes because she&#8217;s too hung over.&#8217;</p>
<p>Her wise father asked his daughter, &#8216;Why don&#8217;t you go to the Dean&#8217;s Office and ask him to deduct 1.0 off your GPA and give it to your friend who only has a 2.0. That way you will both have a 3.0 GPA and certainly that would be a fair and equal distribution of GPA.&#8217; The daughter, visibly shocked by her father&#8217;s suggestion, angrily fired back,</p>
<p>&#8216;That&#8217;s a crazy idea, and how would that be fair! I&#8217;ve worked really hard for my grades! I&#8217;ve invested a lot of time, and a lot of hard work! Audrey has done next to nothing toward her degree. She played while I worked my tail off!&#8217; The father slowly smiled, winked and said gently, &#8216;Welcome to the Republican Party.&#8217;</p>
<p>Thank you to wildkats for providing this. </p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 00:23:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kitty,

I like that story.   That was very smart of you.   It is so simple to teach young children common sense.    I wonder why teachers fails at it.    Could it be that they are leftists... lol?

Hard Right,

&quot;Despite the fact it has been proven not to work, they still insist on pushing such an agenda under the fantasy all will be well when only the people they feel should have guns posses them. (Police, military, govt. agents)&quot; (Hard Right)

The thing is that here in Canada it works like that.   But the inconvenient truth is that all criminals have guns.   So if they walk into your houses, you&#039;re done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Kitty,</p>
<p>I like that story.   That was very smart of you.   It is so simple to teach young children common sense.    I wonder why teachers fails at it.    Could it be that they are leftists&#8230; lol?</p>
<p>Hard Right,</p>
<p>&#8220;Despite the fact it has been proven not to work, they still insist on pushing such an agenda under the fantasy all will be well when only the people they feel should have guns posses them. (Police, military, govt. agents)&#8221; (Hard Right)</p>
<p>The thing is that here in Canada it works like that.   But the inconvenient truth is that all criminals have guns.   So if they walk into your houses, you&#8217;re done.</p>
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		<title>By: MataHarley</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/10/24/robbing-from-the-poor-giving-to-the-rich/#comment-123876</link>
		<dc:creator>MataHarley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 20:18:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kitty #2.... *priceless*!!!!  LOL

Sure hope you&#039;re a public school teacher, girl....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Kitty #2&#8230;. *priceless*!!!!  LOL</p>
<p>Sure hope you&#8217;re a public school teacher, girl&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Rush Limbaugh Fox &#38; Friends 24 Oct 2008 &#124; BigMouthFrog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rush Limbaugh Fox &#38; Friends 24 Oct 2008 &#124; BigMouthFrog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 17:06:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] was on the Fox &amp; Friends show this morning to cheer up the Republican base.    I&#8217;ll just put up the video and let you take away what you [...]</description>
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