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	<title>Comments on: Violence Against McCain Supporters Mounts &#8211; Update: Attack Bogus</title>
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		<title>By: suek</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/10/23/violence-against-mccain-supporters-mounts/#comment-123903</link>
		<dc:creator>suek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 21:44:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;Truth is the first casualty of the Alinsky radical school of campaigning&gt;&gt;

Are you familiar with the principle of taqiyeh in islam?  When the Iraq conflict began, I started learning about terrorism and islam, and I must say that this particular concept really disturbed me.  The reason is the same as that which you point out about the Alinsky principles - they simply have no requirement to be truthful.  Once you recognize that, it means that any relationship with that person is totally destroyed - because you cannot trust _anything_ that they say.  There maybe good truthful people among them, but because you know that lying is culturally an ok thing, you cannot trust anybody.  The effects are extremely corrosive, imo.  

&quot;Verify.  Do not trust&quot;  has to be the name of the game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>&gt;&gt;Truth is the first casualty of the Alinsky radical school of campaigning&gt;&gt;</p>
<p>Are you familiar with the principle of taqiyeh in islam?  When the Iraq conflict began, I started learning about terrorism and islam, and I must say that this particular concept really disturbed me.  The reason is the same as that which you point out about the Alinsky principles &#8211; they simply have no requirement to be truthful.  Once you recognize that, it means that any relationship with that person is totally destroyed &#8211; because you cannot trust _anything_ that they say.  There maybe good truthful people among them, but because you know that lying is culturally an ok thing, you cannot trust anybody.  The effects are extremely corrosive, imo.  </p>
<p>&#8220;Verify.  Do not trust&#8221;  has to be the name of the game.</p>
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		<title>By: Custer</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/10/23/violence-against-mccain-supporters-mounts/#comment-123872</link>
		<dc:creator>Custer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 20:06:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t wanna give this girl to much credit... but, do you think it possible she staged this whole thing as an Obama supporter saying shes a McCain support with the idea to &quot;come clean&quot; and discredit Republicans? Cause, sounds like something that would happen to be honest.

I doubt it, but just fishing for some convo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>I don&#8217;t wanna give this girl to much credit&#8230; but, do you think it possible she staged this whole thing as an Obama supporter saying shes a McCain support with the idea to &#8220;come clean&#8221; and discredit Republicans? Cause, sounds like something that would happen to be honest.</p>
<p>I doubt it, but just fishing for some convo.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike's America</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/10/23/violence-against-mccain-supporters-mounts/#comment-123863</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike's America</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 19:44:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep.... already posted on it Abe. Unfortunately, I am STILL waiting for Dems to retract the garbage they have put out about McCain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Yep&#8230;. already posted on it Abe. Unfortunately, I am STILL waiting for Dems to retract the garbage they have put out about McCain.</p>
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		<title>By: Honest Abe</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/10/23/violence-against-mccain-supporters-mounts/#comment-123848</link>
		<dc:creator>Honest Abe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 18:45:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like you need to retract this one since she LIED and you bought it - hook line and sinker.

Just another LIE traded and spread.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Looks like you need to retract this one since she LIED and you bought it &#8211; hook line and sinker.</p>
<p>Just another LIE traded and spread.</p>
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		<title>By: voter</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/10/23/violence-against-mccain-supporters-mounts/#comment-123843</link>
		<dc:creator>voter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 18:03:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On her my space she says 

How will you die?  

My result:  political assassination

May not mean anything, or could.  I&#039;m glad she confessed to making it up.  And I hope they make an example of her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>On her my space she says </p>
<p>How will you die?  </p>
<p>My result:  political assassination</p>
<p>May not mean anything, or could.  I&#8217;m glad she confessed to making it up.  And I hope they make an example of her.</p>
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		<title>By: MataHarley</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/10/23/violence-against-mccain-supporters-mounts/#comment-123838</link>
		<dc:creator>MataHarley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 17:38:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t get me wrong, Mike.  She may indeed be one screwed up McCain supporter.  In which case she is just as despicable as those with similar behavior from the other camp.

But if she is proven to be a pathelogical liar, one must wonder what her intents actually are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Don&#8217;t get me wrong, Mike.  She may indeed be one screwed up McCain supporter.  In which case she is just as despicable as those with similar behavior from the other camp.</p>
<p>But if she is proven to be a pathelogical liar, one must wonder what her intents actually are.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike's America</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/10/23/violence-against-mccain-supporters-mounts/#comment-123819</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike's America</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 16:25:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mata: You may be on to something. What better way to discount the ugly truths of attacks and racist vandalism against GOP persons or property than stage an easily discovered fraud.

The way the B was carved bothers me too and I guess  we will wait to see what the police have to say about it.

Meanwhile, have the hordes of lefty bloggers who are screaming &quot;foul&quot; here ever denounced the clear violence we have already witnessed?

And let&#039;s not forget the investigation that Joe the Plumber and his family underwent for daring to criticize &quot;the one.&quot;

If the same standards of veracity and level of investigative intensity were applied to Obama&#039;s links to Ayers, Wright, Rezko et al I wouldn&#039;t be complaining.... but we all know the rules are different if you are a black man running for the most powerful job on earth.

Truth is the first casualty of the Alinsky radical school of campaigning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Mata: You may be on to something. What better way to discount the ugly truths of attacks and racist vandalism against GOP persons or property than stage an easily discovered fraud.</p>
<p>The way the B was carved bothers me too and I guess  we will wait to see what the police have to say about it.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, have the hordes of lefty bloggers who are screaming &#8220;foul&#8221; here ever denounced the clear violence we have already witnessed?</p>
<p>And let&#8217;s not forget the investigation that Joe the Plumber and his family underwent for daring to criticize &#8220;the one.&#8221;</p>
<p>If the same standards of veracity and level of investigative intensity were applied to Obama&#8217;s links to Ayers, Wright, Rezko et al I wouldn&#8217;t be complaining&#8230;. but we all know the rules are different if you are a black man running for the most powerful job on earth.</p>
<p>Truth is the first casualty of the Alinsky radical school of campaigning.</p>
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		<title>By: MataHarley</title>
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		<dc:creator>MataHarley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 15:49:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Leah, on a hypothical, I think think of many ways that... if someone hit me on the back of the head and I fell face first... that one could have a knee in my back, pull my head up by my hair and put a knife to my face.

If I had a blade at my cheek, would my instincts be to move my head back and forth.  uh... nope.

That said, I&#039;m with the cynics here at this point.  We&#039;re all programmed to assume that local news stations or media are actually reporting violent crimes with some degree of accuracy.  Guess we still haven&#039;t learned that it&#039;s fallen so far, it&#039;s like reading fiction daily.

Since the young woman believes &lt;i&gt;“Lying is the most fun a girl can have without taking her cloths off....” &lt;/i&gt;, my first question after discovering her accusation is false is....  &lt;b&gt;is she really a McCain supporter?&lt;/b&gt;

Or is she an Obama supporter, pretending to be a racist McCain supporter?  Remember the Obama/Alinsky campaign/community organizer playbook.  Or, as an old Time Magazine profile of Alinsky said: 

&lt;blockquote&gt;“In his [Alinsky’s] view, the end of achieving power justifies a range of means…If the occasion requires, &lt;b&gt;Alinsky’s forces will not refrain from spreading rumors about an antagonist or indulging in something that comes very close to blackmail.”&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

So the questions genuinely are, is she telling the truth about an assault?  Or is she seeking attention to engage in political smears?  And just whom is she *really* trying to smear?

No matter what, this is one kid that&#039;s hard for a momma to be proud of....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Leah, on a hypothical, I think think of many ways that&#8230; if someone hit me on the back of the head and I fell face first&#8230; that one could have a knee in my back, pull my head up by my hair and put a knife to my face.</p>
<p>If I had a blade at my cheek, would my instincts be to move my head back and forth.  uh&#8230; nope.</p>
<p>That said, I&#8217;m with the cynics here at this point.  We&#8217;re all programmed to assume that local news stations or media are actually reporting violent crimes with some degree of accuracy.  Guess we still haven&#8217;t learned that it&#8217;s fallen so far, it&#8217;s like reading fiction daily.</p>
<p>Since the young woman believes <i>“Lying is the most fun a girl can have without taking her cloths off&#8230;.” </i>, my first question after discovering her accusation is false is&#8230;.  <b>is she really a McCain supporter?</b></p>
<p>Or is she an Obama supporter, pretending to be a racist McCain supporter?  Remember the Obama/Alinsky campaign/community organizer playbook.  Or, as an old Time Magazine profile of Alinsky said: </p>
<blockquote><p>“In his [Alinsky’s] view, the end of achieving power justifies a range of means…If the occasion requires, <b>Alinsky’s forces will not refrain from spreading rumors about an antagonist or indulging in something that comes very close to blackmail.”</b></p></blockquote>
<p>So the questions genuinely are, is she telling the truth about an assault?  Or is she seeking attention to engage in political smears?  And just whom is she *really* trying to smear?</p>
<p>No matter what, this is one kid that&#8217;s hard for a momma to be proud of&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: jobeth44</title>
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		<dc:creator>jobeth44</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 15:17:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*BJR

Unfortunately, we only have all the REGISTERED guns....They have all the UNREGISTERED guns.
Guess whos guns get confiscated when we lose our gun rights.

Sad isn&#039;t it.</description>
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<p>Unfortunately, we only have all the REGISTERED guns&#8230;.They have all the UNREGISTERED guns.<br />
Guess whos guns get confiscated when we lose our gun rights.</p>
<p>Sad isn&#8217;t it.</p>
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		<title>By: BJR</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/10/23/violence-against-mccain-supporters-mounts/#comment-123742</link>
		<dc:creator>BJR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 11:22:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When is the left going to realize, we have all the guns. If this isn&#039;t a great reason for conceal carry I don&#039;t know what is.

But alas, no telling if it is a real story or not, as others mentioned in there responses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>When is the left going to realize, we have all the guns. If this isn&#8217;t a great reason for conceal carry I don&#8217;t know what is.</p>
<p>But alas, no telling if it is a real story or not, as others mentioned in there responses.</p>
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