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		<title>By: Mike's America</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/10/21/free-joe-biden/#comment-123368</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike's America</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 02:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to sum up: I am one of Craig&#039;s southerly neighbors; living in South Carolina. I have had the chance to discuss my concerns with McCain in person and at some length. I&#039;ve also had the opportunity to work on several statewide campaigns and in the White House Political Office during a succesful nationwide campaign.

L.M&#039;s  view of McCain and what is or is not an effective campaign is deeply flawed.

Let me know when those voters repulsed by McCain&#039;s attacks object to the character assasination of Sarah Palin and then we can talk.

Until then, it&#039;s all B.S.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Just to sum up: I am one of Craig&#8217;s southerly neighbors; living in South Carolina. I have had the chance to discuss my concerns with McCain in person and at some length. I&#8217;ve also had the opportunity to work on several statewide campaigns and in the White House Political Office during a succesful nationwide campaign.</p>
<p>L.M&#8217;s  view of McCain and what is or is not an effective campaign is deeply flawed.</p>
<p>Let me know when those voters repulsed by McCain&#8217;s attacks object to the character assasination of Sarah Palin and then we can talk.</p>
<p>Until then, it&#8217;s all B.S.</p>
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		<title>By: Love McCain</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/10/21/free-joe-biden/#comment-123365</link>
		<dc:creator>Love McCain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 02:17:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the offer to hang around but no thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Thanks for the offer to hang around but no thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Aye Chihuahua</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/10/21/free-joe-biden/#comment-123304</link>
		<dc:creator>Aye Chihuahua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 23:02:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-123301&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Love McCain&lt;/a&gt;: 

No need to dash off to another sandbox.

Craig is a citizen of Canada and, unfortunately, was not a voter that ACORN registered.  Sometimes he comes across a little bit harsh but if you read all of his posts you will see that he wants the very best for his southerly neighbor.

There are others of us here who are not completely sold on McCain.

I see McCain winning this thing.  He has always been known as a strong closer.  BO has not been able to close the sale.  From his Greek temple speech in Denver his numbers have been relatively stable.  He just cannot get it done.

McCain, on the other hand, is doing what he needs to do to get to the finish line.

If you watch the polls, the trend lines are what is important.  The polls are trending in McCain&#039;s favor.

This election will come down to turn out.  Plain and simple.

The Left thinks that there will be a landslide.  I don&#039;t think that&#039;s based in reality.  They&#039;re getting nervous out there.  Their actions are showing it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>@<a href="#comment-123301" rel="nofollow">Love McCain</a>: </p>
<p>No need to dash off to another sandbox.</p>
<p>Craig is a citizen of Canada and, unfortunately, was not a voter that ACORN registered.  Sometimes he comes across a little bit harsh but if you read all of his posts you will see that he wants the very best for his southerly neighbor.</p>
<p>There are others of us here who are not completely sold on McCain.</p>
<p>I see McCain winning this thing.  He has always been known as a strong closer.  BO has not been able to close the sale.  From his Greek temple speech in Denver his numbers have been relatively stable.  He just cannot get it done.</p>
<p>McCain, on the other hand, is doing what he needs to do to get to the finish line.</p>
<p>If you watch the polls, the trend lines are what is important.  The polls are trending in McCain&#8217;s favor.</p>
<p>This election will come down to turn out.  Plain and simple.</p>
<p>The Left thinks that there will be a landslide.  I don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s based in reality.  They&#8217;re getting nervous out there.  Their actions are showing it.</p>
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		<title>By: Love McCain</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/10/21/free-joe-biden/#comment-123301</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 22:54:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will leave with this last remark since you guys aren’t getting it and find someone else with my views. I appreciate what all you guys do, but you&#039;ve just made my point. Instead of trying to get the middle to understand what would be best for them you jump at anyone that might actually see what it would take for McCain to win. I didn&#039;t say that republicans shouldn&#039;t rebuke Obama with his own slanderous stuff but that McCain should do what he does best and let everyone else do what they do best I.E. Rush. If we stay narrow this will slip away. McCain needs people to bring home the middle, what are you doing to help? We already have the base lit. Spread the fire.

As far as Manipulator and leftist and obsessed by the Messiah. Dude I hope you can lead better than that because were going to need it to winnnnnnnnnnnn.

P.S. I am sure that McCain will make Obama eat his own words.

Note: this is written with restraint.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>I will leave with this last remark since you guys aren’t getting it and find someone else with my views. I appreciate what all you guys do, but you&#8217;ve just made my point. Instead of trying to get the middle to understand what would be best for them you jump at anyone that might actually see what it would take for McCain to win. I didn&#8217;t say that republicans shouldn&#8217;t rebuke Obama with his own slanderous stuff but that McCain should do what he does best and let everyone else do what they do best I.E. Rush. If we stay narrow this will slip away. McCain needs people to bring home the middle, what are you doing to help? We already have the base lit. Spread the fire.</p>
<p>As far as Manipulator and leftist and obsessed by the Messiah. Dude I hope you can lead better than that because were going to need it to winnnnnnnnnnnn.</p>
<p>P.S. I am sure that McCain will make Obama eat his own words.</p>
<p>Note: this is written with restraint.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/10/21/free-joe-biden/#comment-123291</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 22:06:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow!   &quot;Love McCain&quot; is a bigger manipulator than Obama.   I don&#039;t believe for a minute that this person likes McCain.    Don&#039;t be fool by this obvious manipulator.   He or she his just another leftist obsessed by the Messiah.   You are not fooling me &quot;Love McCain&quot;, I see you coming with your heavy horse clogs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Wow!   &#8220;Love McCain&#8221; is a bigger manipulator than Obama.   I don&#8217;t believe for a minute that this person likes McCain.    Don&#8217;t be fool by this obvious manipulator.   He or she his just another leftist obsessed by the Messiah.   You are not fooling me &#8220;Love McCain&#8221;, I see you coming with your heavy horse clogs.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike's America</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/10/21/free-joe-biden/#comment-123282</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike's America</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 21:36:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So what you are saying is that if you are inclined to vote for Obama you don&#039;t care if he and his supporters unleashed a hate campaign against Republicans but if you are a inclined to vote for McCain you might vote for Obama because you are repulsed by questions on Obama&#039;s character and experience?

That just does not make sense!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>So what you are saying is that if you are inclined to vote for Obama you don&#8217;t care if he and his supporters unleashed a hate campaign against Republicans but if you are a inclined to vote for McCain you might vote for Obama because you are repulsed by questions on Obama&#8217;s character and experience?</p>
<p>That just does not make sense!</p>
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		<title>By: Love McCain</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/10/21/free-joe-biden/#comment-123275</link>
		<dc:creator>Love McCain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 21:26:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>M. A. I never said that the middle ground is not repelled by both sides of attacks, that is why they are still middle ground. The Democrats have been successful against Bush because he is just unpopular with most now, albeit not until the last 2 years and wrongfully blame Bush for the economic crises were now in, and it’s true they have attached McCain to all this. The stats that show McCain voting with Bush 90% of the time do hurt. That’s why I suggested the things I did previously in regards to Bush. I would venture to say Democrats have slipped, by attacking Joe and hope this will help McCain. You already know how I feel about Sarah Palin so there is not much to say but hopefully the respondents to her and Sarah herself can make a better stand now that she is getting more exposure. As far as having a bias against negative campaigning I am guilty as charged. Yet we all know that it is going to happen, it is what perks our ears up and listen and to take a better/longer look, but you don&#039;t beat a dead horse. I&#039;m not suggesting that Obama is the horse or McCain but that when McCain attacks, he attacks at those things he is good at. McCain can give better than he gets, Listen to him speak and look at the audience when he brings up sharing the wealth, when he talks about the American dream and job creation, when he talks about reform. McCain gets everybody’s attention and as soon as he brings up old news that’s going nowhere, people fall off. I&#039;ll try and give an example short version; he talks about Ayers its old news people fall off, McCain talks about his Experience people can’t wait to jump on. Keep in mind I am only talking about the middle and the people McCain needs I think to win.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>M. A. I never said that the middle ground is not repelled by both sides of attacks, that is why they are still middle ground. The Democrats have been successful against Bush because he is just unpopular with most now, albeit not until the last 2 years and wrongfully blame Bush for the economic crises were now in, and it’s true they have attached McCain to all this. The stats that show McCain voting with Bush 90% of the time do hurt. That’s why I suggested the things I did previously in regards to Bush. I would venture to say Democrats have slipped, by attacking Joe and hope this will help McCain. You already know how I feel about Sarah Palin so there is not much to say but hopefully the respondents to her and Sarah herself can make a better stand now that she is getting more exposure. As far as having a bias against negative campaigning I am guilty as charged. Yet we all know that it is going to happen, it is what perks our ears up and listen and to take a better/longer look, but you don&#8217;t beat a dead horse. I&#8217;m not suggesting that Obama is the horse or McCain but that when McCain attacks, he attacks at those things he is good at. McCain can give better than he gets, Listen to him speak and look at the audience when he brings up sharing the wealth, when he talks about the American dream and job creation, when he talks about reform. McCain gets everybody’s attention and as soon as he brings up old news that’s going nowhere, people fall off. I&#8217;ll try and give an example short version; he talks about Ayers its old news people fall off, McCain talks about his Experience people can’t wait to jump on. Keep in mind I am only talking about the middle and the people McCain needs I think to win.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike's America</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/10/21/free-joe-biden/#comment-123228</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike's America</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 19:42:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>L.M. If it were true that the middle ground voter is repelled by personal attacks then why have Democrats been so succesful in waging nothing but a campaign of hate directed at Bush for 8 years and now at McCain?

Why has the character assasination directed at Sarah Palin and now Joe the Plumber been so effective as a campaign tool by Democrats if Independents and moderates despise those tactics?

Your theory in regards to this campaign reveals a media induced bias against negative campaigning. A bias that is NEVER directed at the masters of the politics of personal destruction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>L.M. If it were true that the middle ground voter is repelled by personal attacks then why have Democrats been so succesful in waging nothing but a campaign of hate directed at Bush for 8 years and now at McCain?</p>
<p>Why has the character assasination directed at Sarah Palin and now Joe the Plumber been so effective as a campaign tool by Democrats if Independents and moderates despise those tactics?</p>
<p>Your theory in regards to this campaign reveals a media induced bias against negative campaigning. A bias that is NEVER directed at the masters of the politics of personal destruction.</p>
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		<title>By: Love McCain</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/10/21/free-joe-biden/#comment-123179</link>
		<dc:creator>Love McCain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 16:48:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>a lot here but there is not much else I can say.
it seems to me and I am sure that you will let me know that the fight is for the people in the middle to get their votes. I re-read my replies and see that I did not make any suggestions, just in my view some clear observations. I do believe that McCain should have aggressively campaigned from the beginning the way I think McCain would have because I don&#039;t think he is anybodies pushover, and by the way he is doing now. But come on McCain is bigger and stronger than any flinging going on out there with his  record which seems to me that the people who are down the middle want to hear more of, which he has plenty. We have plenty of respondents to cut short the things like Senator Kerry is joking about. The fight is not for the republicans who will vote for him already but for those who again are down the middle. What can we say to them, don’t vote for Obama because his middle name is Hussein or that he pals around with Ayers or that Obama is green, because if I were in the middle I would think wow a green guy is holding his own against one of our best, that we’ve been talking about Ayers forever and his middle name equals something that is bad when my own name maybe different also. Not me, let them know how much he will fight for the American dream and match his record to that, let the people know who he is that he will and does stand up for what he believes in whether its for or against his own party. Take apart W. Bush that not all his Idea’s were bad and show the good ones that McCain sided for, and the bad ones he sided against, and the good ones McCain pushed for that Bush took. There is nothing McCain needs to defend its all out there, let him stand by it and let the others fend off the trash talk. Now this reply has some suggestions and a hope that we start to talk with the people in the middle in a way that they can relate, because we all do not think alike and we need to make a case to those in the middle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>a lot here but there is not much else I can say.<br />
it seems to me and I am sure that you will let me know that the fight is for the people in the middle to get their votes. I re-read my replies and see that I did not make any suggestions, just in my view some clear observations. I do believe that McCain should have aggressively campaigned from the beginning the way I think McCain would have because I don&#8217;t think he is anybodies pushover, and by the way he is doing now. But come on McCain is bigger and stronger than any flinging going on out there with his  record which seems to me that the people who are down the middle want to hear more of, which he has plenty. We have plenty of respondents to cut short the things like Senator Kerry is joking about. The fight is not for the republicans who will vote for him already but for those who again are down the middle. What can we say to them, don’t vote for Obama because his middle name is Hussein or that he pals around with Ayers or that Obama is green, because if I were in the middle I would think wow a green guy is holding his own against one of our best, that we’ve been talking about Ayers forever and his middle name equals something that is bad when my own name maybe different also. Not me, let them know how much he will fight for the American dream and match his record to that, let the people know who he is that he will and does stand up for what he believes in whether its for or against his own party. Take apart W. Bush that not all his Idea’s were bad and show the good ones that McCain sided for, and the bad ones he sided against, and the good ones McCain pushed for that Bush took. There is nothing McCain needs to defend its all out there, let him stand by it and let the others fend off the trash talk. Now this reply has some suggestions and a hope that we start to talk with the people in the middle in a way that they can relate, because we all do not think alike and we need to make a case to those in the middle.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike's America</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/10/21/free-joe-biden/#comment-123165</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike's America</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 15:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>His campaign has been run badly, but not for the reasons you suggest. He&#039;s been WAAAYYY too slow in taking the attack to Obama.

Will Obama is out there running ads calling Mccain &quot;erratic&quot; and Senator Kerry is joking McCain is wearing Depends diapers we have people like you telling us to rise above it all and lose for SURE.

If you don&#039;t understand what kind of fight this is, you have no business making suggestions to McCain or anyone else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>His campaign has been run badly, but not for the reasons you suggest. He&#8217;s been WAAAYYY too slow in taking the attack to Obama.</p>
<p>Will Obama is out there running ads calling Mccain &#8220;erratic&#8221; and Senator Kerry is joking McCain is wearing Depends diapers we have people like you telling us to rise above it all and lose for SURE.</p>
<p>If you don&#8217;t understand what kind of fight this is, you have no business making suggestions to McCain or anyone else.</p>
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