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		<title>By: Dave Noble</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Noble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 13:46:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mata,

Conceding your point for the sake of argument, the Southern states took up arms against the legitimate democratic government of the United States, because they failed to achieve their goals through the democratic process.  Tariffs - now there&#039;s something worth all the bloodshed that tore this nation apart.

What do William Ayres and the Confederate Army at Fort Sumter have in common?

They both attacked a federal facility.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Mata,</p>
<p>Conceding your point for the sake of argument, the Southern states took up arms against the legitimate democratic government of the United States, because they failed to achieve their goals through the democratic process.  Tariffs &#8211; now there&#8217;s something worth all the bloodshed that tore this nation apart.</p>
<p>What do William Ayres and the Confederate Army at Fort Sumter have in common?</p>
<p>They both attacked a federal facility.</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Timothy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 00:19:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yah Craig, those crazy Quebecers.  They always seem angry, snooty and are easily agitated by a sock puppet (Triumph, the insult comic dog).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Yah Craig, those crazy Quebecers.  They always seem angry, snooty and are easily agitated by a sock puppet (Triumph, the insult comic dog).</p>
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		<title>By: MataHarley</title>
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		<dc:creator>MataHarley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 00:12:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, Dave Noble, the popular historic version of the Civil War is the slavery issue.  The ugly fact is it was more about tariffs than slavery.  But then, that&#039;s a less popular rallying cry, isn&#039;t it?

But tariffs... not slavery... is an issue that is still alive in today&#039;s era as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Actually, Dave Noble, the popular historic version of the Civil War is the slavery issue.  The ugly fact is it was more about tariffs than slavery.  But then, that&#8217;s a less popular rallying cry, isn&#8217;t it?</p>
<p>But tariffs&#8230; not slavery&#8230; is an issue that is still alive in today&#8217;s era as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Noble</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Noble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 00:09:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rocky,

J.D. Longstreet - sounds like the name of a Confederate general.  Maybe a forbear.  

I don&#039;t discount the contributions individual Southerners have made to our nation, particularly to our military.  Nor do I deny the tremendous suffering the people of the South experienced during the Civil War.  But I&#039;ve always found it ironic that patriotism is presented as a crucial aspect of the Southern heritage.  Particularly when a central aspect of the Southern heritage is that they went to war to separate themselves from our Republic, because they wanted to expand into the new territories their economy based on the use of other human beings as beasts of burden.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Rocky,</p>
<p>J.D. Longstreet &#8211; sounds like the name of a Confederate general.  Maybe a forbear.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t discount the contributions individual Southerners have made to our nation, particularly to our military.  Nor do I deny the tremendous suffering the people of the South experienced during the Civil War.  But I&#8217;ve always found it ironic that patriotism is presented as a crucial aspect of the Southern heritage.  Particularly when a central aspect of the Southern heritage is that they went to war to separate themselves from our Republic, because they wanted to expand into the new territories their economy based on the use of other human beings as beasts of burden.</p>
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		<title>By: Rocky_B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rocky_B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 22:38:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And as J. D. Longstreet says on Webcommentary.com, if Obama wins this very well could be &quot;The Last Election&quot;.
http://webcommentary.com/asp/ShowArticle.asp?id=longstreej&amp;date=081009

I also like his piece, &quot;Are the Dems Celebrating Too Soon?&quot;
http://webcommentary.com/asp/ShowArticle.asp?id=longstreej&amp;date=081011</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>And as J. D. Longstreet says on Webcommentary.com, if Obama wins this very well could be &#8220;The Last Election&#8221;.<br />
<a href="http://webcommentary.com/asp/ShowArticle.asp?id=longstreej&#038;date=081009" rel="nofollow">http://webcommentary.com/asp/ShowArticle.asp?id=longstreej&#038;date=081009</a></p>
<p>I also like his piece, &#8220;Are the Dems Celebrating Too Soon?&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://webcommentary.com/asp/ShowArticle.asp?id=longstreej&#038;date=081011" rel="nofollow">http://webcommentary.com/asp/ShowArticle.asp?id=longstreej&#038;date=081011</a></p>
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		<title>By: Aye Chihuahua</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aye Chihuahua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 21:18:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As Ace says, &quot;This is the election.&quot;

Roll the tape:

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>As Ace says, &#8220;This is the election.&#8221;</p>
<p>Roll the tape:</p>
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		<title>By: joe from chi</title>
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		<dc:creator>joe from chi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 07:25:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Joe was a Chicago Mayor Richard Daley crony, he would make alot more than $250,000!</description>
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		<title>By: Rocky_B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rocky_B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 07:20:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congrats Craig.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Congrats Craig.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 06:19:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GOOD NEWS:  

- Stephen Harper won the elections.
- Polls where completely wrong as usual.

BAD NEWS:

- He won a minority Government.
- Because of stupid leftist Quebeckers, Harper lost a majority Government.    The ROC (Rest Of Canada) is mad at Quebec.



A STRONGER MINORITY FOR HARPER
October 15, 2008 at 1:28AM EDT

OTTAWA — Stephen Harper&#039;s Conservatives have won a stronger minority government on the strength of gains in Ontario and British Columbia.
But the Tories paid dearly for campaign missteps in Quebec, as their failure to make gains there was a big reason they are falling short of outright control of the Commons.

In two and half years of minority government, Mr. Harper had sought to woo Quebeckers, seeing them as the path to a majority government.

Read the rest:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20081014.welxnmain1014/BNStory/politics/home

P.S.:   Hope Obama won&#039;t win.   I can&#039;t imagine Harper dealing with stupid Obama.   They are so different;  night and day.

N.B.:  There are 307 ridings in Canada.  To have a majority, you have to win 155 seats.   Here are the results of tonight&#039;s elections:

143 Conservative
75 Liberal
48 Bloc Québécois
35 NDP (New Democratic Party)
2 Independant
0 Green Party

TAKE NOTE that Quebec has 75 ridings and only 10 went to Harper.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>GOOD NEWS:  </p>
<p>- Stephen Harper won the elections.<br />
- Polls where completely wrong as usual.</p>
<p>BAD NEWS:</p>
<p>- He won a minority Government.<br />
- Because of stupid leftist Quebeckers, Harper lost a majority Government.    The ROC (Rest Of Canada) is mad at Quebec.</p>
<p>A STRONGER MINORITY FOR HARPER<br />
October 15, 2008 at 1:28AM EDT</p>
<p>OTTAWA — Stephen Harper&#8217;s Conservatives have won a stronger minority government on the strength of gains in Ontario and British Columbia.<br />
But the Tories paid dearly for campaign missteps in Quebec, as their failure to make gains there was a big reason they are falling short of outright control of the Commons.</p>
<p>In two and half years of minority government, Mr. Harper had sought to woo Quebeckers, seeing them as the path to a majority government.</p>
<p>Read the rest:<br />
<a href="http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20081014.welxnmain1014/BNStory/politics/home" rel="nofollow">http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20081014.welxnmain1014/BNStory/politics/home</a></p>
<p>P.S.:   Hope Obama won&#8217;t win.   I can&#8217;t imagine Harper dealing with stupid Obama.   They are so different;  night and day.</p>
<p>N.B.:  There are 307 ridings in Canada.  To have a majority, you have to win 155 seats.   Here are the results of tonight&#8217;s elections:</p>
<p>143 Conservative<br />
75 Liberal<br />
48 Bloc Québécois<br />
35 NDP (New Democratic Party)<br />
2 Independant<br />
0 Green Party</p>
<p>TAKE NOTE that Quebec has 75 ridings and only 10 went to Harper.</p>
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		<title>By: lizz</title>
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		<dc:creator>lizz</dc:creator>
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		<description>If Obama really wanted to help out those at the bottom then he would have done so before he was running for president. The man&#039;s a walking hypocrisy poster. I&#039;m eighteen and I have to say the very idea of a socialistic move being thrown in by any presidential candidate is a slap to the face of our Founding Fathers. It&#039;s like tearing the Constitution to pieces and then trampling all over the graves of Revolutionary War soldiers who fought to get AWAY from government in the first place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>If Obama really wanted to help out those at the bottom then he would have done so before he was running for president. The man&#8217;s a walking hypocrisy poster. I&#8217;m eighteen and I have to say the very idea of a socialistic move being thrown in by any presidential candidate is a slap to the face of our Founding Fathers. It&#8217;s like tearing the Constitution to pieces and then trampling all over the graves of Revolutionary War soldiers who fought to get AWAY from government in the first place.</p>
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