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		<title>By: Ron</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/10/13/the-new-obama-cabinet-reader-post/comment-page-1/#comment-121133</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 15:49:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To RockyB:

You sir are a gentlemen. I appreciate the kind response. You&#039;d be surprised how many times people have responded with sarcasm and insults when I post something that contradicts what they&#039;ve posted. I was once called &quot;an insidious disease&quot; for simply posting some fact checking about McCain (and I&#039;m a McCain supporter) from the Factcheck.org website. 

Your links and rebuttals are quite thorough as well as insightful. I&#039;ll definitely pay closer attention when you post responses, although I&#039;d have to take a day off work just to get through all of the information you post!

I&#039;m a kidder!

Kind regards

Ron</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>To RockyB:</p>
<p>You sir are a gentlemen. I appreciate the kind response. You&#8217;d be surprised how many times people have responded with sarcasm and insults when I post something that contradicts what they&#8217;ve posted. I was once called &#8220;an insidious disease&#8221; for simply posting some fact checking about McCain (and I&#8217;m a McCain supporter) from the Factcheck.org website. </p>
<p>Your links and rebuttals are quite thorough as well as insightful. I&#8217;ll definitely pay closer attention when you post responses, although I&#8217;d have to take a day off work just to get through all of the information you post!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a kidder!</p>
<p>Kind regards</p>
<p>Ron</p>
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		<title>By: Rocky_B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rocky_B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 21:44:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Then I stand corrected on my correction. 

Ron;
After reading your post and a having a &quot;Now wait a damn minute, I know what I saw.&quot; moment, I went back to double-double-check and it appears you are correct. However, I would recommend factcheck.dot remove &quot;Annenberg&quot; from their banner or putting a disclaimer somewhere on the webpage that factcheck.org is in no way affiliated with the Chicago Annenberg Connection so that others don&#039;t jump to the same conclusion of potential bias. 

Fit Fit; 
Factcheck.com did indeed once lead to a Soros site. I know because I was one of many that ended up there following the 2004 VP debate. I hadn&#039;t gone back there since and now when you go there it takes you to a search engine. So I thought maybe my memory was faulty and changed &quot;.com&quot; to &quot;.org&quot;. Knowing of the Soros-Obama-CAC connection, and seeing Annenberg right there in the banner, I had naturally assumed it was the Soros site. My thanks to Ron for straightening this out and apologies to factcheck.org for impuning their honor. 

As I mentioned, I too had gone there, as can be seen by these links. 

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/nation/president/2004-10-06-cheney-error_x.htm

http://www.indcjournal.com/archives/001086.php

http://tedshelton.blogspot.com/2004/10/factcheckcom-george-soros.html

http://www.americanthinker.com/2004/10/soros_plays_games_with_the_fac.html

Hence the confusion. It&#039;s not surprising that socialist like George Soros would take advantage of and mislead the public. Socialists enjoy screwing with people&#039;s minds. I would not be surprised if the name &quot;Annenberg&quot; and acronym &quot;CAC&quot; for the Chicago Annenberg Challenge were originally selected to mislead. The Annenberg School For Communication at the University of Pennsylvania was founded in 1959, long before the CAC of Ayers and Obama. 

http://www.asc.upenn.edu/about/

To note; There are a several organizations with &quot;CAC&quot; acronyms that pop up when you do a search with the &quot;University of Pennsylvania&quot; and &quot;CAC&quot; so this can add to the confusion: 

The Corporate Advisory Council (CAC) which meets at Bloomburg University of Pennsylvania

The Child Advocacy Center of Montgomery County (CAC), to be called Mission Kids; http://lsr.nellco.org/upenn/wps/papers/94/

The clean Air Counsel; http://www.cleanair.org/InsideCAC/board.html

The Corporate Advisory Council (CAC); http://iit.bloomu.edu/iit/cac.cfm

The Center for Advanced Communication; http://www.villanova.edu/engineering/centers/cac/faculty/professors.htm

Etceteras.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Then I stand corrected on my correction. </p>
<p>Ron;<br />
After reading your post and a having a &#8220;Now wait a damn minute, I know what I saw.&#8221; moment, I went back to double-double-check and it appears you are correct. However, I would recommend factcheck.dot remove &#8220;Annenberg&#8221; from their banner or putting a disclaimer somewhere on the webpage that factcheck.org is in no way affiliated with the Chicago Annenberg Connection so that others don&#8217;t jump to the same conclusion of potential bias. </p>
<p>Fit Fit;<br />
Factcheck.com did indeed once lead to a Soros site. I know because I was one of many that ended up there following the 2004 VP debate. I hadn&#8217;t gone back there since and now when you go there it takes you to a search engine. So I thought maybe my memory was faulty and changed &#8220;.com&#8221; to &#8220;.org&#8221;. Knowing of the Soros-Obama-CAC connection, and seeing Annenberg right there in the banner, I had naturally assumed it was the Soros site. My thanks to Ron for straightening this out and apologies to factcheck.org for impuning their honor. </p>
<p>As I mentioned, I too had gone there, as can be seen by these links. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/nation/president/2004-10-06-cheney-error_x.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/nation/president/2004-10-06-cheney-error_x.htm</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.indcjournal.com/archives/001086.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.indcjournal.com/archives/001086.php</a></p>
<p><a href="http://tedshelton.blogspot.com/2004/10/factcheckcom-george-soros.html" rel="nofollow">http://tedshelton.blogspot.com/2004/10/factcheckcom-george-soros.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.americanthinker.com/2004/10/soros_plays_games_with_the_fac.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.americanthinker.com/2004/10/soros_plays_games_with_the_fac.html</a></p>
<p>Hence the confusion. It&#8217;s not surprising that socialist like George Soros would take advantage of and mislead the public. Socialists enjoy screwing with people&#8217;s minds. I would not be surprised if the name &#8220;Annenberg&#8221; and acronym &#8220;CAC&#8221; for the Chicago Annenberg Challenge were originally selected to mislead. The Annenberg School For Communication at the University of Pennsylvania was founded in 1959, long before the CAC of Ayers and Obama. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.asc.upenn.edu/about/" rel="nofollow">http://www.asc.upenn.edu/about/</a></p>
<p>To note; There are a several organizations with &#8220;CAC&#8221; acronyms that pop up when you do a search with the &#8220;University of Pennsylvania&#8221; and &#8220;CAC&#8221; so this can add to the confusion: </p>
<p>The Corporate Advisory Council (CAC) which meets at Bloomburg University of Pennsylvania</p>
<p>The Child Advocacy Center of Montgomery County (CAC), to be called Mission Kids; <a href="http://lsr.nellco.org/upenn/wps/papers/94/" rel="nofollow">http://lsr.nellco.org/upenn/wps/papers/94/</a></p>
<p>The clean Air Counsel; <a href="http://www.cleanair.org/InsideCAC/board.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.cleanair.org/InsideCAC/board.html</a></p>
<p>The Corporate Advisory Council (CAC); <a href="http://iit.bloomu.edu/iit/cac.cfm" rel="nofollow">http://iit.bloomu.edu/iit/cac.cfm</a></p>
<p>The Center for Advanced Communication; <a href="http://www.villanova.edu/engineering/centers/cac/faculty/professors.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.villanova.edu/engineering/centers/cac/faculty/professors.htm</a></p>
<p>Etceteras.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 18:58:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Fit Fit:

True. 

Sorry, that&#039;s all I got. 

Ron</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>To Fit Fit:</p>
<p>True. </p>
<p>Sorry, that&#8217;s all I got. </p>
<p>Ron</p>
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		<title>By: Fit fit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fit fit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 18:06:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FactCheck really burst onto the scene in the 2004 election when Dick Cheney referenced it in the VP debate.  He called it Factcheck.com by mistake, which, if I remember correctly took you to a Soros funded site.  

I trust in their efforts to be non-partisan, but I think anyone could eventually find fault with some of their conclusions from time to time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>FactCheck really burst onto the scene in the 2004 election when Dick Cheney referenced it in the VP debate.  He called it Factcheck.com by mistake, which, if I remember correctly took you to a Soros funded site.  </p>
<p>I trust in their efforts to be non-partisan, but I think anyone could eventually find fault with some of their conclusions from time to time.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 17:59:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rocky B:


(FactCheck.org, which is nonpartisan, also receives funding from the Annenberg Foundation. But we are in no way connected to the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, which finished its work long before we came into being in late 2003.)

I&#039;m not suggesting that Factcheck.org are perfect but they routinely fact check the left. And besides, numerous authors on this very website reference them. Curt and Wordsmith have both sited Factcheck so I doubt they would use them if they weren&#039;t reliable.

Ron</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Rocky B:</p>
<p>(FactCheck.org, which is nonpartisan, also receives funding from the Annenberg Foundation. But we are in no way connected to the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, which finished its work long before we came into being in late 2003.)</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not suggesting that Factcheck.org are perfect but they routinely fact check the left. And besides, numerous authors on this very website reference them. Curt and Wordsmith have both sited Factcheck so I doubt they would use them if they weren&#8217;t reliable.</p>
<p>Ron</p>
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		<title>By: Never Yet Melted &#187; American Nightmare</title>
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		<dc:creator>Never Yet Melted &#187; American Nightmare</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 12:28:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: PamelaofthePoconos</title>
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		<dc:creator>PamelaofthePoconos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 11:27:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Oprah will be in there someplace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>I think Oprah will be in there someplace.</p>
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		<title>By: Rocky_B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rocky_B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 09:16:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My bad. Corrections; 
- That should be http://factcheck.org/ As you can see at the top of their link, like much of the Obama connections, they hide in plain sight. 
- &quot;in November&quot; was supposed to be at the end of my last paragraph. 

I did find it surprising that factchack pointed out some Obama-Biden mis-statements. I wonder if that was only concerning items someone had already raised the BS flag on to make them appear legit? After all, it was CNN that suggested viewers go there to review what was true and false following the Biden vs Palin debate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>My bad. Corrections;<br />
- That should be <a href="http://factcheck.org/" rel="nofollow">http://factcheck.org/</a> As you can see at the top of their link, like much of the Obama connections, they hide in plain sight.<br />
- &#8220;in November&#8221; was supposed to be at the end of my last paragraph. </p>
<p>I did find it surprising that factchack pointed out some Obama-Biden mis-statements. I wonder if that was only concerning items someone had already raised the BS flag on to make them appear legit? After all, it was CNN that suggested viewers go there to review what was true and false following the Biden vs Palin debate.</p>
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		<title>By: Rocky_B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rocky_B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 04:16:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re right Craig, If you didn&#039;t know it FactCheck.com is run by Annenberg. You remember them? Obama &amp; Ayers were on that board.

And every election going back to Carter vs Reagan the polls have shown the Democrats in the lead. No they are in no way dependable. In November.

Oh speaking of the polls, Why would Obama be dropping...? Hmm, let&#039;s see... Do ya&#039; think maybe it has something to do with the end of voter registration and Acorn reps have pulled out and stopped hovering over the registration offices and DMV&#039;s like buzzards? Rest assured of course they&#039;ll be right back outside the polling stations forcing Obama phamplets upon everyone that gets with-in 200 yards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>You&#8217;re right Craig, If you didn&#8217;t know it FactCheck.com is run by Annenberg. You remember them? Obama &amp; Ayers were on that board.</p>
<p>And every election going back to Carter vs Reagan the polls have shown the Democrats in the lead. No they are in no way dependable. In November.</p>
<p>Oh speaking of the polls, Why would Obama be dropping&#8230;? Hmm, let&#8217;s see&#8230; Do ya&#8217; think maybe it has something to do with the end of voter registration and Acorn reps have pulled out and stopped hovering over the registration offices and DMV&#8217;s like buzzards? Rest assured of course they&#8217;ll be right back outside the polling stations forcing Obama phamplets upon everyone that gets with-in 200 yards.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 02:40:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do not believe in polls.    I&#039;m sure they are owned by leftists just like the MSM.  And I even doubt the Fact Check sites honesty.     McCain/Palin will win this election.  They have to.   Otherwise, America will become a terrorist&#039;s sanctuary.</description>
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