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	<title>Comments on: Mystery &#8220;Death Ship&#8221; Released From Somalian Pirates</title>
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		<title>By: yonason</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/10/11/mystery-death-ship-released-from-somalian-pirates/#comment-120581</link>
		<dc:creator>yonason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 07:12:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ar&#039; an here&#039;s a nifty nautical tracking tool what might interest ya,...
http://www.sailwx.info/shiptrack/shiplocations.phtml

...but I don&#039;t see &#039;er anywhere I thought she&#039;d be...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Ar&#8217; an here&#8217;s a nifty nautical tracking tool what might interest ya,&#8230;<br />
<a href="http://www.sailwx.info/shiptrack/shiplocations.phtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.sailwx.info/shiptrack/shiplocations.phtml</a></p>
<p>&#8230;but I don&#8217;t see &#8216;er anywhere I thought she&#8217;d be&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Rocky_B</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/10/11/mystery-death-ship-released-from-somalian-pirates/#comment-120577</link>
		<dc:creator>Rocky_B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 07:07:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh LOL, Ar&#039; then have at ye&#039; matey. ya&#039; got to put the lingo in there next time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Oh LOL, Ar&#8217; then have at ye&#8217; matey. ya&#8217; got to put the lingo in there next time.</p>
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		<title>By: yonason</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/10/11/mystery-death-ship-released-from-somalian-pirates/#comment-120568</link>
		<dc:creator>yonason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 06:58:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rocky_B

Yes, Rocky, I know what a keel is.  I was pretending to be a novice pirate.  Guess that wasn&#039;t too clear.  And that picture is of the MV Iran Deyanat, the ship in question, which doesn&#039;t look to be in any too well maintained externally to start with.  But the keel is probably the last to go, which is why I thought it was a funny ruse to pull &#039;em over to search &#039;em.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Rocky_B</p>
<p>Yes, Rocky, I know what a keel is.  I was pretending to be a novice pirate.  Guess that wasn&#8217;t too clear.  And that picture is of the MV Iran Deyanat, the ship in question, which doesn&#8217;t look to be in any too well maintained externally to start with.  But the keel is probably the last to go, which is why I thought it was a funny ruse to pull &#8216;em over to search &#8216;em.</p>
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		<title>By: Rocky_B</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 05:47:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yonason;
A keel is the center beam that run&#039;s from a watercraft&#039;s bow underneath to it&#039;s stern. In the tall ship days and earlier the keel was the primary structure of the entire ship. Much like our back-bones/vertibrate. A ship of that class probably wouldn&#039;t have an true keel, but bulkheads, ribs, stringers and other components for attaching the sheetmetal hull and deckings to. However the point of Anna&#039;s question is whether whatever the mysterious cargo is, whether it could leech out. 

Anna;
As we discussed in other thread&#039;s concerning this ship, the symptoms described are more consistant with radiation poisoning than chemical or biological warfare agents. That is justifible concern for the UN and the US, as it could point to Iran as either importing or exporting nuclear materials illegally. Even if it were only nuclear waste water being transported, the answer to your question is yes, it could feasibly leak out and cause environmental complications. However, if it were only &quot;heavy water&quot; it would dilute with the sea currents eventually be relatively inconsequential, unless it made it&#039;s way via local fishing into food supplies. The greater concern is the possibility that it might have carried materials that could yield a dirty nuke for terrorist use and where that material is now. 

Either way, it is important that the ship be searched ASAP to determine risks. Even if the materials were removed, if people were getting sick, there would still be trace radiation. The corpses of the dead pirates should also be carefully examined for radiation. If they are contaminated, they have to be disposed of as hazardous nuclear waste.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Yonason;<br />
A keel is the center beam that run&#8217;s from a watercraft&#8217;s bow underneath to it&#8217;s stern. In the tall ship days and earlier the keel was the primary structure of the entire ship. Much like our back-bones/vertibrate. A ship of that class probably wouldn&#8217;t have an true keel, but bulkheads, ribs, stringers and other components for attaching the sheetmetal hull and deckings to. However the point of Anna&#8217;s question is whether whatever the mysterious cargo is, whether it could leech out. </p>
<p>Anna;<br />
As we discussed in other thread&#8217;s concerning this ship, the symptoms described are more consistant with radiation poisoning than chemical or biological warfare agents. That is justifible concern for the UN and the US, as it could point to Iran as either importing or exporting nuclear materials illegally. Even if it were only nuclear waste water being transported, the answer to your question is yes, it could feasibly leak out and cause environmental complications. However, if it were only &#8220;heavy water&#8221; it would dilute with the sea currents eventually be relatively inconsequential, unless it made it&#8217;s way via local fishing into food supplies. The greater concern is the possibility that it might have carried materials that could yield a dirty nuke for terrorist use and where that material is now. </p>
<p>Either way, it is important that the ship be searched ASAP to determine risks. Even if the materials were removed, if people were getting sick, there would still be trace radiation. The corpses of the dead pirates should also be carefully examined for radiation. If they are contaminated, they have to be disposed of as hazardous nuclear waste.</p>
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		<title>By: yonason</title>
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		<dc:creator>yonason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 03:29:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;rusted out keel?&quot;  What&#039;s a &quot;keel?&quot;
http://www.wellandcanal.ca/salties/i/irandeyanat/deyanat.htm

some other info
http://informationdissemination.blogspot.com/2008/09/observing-story-of-mv-iran-deyanat.html

http://www.thetimes.co.za/PrintEdition/Article.aspx?id=851953

http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2008/09/mystery_surrounds_hi.php</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>&#8220;rusted out keel?&#8221;  What&#8217;s a &#8220;keel?&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://www.wellandcanal.ca/salties/i/irandeyanat/deyanat.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.wellandcanal.ca/salties/i/irandeyanat/deyanat.htm</a></p>
<p>some other info<br />
<a href="http://informationdissemination.blogspot.com/2008/09/observing-story-of-mv-iran-deyanat.html" rel="nofollow">http://informationdissemination.blogspot.com/2008/09/observing-story-of-mv-iran-deyanat.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.thetimes.co.za/PrintEdition/Article.aspx?id=851953" rel="nofollow">http://www.thetimes.co.za/PrintEdition/Article.aspx?id=851953</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2008/09/mystery_surrounds_hi.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2008/09/mystery_surrounds_hi.php</a></p>
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		<title>By: yonason</title>
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		<dc:creator>yonason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 02:57:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;&quot;After all spending weeks and weeks without proper maintenace, who knows if the rust has eaten out the keel?&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

LOL

&quot;Yeah, and ya know, yore flagstaff looks a bit cockeyed, and those radio communications! ...the static was awful.  And ya see this here turn signal?  (smash)  See how it&#039;s broke?&quot; -- LTJG Opie.
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&lt;EM&gt;&quot;Maybe they are going to see if anyone has the audacity to claim the cargo as their own.&quot;&lt;/EM&gt; -- Elroy Jetson

I.e., you mean, see what their destination is?  Probably not stupid enough to go there now.  I would stop them and search it, but then what do I know.  So we have another 9/11 just because we&#039;re too timid to do anything. It won&#039;t be the first time.</description>
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<p>LOL</p>
<p>&#8220;Yeah, and ya know, yore flagstaff looks a bit cockeyed, and those radio communications! &#8230;the static was awful.  And ya see this here turn signal?  (smash)  See how it&#8217;s broke?&#8221; &#8212; LTJG Opie.<br />
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<em>&#8220;Maybe they are going to see if anyone has the audacity to claim the cargo as their own.&#8221;</em> &#8212; Elroy Jetson</p>
<p>I.e., you mean, see what their destination is?  Probably not stupid enough to go there now.  I would stop them and search it, but then what do I know.  So we have another 9/11 just because we&#8217;re too timid to do anything. It won&#8217;t be the first time.</p>
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		<title>By: Elroy Jetson</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 14:54:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe they are going to see if anyone has the audacity to claim the cargo as their own.</description>
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		<title>By: Anna Puna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anna Puna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 13:56:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually the US, UK, and Russia should all order the ship to heave to for safety and navigation inspections.  After all spending weeks and weeks without proper maintenace, who knows if the rust has eaten out the keel?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Actually the US, UK, and Russia should all order the ship to heave to for safety and navigation inspections.  After all spending weeks and weeks without proper maintenace, who knows if the rust has eaten out the keel?</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Malensek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Malensek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 01:23:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apparently, that IS the case.  My hope is that the USN/NATO will stop it for a health inspection, but my fear is that whatever was on it that killed 50 pirates who came close to &quot;it&quot; might have been offloaded and passed on to the AQ affiliate group that serves as middleman between the pirates and ransom payers.  Could be just warlord rumors and such, but scary stuff to be certain.  I&#039;ve been posting the Somali pirate things for the past few days as I think this is an international incident simmering just close enough to the surface that it could erupt and become a real important focal point (that is if the world economy levels out).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Apparently, that IS the case.  My hope is that the USN/NATO will stop it for a health inspection, but my fear is that whatever was on it that killed 50 pirates who came close to &#8220;it&#8221; might have been offloaded and passed on to the AQ affiliate group that serves as middleman between the pirates and ransom payers.  Could be just warlord rumors and such, but scary stuff to be certain.  I&#8217;ve been posting the Somali pirate things for the past few days as I think this is an international incident simmering just close enough to the surface that it could erupt and become a real important focal point (that is if the world economy levels out).</p>
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		<title>By: Mike's America</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/10/11/mystery-death-ship-released-from-somalian-pirates/#comment-120136</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike's America</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 23:48:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So the pirates let this ship and it&#039;s crew go? And are we just going to let it slip away to wherever?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>So the pirates let this ship and it&#8217;s crew go? And are we just going to let it slip away to wherever?</p>
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