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	<title>Comments on: New Obama Ad Lies About McCain Health Care Plan</title>
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		<title>By: charles</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/10/05/new-obama-ad-lies-about-mccain-health-care-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-120712</link>
		<dc:creator>charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 20:00:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you really think the Obama or McCain health plan is real read this FackCheck on both the Obama AND McCain Health Plans!

http://strategicthought-charles77.blogspot.com/2008/10/obama-mccain-health-care-plans-fact.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>If you really think the Obama or McCain health plan is real read this FackCheck on both the Obama AND McCain Health Plans!</p>
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		<title>By: suek</title>
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		<dc:creator>suek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 20:51:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;she told me i shouldn’t discuss politics with my kids,mmm, should they learn about them at school or daycare?&gt;&gt;

Oh yeah...like all about sex and religion...just the important stuff!

And about FactCheck...just keep in mind that it&#039;s financed by the Annenberg Foundation.

&gt;&gt;we all know that its really not gonna happen, but i guess some people need to believe the msm and all their crap.&gt;&gt;

You might ask her about the fact that something like 5% of the high income people already pay something like 90% of the taxes collected.  How much can he increase taxes on that 5% and still pay for all the stuff he&#039;s promised?  Also...there&#039;s that UN tax he wants the US to pay...something like _7%_ of our GDP every year... don&#039;t know offhand what that program is called, but Obama&#039;s all for it.  He&#039;s very generous about doling out other people&#039;s money...!

I&#039;ll try to find a link...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>&gt;&gt;she told me i shouldn’t discuss politics with my kids,mmm, should they learn about them at school or daycare?&gt;&gt;</p>
<p>Oh yeah&#8230;like all about sex and religion&#8230;just the important stuff!</p>
<p>And about FactCheck&#8230;just keep in mind that it&#8217;s financed by the Annenberg Foundation.</p>
<p>&gt;&gt;we all know that its really not gonna happen, but i guess some people need to believe the msm and all their crap.&gt;&gt;</p>
<p>You might ask her about the fact that something like 5% of the high income people already pay something like 90% of the taxes collected.  How much can he increase taxes on that 5% and still pay for all the stuff he&#8217;s promised?  Also&#8230;there&#8217;s that UN tax he wants the US to pay&#8230;something like _7%_ of our GDP every year&#8230; don&#8217;t know offhand what that program is called, but Obama&#8217;s all for it.  He&#8217;s very generous about doling out other people&#8217;s money&#8230;!</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll try to find a link&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Just A Grunt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Just A Grunt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 13:46:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A commercial named COIN huh? How ironic. They wouldn&#039;t know a &lt;a&gt;COIN strategy&lt;/a&gt; if the guy who wrote the book slapped them upside the head with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>A commercial named COIN huh? How ironic. They wouldn&#8217;t know a <a>COIN strategy</a> if the guy who wrote the book slapped them upside the head with it.</p>
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		<title>By: luva the scissors</title>
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		<dc:creator>luva the scissors</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 05:06:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah i will bring that up mata, she is deluded if she thinks that she will save money with his plans.  we all know that its really not gonna happen, but i guess some people need to believe the msm and all their crap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>yeah i will bring that up mata, she is deluded if she thinks that she will save money with his plans.  we all know that its really not gonna happen, but i guess some people need to believe the msm and all their crap.</p>
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		<title>By: PurpleDragon2</title>
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		<dc:creator>PurpleDragon2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 04:38:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wouldn&#039;t trust FactCheck.org all that much. When the NRA ran an ad on Barry O&#039;s gun rights record they said the ad was false when in fact it was true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>I wouldn&#8217;t trust FactCheck.org all that much. When the NRA ran an ad on Barry O&#8217;s gun rights record they said the ad was false when in fact it was true.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 04:36:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I copied/pasted a part of one of my comment in another thread:

Free Health Care System do not work, give them information, real information… nothing is free, the Health care system is paid with your incometaxes. Sure it will be free to go to an Hospital or to see a doctor… but you will have time to die before you even get to see one. 

Free Education is not any better, it is so expensive on middle class income taxes, that they can not pay there teachers good money… so they leave and go elsewhere and you are stuck with stupid ignorant teachers that knows nothing and your diplomas is not worth a dime. I know, I live in stupid Quebec socialist province. 

Our infrastructure is falling apart, our bridges collapses, our roads are full of wholes, our sewer system his finish, our taxes are the highest of all North America and we are in debts up to our neck. Every street corner you walk there is someone begging for money, they live on the streets, etc. Tell these people about that, give them facts.

Here in Quebec we nationalized our electricity, so we are the poorest Province of Canada, the province from the West gives us perequation to survive… 8 billions last year from Alberta (who was brilliant enough not to nationalized their oil)  and from Ontario and Saskatchewan. A real shame… we have become the Wellfare province because stupid leftists governs Québec.

TELL your friend Luva, get her to read my post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>I copied/pasted a part of one of my comment in another thread:</p>
<p>Free Health Care System do not work, give them information, real information… nothing is free, the Health care system is paid with your incometaxes. Sure it will be free to go to an Hospital or to see a doctor… but you will have time to die before you even get to see one. </p>
<p>Free Education is not any better, it is so expensive on middle class income taxes, that they can not pay there teachers good money… so they leave and go elsewhere and you are stuck with stupid ignorant teachers that knows nothing and your diplomas is not worth a dime. I know, I live in stupid Quebec socialist province. </p>
<p>Our infrastructure is falling apart, our bridges collapses, our roads are full of wholes, our sewer system his finish, our taxes are the highest of all North America and we are in debts up to our neck. Every street corner you walk there is someone begging for money, they live on the streets, etc. Tell these people about that, give them facts.</p>
<p>Here in Quebec we nationalized our electricity, so we are the poorest Province of Canada, the province from the West gives us perequation to survive… 8 billions last year from Alberta (who was brilliant enough not to nationalized their oil)  and from Ontario and Saskatchewan. A real shame… we have become the Wellfare province because stupid leftists governs Québec.</p>
<p>TELL your friend Luva, get her to read my post.</p>
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		<title>By: MataHarley</title>
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		<dc:creator>MataHarley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 04:02:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Next time you see her, Luva, you might want to ask her if that tax cut Obama gives her is before, or after, he raises the taxes by sunsetting the tax break she already gets with the Bush tax.  It may come out in the wash.

If she&#039;s up on those figures, you might want to ask her that tho he&#039;s cutting her income taxes, how will she feel about the tax increases for his energy plans, his health plan, and his kindergarten plan.... and oh yes, don&#039;t forget about the increase in the death tax.  

Is she willing to take a little extra on the income tax, and pay out more for the rest?  &#039;Cause I&#039;m willing to bet that she, like the rest of us, will find out that Obama&#039;s &quot;change&quot; really means just the nickels and dimes left in our palms when he&#039;s done with his new welfare programs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Next time you see her, Luva, you might want to ask her if that tax cut Obama gives her is before, or after, he raises the taxes by sunsetting the tax break she already gets with the Bush tax.  It may come out in the wash.</p>
<p>If she&#8217;s up on those figures, you might want to ask her that tho he&#8217;s cutting her income taxes, how will she feel about the tax increases for his energy plans, his health plan, and his kindergarten plan&#8230;. and oh yes, don&#8217;t forget about the increase in the death tax.  </p>
<p>Is she willing to take a little extra on the income tax, and pay out more for the rest?  &#8216;Cause I&#8217;m willing to bet that she, like the rest of us, will find out that Obama&#8217;s &#8220;change&#8221; really means just the nickels and dimes left in our palms when he&#8217;s done with his new welfare programs.</p>
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		<title>By: luva the scissors</title>
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		<dc:creator>luva the scissors</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 03:53:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey curt, you will love this, my daycare lady swears she will do better tax wise under obama.  she claims to be independent, yet she freaks when you question obama, anyways, she thinks she will get a btter deal.  her husband works for the county as a surveyor, and she has a daycare.  they have health insurance through his job with the county, and she has 2 employees, she will be screwed and she doesn&#039;t realize it.  she seems to think she will be 3%better off with obama because of her income level, yet she fails to realize how this will mess with her business and employees and her business taxes.  we had a very heated exchange because my son told her obama was bad because he is friends with terrorists and hates his gramma who he threw under a bus.  she told me i shouldn&#039;t discuss politics with my kids,mmm, should they learn about them at school or daycare?  i think not.  obama is dead set on ruining this country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>hey curt, you will love this, my daycare lady swears she will do better tax wise under obama.  she claims to be independent, yet she freaks when you question obama, anyways, she thinks she will get a btter deal.  her husband works for the county as a surveyor, and she has a daycare.  they have health insurance through his job with the county, and she has 2 employees, she will be screwed and she doesn&#8217;t realize it.  she seems to think she will be 3%better off with obama because of her income level, yet she fails to realize how this will mess with her business and employees and her business taxes.  we had a very heated exchange because my son told her obama was bad because he is friends with terrorists and hates his gramma who he threw under a bus.  she told me i shouldn&#8217;t discuss politics with my kids,mmm, should they learn about them at school or daycare?  i think not.  obama is dead set on ruining this country.</p>
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