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	<title>Comments on: The GWOT from a 911 survivor&#8217;s point of view:  Courtesy post of DC&#8217;s comment</title>
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		<title>By: Canon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Canon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 05:51:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Atleast we get to see the other side of the story. Are you a part of some &lt;a href=&quot;http://heathrowairambulance.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;International Air Ambulance Service&lt;/a&gt;? Just asking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Atleast we get to see the other side of the story. Are you a part of some <a href="http://heathrowairambulance.com" rel="nofollow">International Air Ambulance Service</a>? Just asking.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 05:27:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>STIX 1972, said:  &quot;It is a long war between the West (mostly Christian) vs the Islamists that want to take over the world in the name Allah.&quot;

DC, replied: “Islamists are fighting a battle against a “West”/enemy/identity that no longer exists.” 

I WOULD say:   It is a war between Civilisation and Barbarism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>STIX 1972, said:  &#8220;It is a long war between the West (mostly Christian) vs the Islamists that want to take over the world in the name Allah.&#8221;</p>
<p>DC, replied: “Islamists are fighting a battle against a “West”/enemy/identity that no longer exists.” </p>
<p>I WOULD say:   It is a war between Civilisation and Barbarism.</p>
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		<title>By: Dc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 03:54:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Z,

 That&#039;s the moment that I &quot;knew&quot; this was going to be a different kind of war.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Z,</p>
<p> That&#8217;s the moment that I &#8220;knew&#8221; this was going to be a different kind of war.</p>
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		<title>By: Z</title>
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		<dc:creator>Z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 00:52:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this account.......Dc, I am so sorry for what you went through.
This personal, moment by moment account of the horrors (who knew that each plane over head was thought to be more attacks at the time? And how could it not have been perceived that way?) REALLY REALLY &#039;brought it home&#039;, as if most of us needed it?  I see that I did.
The image of that Wall St type hanging on to his briefcase handle, suit burned to him, haunts me and probably always will.  How the heck can YOU not have some post traumatic stress syndrome yourself, Dc?
You people who saw what you had to see and felt the fear you had to feel are unsung heroes, in my eyes. 
The very thought of those MEers cheering is so hard to consider. I lived in Paris, France when this happened and the neighbors on the same floor across the street were rich Arabs......they had a party, holding the door open as men arrived (no women) and pointing to the television as if to say &quot;How&#039;s THAT!?&quot;   Slapping each other on the back!  Do you know, I swear that I went through every single TV channel in Paris hoping there was an outstanding soccer game going on, hoping that&#039;s what they were going on and on about?  But, alas.  Then, I knew.
God bless you.....I&#039;d be an alcoholic if I went through what you went through!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Thanks for this account&#8230;&#8230;.Dc, I am so sorry for what you went through.<br />
This personal, moment by moment account of the horrors (who knew that each plane over head was thought to be more attacks at the time? And how could it not have been perceived that way?) REALLY REALLY &#8216;brought it home&#8217;, as if most of us needed it?  I see that I did.<br />
The image of that Wall St type hanging on to his briefcase handle, suit burned to him, haunts me and probably always will.  How the heck can YOU not have some post traumatic stress syndrome yourself, Dc?<br />
You people who saw what you had to see and felt the fear you had to feel are unsung heroes, in my eyes.<br />
The very thought of those MEers cheering is so hard to consider. I lived in Paris, France when this happened and the neighbors on the same floor across the street were rich Arabs&#8230;&#8230;they had a party, holding the door open as men arrived (no women) and pointing to the television as if to say &#8220;How&#8217;s THAT!?&#8221;   Slapping each other on the back!  Do you know, I swear that I went through every single TV channel in Paris hoping there was an outstanding soccer game going on, hoping that&#8217;s what they were going on and on about?  But, alas.  Then, I knew.<br />
God bless you&#8230;..I&#8217;d be an alcoholic if I went through what you went through!!!</p>
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		<title>By: stix1972</title>
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		<dc:creator>stix1972</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 00:27:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dc
In a lot of ways you that is true.   And that is the reason Europe is more or less Eurabia now.

Great story you wrote and I am glad that you made it out in one piece.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Dc<br />
In a lot of ways you that is true.   And that is the reason Europe is more or less Eurabia now.</p>
<p>Great story you wrote and I am glad that you made it out in one piece.</p>
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		<title>By: thebronze</title>
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		<dc:creator>thebronze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 00:10:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great writing Dc.  I&#039;m glad to see someone who &quot;gets it&quot;.</description>
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		<title>By: MataHarley</title>
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		<dc:creator>MataHarley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 23:10:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for the after-the-fact permission to repost, DC.  But I tooks da chance to share what was a one of a kind post.  And yes... so many stories.  And so many that do not get relayed to the rest of the world in the manner you did.

Just as a counterpoint to your &lt;i&gt;&quot;Islamists are fighting a battle against a “West”/enemy/identity that no longer exists.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;   Their enemy is the infidel in Arab caliphate lands.  Tho it may no longer be a Christian Crusade, the same enemy does exist.  But instead of religion v religion beliefs, it&#039;s culture vs culture with the same quest - a Muslim Caliphate that encompasses most of Europe from Spain to China.

This is from my &lt;a href=&quot;http://sea2sea.blogspot.com/2005/01/french-journalist-if-only-american.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;now ignored Sea2Sea blog, back on Jan 3, 2005.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  This was just after  the captured French journalists were released from an Int&#039;l Herald Trib article (no longer available for viewing on their site) 

During captivity, Malbrunot was shown a map by his captors.

&lt;blockquote&gt;His jailers&#039; references to bin Laden were frequent, he (Malbrunot) said. A guard insisted to Malbrunot that it was the Christians who were waging war against the Muslims. &quot;Our objective,&quot; the jailer went on, sketching a European map of the future that squares with Al Qaeda&#039;s notions, &quot;is to overthrow all the Arab rulers, and to return to the caliphate [Islamic rule] from Andalusia [Spain] to the border with China.&quot; 
. 
&quot;For them,&quot; Malbrunot wrote of his captors, &quot;France is the West; it&#039;s a global vision - it&#039;s the infidel West against the Muslim world.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

So yes... the enemy still exists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Thank you for the after-the-fact permission to repost, DC.  But I tooks da chance to share what was a one of a kind post.  And yes&#8230; so many stories.  And so many that do not get relayed to the rest of the world in the manner you did.</p>
<p>Just as a counterpoint to your <i>&#8220;Islamists are fighting a battle against a “West”/enemy/identity that no longer exists.&#8221;</i>   Their enemy is the infidel in Arab caliphate lands.  Tho it may no longer be a Christian Crusade, the same enemy does exist.  But instead of religion v religion beliefs, it&#8217;s culture vs culture with the same quest &#8211; a Muslim Caliphate that encompasses most of Europe from Spain to China.</p>
<p>This is from my <a href="http://sea2sea.blogspot.com/2005/01/french-journalist-if-only-american.html" rel="nofollow"><b>now ignored Sea2Sea blog, back on Jan 3, 2005.</b></a>  This was just after  the captured French journalists were released from an Int&#8217;l Herald Trib article (no longer available for viewing on their site) </p>
<p>During captivity, Malbrunot was shown a map by his captors.</p>
<blockquote><p>His jailers&#8217; references to bin Laden were frequent, he (Malbrunot) said. A guard insisted to Malbrunot that it was the Christians who were waging war against the Muslims. &#8220;Our objective,&#8221; the jailer went on, sketching a European map of the future that squares with Al Qaeda&#8217;s notions, &#8220;is to overthrow all the Arab rulers, and to return to the caliphate [Islamic rule] from Andalusia [Spain] to the border with China.&#8221;<br />
.<br />
&#8220;For them,&#8221; Malbrunot wrote of his captors, &#8220;France is the West; it&#8217;s a global vision &#8211; it&#8217;s the infidel West against the Muslim world.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>So yes&#8230; the enemy still exists.</p>
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		<title>By: Dc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 22:51:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for including that even larger perspective stix.  The &quot;West&quot;, long gave up it&#039;s Christian Crusades and became more secular and diverse in gov. In that sense,  the Islamists are fighting a battle against a &quot;West&quot;/enemy/identity that no longer exists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Thanks for including that even larger perspective stix.  The &#8220;West&#8221;, long gave up it&#8217;s Christian Crusades and became more secular and diverse in gov. In that sense,  the Islamists are fighting a battle against a &#8220;West&#8221;/enemy/identity that no longer exists.</p>
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		<title>By: stix1972</title>
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		<dc:creator>stix1972</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 22:41:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This GWOT is only a small battle that has &lt;a href=&quot;http://stix1972.typepad.com/stix_blog/2008/09/veni-vidi-deus.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;been going on for a long time.  &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; Ever since Islam has left the Arabian Penninsula, it has been mostly spread by the sword.   
I wrote a post about it on Sept. 12   Jan Sobieski Day.  It was on that day that the Pole Jan Sobieski saved Vienna from the invading Turks.  One of many battles between the West and Islam.

Spain at one time was overtook by the Islamists, and North Africa was Christian before the Islamists conquered it.  Most of Eastern Europe had been invaded and we hear stories of Vlad the Impaler, the saviour of Transylvania.   

This is not Bush&#039;s war or even a US War.  It is a long war between the West (mostly Christian) vs the Islamists that want to take over the world in the name Allah.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>This GWOT is only a small battle that has <a href="http://stix1972.typepad.com/stix_blog/2008/09/veni-vidi-deus.html" rel="nofollow"><b>been going on for a long time.  </b></a> Ever since Islam has left the Arabian Penninsula, it has been mostly spread by the sword.<br />
I wrote a post about it on Sept. 12   Jan Sobieski Day.  It was on that day that the Pole Jan Sobieski saved Vienna from the invading Turks.  One of many battles between the West and Islam.</p>
<p>Spain at one time was overtook by the Islamists, and North Africa was Christian before the Islamists conquered it.  Most of Eastern Europe had been invaded and we hear stories of Vlad the Impaler, the saviour of Transylvania.   </p>
<p>This is not Bush&#8217;s war or even a US War.  It is a long war between the West (mostly Christian) vs the Islamists that want to take over the world in the name Allah.</p>
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		<title>By: Dc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 22:33:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t mind. 

There are many, many thousands of stories to be told about that day that may never be told.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>I don&#8217;t mind. </p>
<p>There are many, many thousands of stories to be told about that day that may never be told.</p>
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