[...] I emboldened). Yet there are plenty of kool-aid drinkers out there, who will read this piece and others like it, and will walk away from it, (mis)citing it, as supporting the notion that Bush said Saddam [...]

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Quick Quiz

Who said this:

“I do believe that Iraq poses an imminent threat”
Clue: The statement was made by a U.S. Senator on the Floor of the Senate in 2002.
No fair Googling.

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Bush didn’t lie or manipulate intel to compel an invasion of Iraq
http://factcheck.org/article358.html

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Sky5110,

You’re yet to show any evidence to support your claims that Bush lied.

You keep repeating the same mantra over and over and over but you show no proof.

As to the article and your S-T-R-E-T-C-H-I-N-G of the facts to fit your template, remember that correlation does not establish causation.

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Per request, here are the people who authorized the Iraq War
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2002/roll455.xml
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=107&session=2&vote=00237

However, let’s be clear per the Washington Post and others, only a handful of Congressmen and perhaps a dozen senators signed in to read the classified National Intelligence Estimate that the Democratic Party controlled Senate demanded. Almost no one looked at the intelligence report. Most based their votes on the experience of the Clinton Admin with Iraq. Ironically, most of the NIE was based on Clinton era intel as well. Post invasion investigations found that from 12/98 (when KSM’s 911 plot was authorized by UBL) until late 2002 the U.S. had not a single human intelligence asset inside Iraq. The intel was based largely on satellite images which clearly show WMD facilities that had been attacked by the Clinton Admin in 12/98 were being rebuilt (I have the pics if anyone wants em).

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Is it time to post the long list of democrats that used the danger of Saddam to sell the war? You know, the ones that faltered when the going got tough. Thank God we have a leader in the White House.

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I didn’t stretch any facts…
that article was written by By Linda Feldmann | Staff writer of The Christian Science Monitor
I left the credit in there so you could see that… but you defend Bush so blindly you didn’t even see it..

Bush totally sold the Iraq war to the American people and 9/11 was on the the many lies he used to sell it.

at over 4,000 american soldiers lives and 10 billion dollars a month being wasted there..
No it was not even close to worth it.

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Wordsmith… here is where Bush in 2003 mislead the american public about Iraq…

Real American Patriot,

Interesting. I’ve been examining a WaPo piece which goes a bit more in depth on this same theme. Was thinking about doing a post on this topic.

I’ve been trying to figure out why so many Americans make that sort of connection, and why opponents like to trout out “there is no connection between Saddam and 9/11″, as if President Bush ever said there was. The notion that Saddam might have helped/known about the events of September 11th wasn’t part of the case put forth, as justification for war. Yet the public seems to have this collective amnesia, or brainwash. I think it’s a (mis)perception perpetuated by a lazy media who can’t fact check themselves. When the AP and NYTimes get it wrong, everyone else follows suit, because they are citing from each other.

I see absolutely no contradiction in mentioning 9/11 and Saddam’s Iraq in the same breath, let alone the same paragraph in a speech. And at the same time not implying operational links. Just examine the text of what the president said in his speeches. The threat of Saddam and why people would draw such links on their own, is because throughout the 90′s, the dangers of Saddam was part of our national psyche. That’s not the fault of the Bush Administration. People also need to take responsibility for misleading themselves into false assumptions and drawing wrong conclusions. From the very beginning, I supported the war without thinking Saddam helped to orchestrate 9/11 (although I didn’t rule out the possibility- who knows? Post-war investigations only confirms what we feared at the time: That “secular” Saddam was all too willing to work with Islamic terror groups to achieve common short term goals and interests). Given his love of wmds, his past history of usage, I don’t see much doubt that Saddam posed a growing and gathering threat in a post-9/11 world where terrorism is proven to work. Saddam could achieve the weapons capabilities; and deny culpability in using terrorist proxies to carry out attacks.

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You know Mike, I have no problem with an honest debater.

A dishonest debater, however, is a different story.

A person who will tweak and twist and flat out LIE about the facts in order to try and prove their point just sets me off.

There are several on this board who fall into this category.

Sky55110 / RAP is one of them.

He used to come in here under his first original screen name.

When he was shown to be a fool for the thousandth time he disappeared for awhile.

Then he shows back up under a shiny new screen name scattering the same drivel and bescumbering this site because he doesn’t have the courage to be who he really is.

I guess he figures if he can pretend to be something that he’s not in real life, he can do it here on the Net too.

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Aye: It’s clear that Certified Real American Patriot (or CRAP for short) can’t possibly understand the linkage between Saddam Hussein’s Iraq and terrorism even if we tried for a thousand years to convince him/her/it.

There may be no solid evidence that Saddam was behind 911 but there is a mountain of evidence linking Saddam to terrorism and to Osama bin Laden.

Even more salient than that is the fact that in addition to the terrorists in Iraq when we attacked to remove Saddam, our invasion drew out the Al Queda poison from across the region and led it straight into the noose where we killed or captured them by the tens of thousands.

If Obama and friends had had their way, those monsters we dispatched would have been free to find their way here across the open border these idiot Dems also support.

President Bush’s geostrategic vision on this issue rises above all these silly arguments put forward by the naysayers and defeatists on the left and it is the one history will record as the right and correct judgement.

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