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Probably a slip o’ the tongue, or an unconcious expression of frustration, but just as innocent as some Republican describing freshman Senator Obama as articulate. In any event, not a classy moment for the Democratic Party. No doubt about it, the left is not demonstrating their “open-armed” “open-minded” “liberal” soul. Nope.
Governor Palin’s lipstick moment is at about 3:30 in this one…
“Lipstick On A Pig” Update [Byron York]
The McCain campaign is holding a conference call with former Massachusetts Gov. Jane Swift, who is calling on Barack Obama to apologize to Sarah Palin for his “lipstick on a pig” comment. “We need to continually combat this stream of insults,” Swift said, referring specifically to “what I can only deem to be disgraceful comments comparing our vice presidential nominee, Gov. Palin, to a pig.”Reporters were a bit skeptical that Obama intended to do that; from the sketchy reports we have, he seemed to be talking about how John McCain can claim to represent change but isn’t really an agent of change. But Swift said, “it’s pretty clear the crowd thought that that was the insult he was leveling.” And Swift made the (hopefully) undeniable observation that Palin is the only one of the four national candidates who wears lipstick.
Obama must not have gotten the memo about the women voters that are currently jumping ship.
Obie givin’ Hillary! the finger:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DygBj4Zw6No
His Granny should have taught him more about respect toward women.
YOU COULD PUT LIPSTICK ON OBAMA, BUT WHO’D WANT TO WASTE THE LIPSTICK…OR THE TIME?
Reminiscent of when he was caught giving the finger to Hillery. this person is a thug nothing more nothing less, has no respect for anyone let alone women. CAN’T AFFORD THIS CREEP.
$^@#^%& SPAM filter x2
What a jerk!!! I suggest ALL WOMEN SEND OBAMA OUR LIPSTICK!!!!
Send him a message that we are voting for Palin. What a sexist PIG!!!
He is going to lose big among women!
It’s NOT the same, anonimoid troll. Calling a bad thing a “pig” is not the same as calling a person one, for no reason other than to attack her. And we aren’t whining, just pointing out what an immature classless petty ass Obama is.
Campaign is in freefall, maybe they should try and put some lipstick on their pig.
Man it was so much fun actually being there when she made that speech. The whole area was electric with excitement.
They do not show all the Michigan Delegates in their Hockey Jerseys with Michigan 08 on the back. I need to buy one of them.
“Obama: You can put lipstick on a pig, but it’s still a pig”
Translation: “I don’t want or need the woman vote.”
Man, Obama’s getting dumber by the day.
The “old fish” portion of his comment will get him in just as much, if not more, trouble than the “lipstick” portion.
Scott, as a side note, it wasn’t a Republican who referred to BO as clean and articulate.
That was Biden, the guy he chose to be his VP running mate.
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Are Obambis peeps really so stupid to believe that how a comment is perceived by the press counts more than what the voters think about it?
Soon he will have two women on his side, his wife and Oprah.
Obomaton,
Even the usually helpful MSM reporters made the immediate connection that voters throughout the country, especially women, are making in regards to BO’s comments.
You can spin and spin and try to weave yourself some damage control but this one is gonna be big.
All across the country this is reverberating right now.
Neighbors are calling neighbors.
Friends are talking to one another.
E-mail is being generated.
The blogs are revving up.
Sometimes it’s the littlest things that derail a train.
You may as well sit back and enjoy the ride.
Oprah, educated and smart women in the same sentence does not compute.
That is a good joke line though.
More respect for women from The One:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYkPpThfp7k&eurl=http://macsmind.com/wordpress/
why doesn’t the troll crawl back under their bridge. they freaking because obama is in a free fall. he is losing ground and if he keeps this up he won’t be elected president of his neighberhood association.
I think we got a comedian in the comment thread.
[wah wah snort huff wah] by ‘McCain said the same of Hillary’.
Hey, Mstsoh, you sort of sound like a…pig? But, I digress…
This is McCain’s statement ABOUT HILLARY’S PROPOSAL:
["I think they put some lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig," he said of her proposal.]
You can say that Obama just brought this statement out of the dusty political library of attack speeches, but one (on the Obummer campaign staff) would think that there’d be an expected uproar since Sarah Palin made a powerful statement about Pit Bulls and lipstick less than a week ago. So, what does that say about Obama’s judgement unless, in fact, he WAS making a direct reference to the person of Sarah Palin, one who is anything but a pig?
Ah yes we got a comedian in the house
Maybe Obama wasn’t being a jerk. Maybe he really is too dumb to know how that would be taken, and too dense to realize what the crowd thought he meant.
AHH the sexism of the left. Nothing like going after a women. Did you get them directly from Obama or Biden OR was that Olberman/Mathews.
OK, anonymoid brain-dead dimwit, let’s say for argument sake that Obama called the change she and McCain advocate “a pig” instead of her. Let’s look at the facts to see if Obama’s accusation holds water, or is itself a bit of pigvomit.
1. With regard to Palin, she has CUT EARMARKS and continues to try to do so, even to the point where the powerful Alaska senator, who could get almost as much in earmarks as he wanted, because as he says “Alaska [meaning Gov., Palin] doesn’t want earmarks.”
http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/09/02/barack-obama-powerless-to-bring-his-followers-to-decency/#comment-109370
2. McCain doesn’t get ANY earmarks, compared with Obama’s $$$$$$BILLION!!!
http://astuteblogger.blogspot.com/2008/06/obama-on-pace-for-1000000000000-billion.html
And I stand by what I said about O’Bumbler being an immature classless twit, about on your level or lower, as this video of the high school class clown giving Hillary the finger (everyone in the audiance knew what he meant).
Oh, and let’s not forget Biden,…
http://sigmundcarlandalfred.wordpress.com/2008/08/27/obama-directed-34-million-earmark-for-bidens-son/
…who is in it with his son and brother
http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/09/02/barack-obama-powerless-to-bring-his-followers-to-decency/#comment-109370
…who were just indicted for being crooks.
So, let’s summarize. Obama and Biden are for more of the same old corruption, while McCain and Palin are for reforming the system. O’Bumbler’s “change” is “the same, only a lot more so” while McCain’s is, Let’s do what we can to REALLY fix the problems.
Now, stoopid ignant troll, go slither, crawl, or hop away before someone steps on you.
Hmmmm.
So we’ve got a choice.
Either Obama is in fact an accomplished and highly educated orator who impresses one and all when speaking, which implies he meant precisely what we all think he meant, … -or- he’s a total boor who shouldn’t be allowed near a microphone.
Your choice.
Reading your postings is reminiscent of talking to a 6 year old. Get a life you dolt! There is zero substance to anything you are saying. I would recommend using logic, but I suspect that may be above your pay grade.
And this is comong form someone that can’t spell Hillary
oops, that first link in my last comment (to show Palin has CUT earmarks to the point that she has upset Alaska’s Senator Stevens who wants a lot more) should have been this….
http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/09/02/barack-obama-powerless-to-bring-his-followers-to-decency/#comment-109499
Wow what a bundle of laughs.
Do you really think that the polar bears are in trouble, and that shooting wolves will harm the wildlife. There are more Polar bears than ever before, at least since they counted them. How can the be endangered. And the wolves are killing the caribou and starving native Inuits and other native tribes.
Man the talking points are sure are funny tonight.
anonymoid brain-dead dimwit doesn’t want to deal with the material I sent in because it will make him look like the fool he is.
And what about the wolves? Predators are dangerous and kill livestock, destroying people’s work and endangering them. But the morons who love destruction are never in favor of anything productive, so enjoy the CNN hit piece, then you can have your mommie change your little nappy and give you a bottle.
Meanwhile, if you get stepped on, don’t say I didn’t warn you.
Obama doesn’t do stress well. That’s why he chain smokes and makes gaff when he isn’t reading the teleprompter. Right now Obama doesn’t look like a man offering hope or change. He now looks like a bitter and broken man screaming, “I could have been a contender.”
His anger is what’s really driving those people away. These people don’t even know McCain and Palin, but they know desperation when they see it.
“You can put lipstick on a pig,” he said as the crowd cheered. “It’s still a pig.” “You can wrap an old fish in a piece of paper called change. It’s still gonna stink.”
Does anyone actually believe this wasn’t planned in advanced? It’s offensive and the point is to generate deniable outrage to hijack the narrative and put his own spin on the last news cycle. The media are carrying his water big time.
the comedian is back
Yes we hear the talking points,
So what, Obama mocked Palin, or maybe he didn’t. But that’s not what everyone will be talking about tomorrow– They’ll be talking about McCain’s new attack ad:
http://sahil-says.blogspot.com/2008/09/mccain-ad-obama-for-sex-education-in.html
Aldo Leopold, a “poet” ooooooooh, he must be so much wiser than you (which I can believe, ’cause he’s got you hoodwinked into thinking so).
Now, how about those nasty things called “facts” that always escape you Lefties, till they disurb your reveries like sand in the gears of your overtaxed little brains which brings your “thought” process (such as it is) to a hault, and forces you to lapse into fantasy mode where you can wander about unhindered by reality.
“…we’re shorsighted and stupid”
Yes, you are.
If you are prepared to elect someone who’s friends and associates …
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/viewSubCategory.asp?id=800
are nearly ALL liars, crooks, terrorists, con-artists, and other assorted low-lifes
http://www.theodoresworld.net/archives/2008/04/post_32.html
…just because some poet is sad at the death of a wolf, then you are REALLY short sighted and VERY stoopid!!!!
Ahhh, but it “FEELS” sooo right, doesn’t it?! Yeah, and when you can’t think, you rely on your feelings to tell you what to do. Except, that puts you at the mercy of those who can manipulate those feelings, like “poets” and con-artists and two-bit hack politicians like Obama who has never accomplished anything positive, but has hurt an awful lot of his constituents.
In cahoots with Rezko and other Chicago crooks O’Bummer rewarded incompetance and allowed his constituents’ neighborhoods to deteriorate in order to enrich himself and his crooked friends.
http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2008/08/mr-obamas-neighborhood.html
You claim to be worried about stewardship of the planet and want to elect such a derelict? You’re not just stoopid, you’re soul-dead.
Sounds like Obama would be at home touring with Russell Brand the famed Mtv VMA host, they both do not seem to understand what is offensive to Americans. That was a joke he should have told in Germany or maybe the U.K. I guess Mr. Clean Campaign is a thing of the past. I hate seeing a grown man resort to calling an opposing V.P. candidate and her following of “hockey moms” PIGS!!! I am now disgusted – I thought he would be a little more cool under pressure, but as it turns out he goes off the deep end the 1st time he is behind in the polls… PIGS? PIGS? Way to embarrass the democrat party yet again, name calling is for children – maybe you are not ready for the Presidency. This marks the moment that you have become a has-been! Maybe Brand will allow you to lay low at his “flat” for a while??? You should have just made fun of virgins and the chastity & abstinence of a boy band. IDIOT!
Is this supposed to be funny.
And I guess those German and English votes will do really good in November.
you are really winning over some votes here with all this BS.
Global Warming is a natural thing and it is going to start cooling again.
Maybe you should take another hit from the bong with these idiotic videos
Nope. Never heard of it.
RE: Yonason
That is exactly my point, who cares about what the world wants – of course the world will want a democrat leading the U.S., tradionally there are far more handouts under a democrat administration… I guess it would be in their best interest to push for Obama. This guy has virtually no experience, questionable personal associations and no political substance. I really can’t understand how anyone can take this campaign seriously? I won’t question his patriotism but I do question his judgement or, lack there of… As each day passes and he adds NOT ONE one reason to cast a vote in his favor, his true colors are increasingly shining through. He is a stuffed suit with no plan for our country other than to raise the taxes and have Americans depend more on social programs and government direction even more so than they do now. Change? Socialism is not the change we should be looking for…
“what? was there a purpose to your ramblings?”
Sorry for talking over your head there, little feller.
Here, I’ll sumarize it for you.
You can’t think, you can only feel.
You are therefore mislead by those who can manipulate your feelings.
There is a huge discrepency between what you say you want to accomplish, and the behavior and abilities of the one who you tell us can accomplish it.
You are unable to see that because you are unable to think and are misled by your feelings.
It is therefore you who have the problem, not us.
Is that too complicated for you iddy biddy brain? Yes, it is? Oh, poor baby, let me condense it a little more for you.
You are a shallow, clueless and soul-dead idiot.
p.s., buh bye, now. We’re done.
I had enough of hitting my head against the wall with this troll also. he brought nothing to the conversation except talking points from the DNC and Obama campaign.
“Being drunk and stupid is no way to live your life”
GunnyA
A while back O’Bumpkin tried to get people to think he could “fix” America by getting it “back” to what it someday “could be” so we could “restore” our “leadership” in the world. His prescription to become that “leader?” To FOLLOW Europe. Talk about circular reasoning.
And that proves that his followers aren’t thinking about what he says, because if they did they would realize he isn’t saying anything.
““Being drunk and stupid is no way to live your life”” — stix1972
Yeah, but it makes them FEEEEEEL so good, …..at least till they sober up, if that’s possible.
McCain’s statement was not similar to that of Obama in context. Obama fscked up. Period. And no troll can change that. Lest the troll gets his sinuses cleansed with a Mossberg.
As far as the polls that are here and now, well…nothing is certain until after the 1st pres debates and the VP Debates.
So, until that time, the polls can go shove it.
“Don’t see it as a total waste of time however, you humored me, kind of fun to play with such small minds.”
Oh good grief! Is that moonbat STILL at it?
So much for his/her/it’s much ballyhooed insistence that we should be talking about the “issues.” All I’ve seen from that fingerpointer is a stream of insults.
Ah well, when the bloom is off the Obama rose and the public has turned away from the false prophet and is admiring a REAL and authentic candidate like Sarah Palin I guess insults are all the left is left with.
Wow… just caught up with some of this thread, and see I’ve missed the entrance and exit of yet another stellar example of the brain power of the DNC voter. Well, I needed a laugh today anyway.
Too bad. I was dying to know what McCain had said about Hilary Duff. Because I’m quite sure that both Senators Hillary Clinton and John McCain have behaved graciously toward each other throughout this campaign.
whats really funny about this is he plagerized it as well
i see he has been learning the ropes from Biden
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2078854/posts
LOL the number of gaffes this guys does, if the media were half as critical of him as they were of Dan Quayle, he would have been toast MONTHS ago
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IF liberals hated America.
LOL
Check out what the democrats have posted on their official website, quick before they take it down. It appears the Obamabots knew exactly what he was talking about.
http://www.democrats.org/page/community/post/elizabethberry/Cgsq
Witness post #64 everyone, and the pits to which Obama’s fans must resort.
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Obama isn’t so stupid as to not understand why the crowd rose and appaulded when he uttered the “lipstick on a pig” line. It really wasn’t that great, especially if you assume it not to be an insult. If he had been smart, he would have put an end to it right there. At least with one of those “no no no no” lines that he does so well, but instead he just went on.
It was rude, lewd and totally unprofessional.
And Howard Dean should leave the country.
Wow man you changed my mind. I am going to vote for the Obamassih with these comments.
Can we just ban this ass???? I am tired os seeing this BS in my email box every minute.
Your Childish comments are just as bad as the rest of Obama’s followers going after Palin.
The comment page is going to descend into nothing, if you continue to allow posters to post under many names in the same post. Please this site is to good and important to every day political life for that. some of the trash must be cleaned up. I’m not advocating censorship, just make them post under one and only one nic.
jainphx,
what they don’t realize, and fail to grasp is that every post they make on this thread, puts the words “Obama: You can put lipstick on a pig, but it’s still a pig” higher and higher in search engine ratings, and brings more of the world his words, his arrogance, and the plasticity of their annointed one more into the light of the world.
Make no mistake about it, I dislike their whining as much or more than others-mainly because it’s troll whining that just posts and runs. However, with their comments, and the stats their comments bring, more people see just how little steak there is Senator Obama.
Keep posting people, it’s free advertising for McCain, and makes even more people repel against Senator Obama.
Have you all lost your minds?
This saying is older than my grandfather. McCain uses it all the time.
It is not about women.
Idiom Definition for ‘Put lipstick on a pig’
Meaning:
If people put lipstick on a pig, they make superficial or cosmetic changes, hoping that it will make the product more attractive.
http://www.usingenglish.com/reference/idioms/put+lipstick+on+a+pig.html
Sid, I agree and said so in the original post. However, once Sarah Palin associated herself w “lipstick”/made herself synonymous with the word in the race, it took on a new perspective. The crowd CLEARLY thought he was making an insult that they liked. As I said, I don’t think he meant it to be an insult. I think he used an old phrase in an inappropriate manner-innappropriate because it was associated/synonymous with his opponent. Some words just take on different meanings when used in the wrong context. If someone describes someone else as “uppity” “articulate” or “clean” it can be perfectly benign, but if the person who the comments are about is African-American….it can be misconstrued as an insult. Sarah Palin wasn’t the direct object in Sen Obama’s comments, but McCain/Palin policies were, and thus she was at leas the IO. Ultimately, words this unimportant should never be hard to apologize for saying. If it is, then the person who said them has a problem with recognizing when people are offended. That kinda person is too arrogant to lead imo.
Now this should be a source of embarrassment:
Can someone say….“plagiarism”?:
Yes, you can.
Do any Liberals have any mind of their own??? Just asking. Biden, Obama, Michelle Obama and the rest f them just keep on plagiarizing everyone elese’s speeches.
they have not had anew idea in 40 years or more either. Obama’s change is the same old Liberal utopia of the 60′s.
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Complete Obama quote : “John McCain says he’s about change too, and so I guess his whole angle is, ‘Watch out George Bush — except for economic policy, health care policy, tax policy, education policy, foreign policy and Karl Rove-style politics — we’re really going to shake things up in Washington,’” he said.
“That’s not change. That’s just calling something the same thing something different. You know you can put lipstick on a pig, but it’s still a pig. You know you can wrap an old fish in a piece of paper called change, it’s still going to stink after eight years. We’ve had enough of the same old thing.”
Where’s the reference to Sarah Palin? There isn’t any. It’s a common phrase and Obama even explained the context. So common even John McCain has been known to use it.
John McCain: In Iowa last October, McCain drew comparisons between Hillary Clinton’s current health care plan and the one she championed in 1993: “I think they put some lipstick on the pig, but it’s still a pig.” He used the same line in May.
McCain has proposed to bankrupt the country even faster than Bush with bigger tax cuts for the wealthiest 1% and more tax breaks for fossil fuel industries. Think any of that would trickle down to the rest of us? He’ll give you a tax “credit” less than half what it takes to go out and buy health insurance for your family but you’re on your own after that. He thinks we can throw the Russians out of the G8 when in fact the Russians would have to vote themselves out. Even the Bush Administration thinks that’s nutty. Everyone from the Iraqi government to the Bush Administration has adopted Obama’s timetable for getting out of Iraq but McCain still wants to stay for four, a hundred or a thousand years, or whatever it is this week.
Pigs will fly before any of that works.
Markg8, I can’t say for any certainty that he meant to call Sarah Palin a pig; but unless he just isn’t that bright, and I think he is a bright man, he HAD to have known that in wake of Palin’s popularity and hoopla surrounding her pitbull/lipstick comment, that using this common expression under these circumstances…it’s innuendo and a double entendre.
“This saying is older than my grandfather. McCain uses it all the time.
It is not about women.” — Sid Wishes
Funny thing about a living language, Sid, is that it is “plastic,” i.e., you can use it “creatively.” And this is about as “creative” as the Left gets, making a simple-minded barely-high-school-level dip-wad wise-crack.
You see, if Palin had never made that Pit-Bull Hockey-Mom self-deprecating/praising remark, O’Bama would probably never have changed it from Pit-Bull to Pig. But, he did. AND, his audiance laughed knowingly, and… “NBC Nightly News reported the audience at an Obama event “actually started chanting no more pit bull”.”.
And it isn’t as if O’Bumbler doesn’t have a history of such crude and tasteless attacks. Here we see the loser give Hillary the finger, and the audience knew EXACTLY what he was doing then, too.
And now he has to waste so much precious time trying to undo the damage, …time that he could be spending talking about the issues. And that’s probably fine with him, too, since he has nothing worth saying about them, anyway, so there’s really no loss.
So, you see, Sid, you can spin it however you want, but U B WRONG, DUD!
CODE WORD “LIPSTICK”
“Where’s the reference to Sarah Palin?” — markg8
It’s the act of putting on lipstick, and O’Bummer’s sick joke is that he switches a pig for a pitbull. He also uses a decoy subject, but it was obvious to his audience what he was doing, and since he didn’t correct them, that means he meant it the way they took it.
If you’re so dense you can’t see what O’Bumpkin was doing, no wonder you’re voting for him. And, since his audience not only got it, but laughed at it, it’s also no wonder they are voting for that sleezebag, even though they are cleary smarter than you, though not by much.
See my previous post on this, when they dig it out of the spam-filter.
“Everyone from the Iraqi government to the Bush Administration has adopted Obama’s timetable for getting out of Iraq” — markg8
Bush, McCain and other Reps thought of it first, but somehow it’s Obama’s plan? LOLOL What a HOOT!!!
O’Bummer makes up half a dozen different scenarios, trying to find one that people like until he finally copies one from McCain, and he claims it was his original idea, and you believe him???!!! Only the dimmest of bulbs would think that was a bright idea. The fact is that O’Bungler got it wrong from the get-go, and now he’s latched onto someone else’s idea and claims it was his!!! He’s an idiot.
Leaving Iraq has always been predicated on success, and O’Blooper NEVER factored success into ANY of his alleged “plans” (I doubt he even has an understanding of what real success actually is). He STILL can’t admit the surge (that he opposed) has worked, and that without it no draw-down would be happening now. If anything about the current plan looks even remotely like anything the silly one said, it is pure coincidence, nothing more.
Go back and look at his original “Run Away, Run Away” plan, and compare the disaster that would have resulted to what has actually happened by NOT doing things his way. Better yet, don’t. You might hurt yourself.
And, nothing about any of O’Bullspitter’s plans had anything to do with “conditions” determining when draw-downs should occur, so the bottom line is that bottom feeder or his surrogates are full of garbage, as are you for believing them.
I agree let’s send the Obama campaign our lipstick
What a Moron he knew exactly what he was doing.
I despise that idiot
In no way do I condone this kind of comment, but each side is going to slip up. That seems to be the name of the game in America, calling the kettle black. It’s very sensationalist of you all to get so upset over one thing, when there really are bigger problems at hand, in all of the current parties.
If you want to hit him where it hurts, make fun of his foreign policies or something like that. You know, the issues. Those things you all forgot about? And listen:
http://fromtheleft.wordpress.com/2008/04/08/mccain-calls-his-wife-a-cunt/
-It’s essentially the same story, only from a different perspective. “Oooooh look at him he hates women!”
Your comments are almost identical to the ones on that website, yet this fact seems to elude you. All of, even on that site.
Uggh.
I’m not upset. I think it was a mistake for whats-her-name to demand an apology and for my team to get so “huffy and puffy” bent out of shape over this.
Palin herself, should just laugh it off and joke about it.
Just because this is talked about (you want to know how to make an issue disappear? Quit talking about it….yet you couldn’t help but leave a comment, drawing attention to this thread, yet again) doesn’t mean the actual issues aren’t being talked about as well. It’s all part of the political game. character matters, background history, AND the issues. And Obama, the supposed “new kind of politician of change”, is playing the game well, straight out of the “Karl Rovian” playbook and Chicago-style dirty politics. Obama’s no more “holier than thou” than the next politician.
If you want to hit him where it hurts, make fun of his foreign policies or something like that. You know, the issues. Those things you all forgot about?” — Patrick Murphy
Whaddya think I’m doing when I point out that he’s claiming credit for a foreign policy that isn’t his? …and also pointing out where his is wrong?
You Lefties are totally out to lunch, accusing us of not dealing with the issues when we are.
And, speaking of “issues” what exactly are you doing, if not deviating even further from issues than you accuse us of doing? You either don’t know what you are talking about, or are being deliberately disruptive, which I think is the more likely case.
If you want this to be on issues, why don’t you drop a line to O’Bumbkin and tell him to lay off the cheap shots he uses to attack people rather than ideas, and especially ideas that aren’t even the ones the people he’s attacking actually hold. And, as far as issues, if you look at what I’ve written above you will see I’ve addressed quite a few, in addition to the silliness that O’Bummer descended to.
@Wordsmith, I totally agree. It looks bad for her to demand an apology, but she honestly does deserve one. This country needs some civility, especially from our potential leaders. Whether Obama’s comment was just a joke gone wrong, or an actual insult, it was a bad move on his part.
The thread may have lost its lustre, but it’s still an issue. I heard just recently about this, so it’s not like the issue has gone away. That’s why I decided to weigh in.
-I see your point though. It’s all part of the game, but it’s weird that it is. We’re not going to be run by Obama’s or McCain’s off-handed comments. We’re going to be run according to his policies, his platforms. If there were a candidate with a policy that could put an end to national debt, bring world peace, and put an ice cream cone in every American’s hand, then I wouldn’t care if he (or she) called someone a name, or made a vaguely offensive comment about the other candidate, because those things don’t (or at the very least shouldn’t) matter.
Now…
“You Lefties are totally out to lunch, accusing us of not dealing with the issues when we are.”
First, may I respond with the fact that 1…2…3…4… oh, about the first 37 responses to this article were nothing but “Wow, Obama sure does suck.” That was what I was referring to when I said that these people aren’t dealing with the issues.
Second: yes, because it was always clearly defined that I’m even on the Left. That’s another thing wrong here: jumping straight to political lines. “The Lefts are…” “Those crazy Rights…” I’m not representing my party, I’m representing me. Don’t blame my supposed party for what I say, blame me.
I’m trying to deal with this…nonsense because if someone doesn’t point out that this is an irrelevant topic to discuss, then you guys won’t ever stop.
If I may bring some sort of analogy to this: Iraq sucks. Bush’s job is to run America, not to get involved with Iraq, but if he doesn’t do anything about it, it will get worse. Now obviously that plan didn’t quite work out, but ideally, it should have. Same here: I’m trying to stop something that, if left unchecked, will result in skewed and uneducated opinions about a political candidate who should be judged on policy rather than off-handed remarks.
O’Bummer…wait, are you referring to Bill O’Reilly, or Barack Obama? Either way, your pet names aren’t witty. You’re not in third grade.
You know Patrick you put up a fairly well reasoned argument until you say that we “aren’t dealing with the issues.”
There are pages and pages and pages and pages of threads related to the “issues” including the page that this thread is currently on.
Obama has a long and demonstrable history of sexism. His lipstick moment was just another piece of that chain and, yes, his sexist attitude toward women is a valid “issue.”
Then, the remainder of your argument gets derailed when you say:
Have you been following the progress in Iraq lately?
Or have you fallen victim to a lack of knowledge which has “result[ed] in [a] skewed and uneducated opinion”?
You shouldn’t feel comfortable enough here to think you can come in and crap on our rug and then expect to not get called on it.
“…this is an irrelevant topic to discuss,…” — Patrick Murphy
No, it’s not. It points out what a childish twit O’Bummer is. (and I’ll use whatever cute little names I chose to characterize that jerk.) He gave Hillary the finger, (as Aye Chyhuahua pointed out in the first post above),
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DygBj4Zw6No
…and he and the appreciative jerks in his audience knew what he was doing. It is important to realize that he is a childish twit. No sleeze is beneath his “dignity.” Someone whose “humor” is straight out of the toilet is NOT the kind of person I want in the White House.
“First, may I respond with the fact that 1…2…3…4… oh, about the first 37 responses to this article were nothing but ‘Wow, Obama sure does suck’.” — P.M.
As I just pointed out, post #1 by AyeChyhuahua cites a video where O’Bozo acts like a nasty child, something that’s important to know about him. The ‘FACT’ is that you ignored that, and sought to mis-characterize it as irrelevant. That’s why I call you a Lefty, because you distort or dismiss what others say when it doesn’t suit your narrative.
Aye also shows (#14) the video where O’Bumpkin says “hold on a second, SWEETIE” to a female reporter, and then never does answer her question.
So, since all this is a reflection of his “character” (or, rather, lack thereof), it is important for people to know about, and get a clear appreciation of just how immature, mean and petty he is.
He does “suck.” He is a schmuck. And you are a Lefty. Deal with it.