Question…if I had unquestionable proof that the world would end as we know it in 20 years, would I:

a) share the knowledge openly and freely to save mankind
b) make the knowledge proprietary and keep my models in a “black box”

Just curious.

Anyway, as Jimmy Doolittle said of a “climate scientist” of his day: “His assumptions exceeded his scientific abilities.”

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I say right now, we start calling this the Al Gore Minimum! I do think it’s funny that many scientists are now hedging their bets and chaging from the Global Warming mantra, to Climate Change, because they don’t want to be left out in the cold….so to speak! And I agree with some that in a few years, old Al “the debat is over” Gore will just take his 2 CO2 and Temp graphs, that are shifted by 800 years……and he’ll just flip one of them backwards and say “See, greenhouse gasses cause global cooling!”

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If we have Global warming going on, per Al Gore, and you add to the mix a mini ice age, what will be the outcome?

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Not to tear you away from your reality, John A…. but all that dry lightening that may or may not have been the result of maximum high/maximum low sunspots in Yellowstone? Wouldn’t do a thing today.

Strike a match in an unkept, overgrown underbrush and it burns. Now there’s no fuel to burn in northern Yellowstone.

Mother Nature’s being using fire as a forest clean up long before man came around with his little red truck and water hoses. I rode all thru Yellowstone in 1990 (coming back from Sturgis 50th – a biker tradition is to run the park and stay for awhile if you’re headed west). Yes, the fire damage was there. But it will regenerate. I’m quite sure the “devastation” you saw recently was not nearly as striking as what I saw just years after the fire. Oddly enough, even that had an odd beauty.

Sometimes man becomes too fixated on our little miniscule spot in time, assuming all is catastrophe… when actually it is nothing more than nature, doing her thing.

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I just returned from visiting Yellowstone and was struck by the devastation of the 1988 fires, which were preceeded by acute drought and record setting dry lightening. I began to wonder what solar activity occured leading up the 1988 fire storms. Solar cycle 22 started just a couple of years before that summer of drought and dry lightening. Check this out. Relative to other cycles, that solar cycle had 1) a very fast rise time – 2.8 years, 2) a very short cycle length – 9.7 years, 3) a high minimum sun spot number – 12.3, and 4) a high maximum sun spot number – 158.5
more:
“Cycle 22 certainly provided us with many highlights. Early in the cycle the smoothed sunspot number (determined by the number of sunspots visible on the sun and used as the traditional measure of the cycle) climbed rapidly; in fact more rapidly than for any previously recorded cycle. This caused many to predict that it would eclipse Cycle 19 (peak sunspot number of 201) as the highest cycle on record. This was not to be as the sunspot number ceased climbing in early 1989 and reached a maximum in July of that year. Whilst not of record amplitude, Cycle 22 still rated as 4th of the recorded cycles and continued the run of recent large solar cycles (Cycles 18, 19 and 21 were all exceptional!). A very notable feature of Cycle 22 was that it had the shortest rise from minimum to maximum of any recorded cycle.”
Material Prepared by Richard Thompson. © Copyright IPS – Radio and Space Services.

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Daniel: I hope you are on our side.

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I just read a new article by David Hathaway via SC24 homepage. He said that an increase in sunspot activity does not produce any significant solar irradiation. The variation in watts per square metre is very low. I think most of us uneducated dummies know that. What he avoided to mention was the indirect affect of low sunspot numbers, i.e. more cloud cover sheltering our planet as it did in the Maunder Minimum (dark ages).

Satellite Global temperature anomalies (not the GISS rubbish) have showed a cooling trend since 1998, despite the fact that we have done nothing to reduce man made emissions. 1998 was the tip of the GISS “Hockey Stick Graph”. Our politiicans and media have been shelterd form the figures beyond 1998 for good reason.

If you look at the historical sunspot cycle pattern it is clear that the sun is overdue for a rest. The affect caused by the lack of current solar activity appears to be kicking in and is very likely to make our next few winters ones to remember. There are 32,000 very worried tax payer funded GW scientists out there at the moment

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Maybe the US government is holding off the supernova of our Sun under my direction and I decided to bring on a good old fashioned winter last year. The no sunspots is bothering me though. I think that indicates something is going very wrong with the chemistry of the Sun.

By the way I invented hurricane control several years ago. Strontium hydroxide sprayed into the clouds of a hurricane by air tankers cause the hurricane to drop to a level 1. I thought they were going to back hurricane Gustov up and run over Cuba several times. On September 1, 2008 my solar program for incoming supernova blast wave was being tested and hurricane Gustov almost fell out of the sky. The thousands of men with the marshal law plan for the United States were disappointed. Maybe next time fellows. They were hoping hurricane Gustov would strengthen to a level 5 and on another time line that would have happened. Hurricanes are a beast twice conquered by me. And I am the man of wisdom right out of the book of Revelation. The Apocalyse is 11 years old this year.

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Stephen Ames shows a link to a picture of some spots on the sun but I don’t believe these were offically recorded as sunspots. I may be wrong but I believe I read someplace they didn’t last long enough to be officially classified as sunspots for the record.

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You mean there was a teensie weensie sun spot?

OK, toss out the entire thesis that the sun’s variability has any impact on the Earth!

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