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		<title>By: Scott Malensek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Malensek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 10:48:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gina, &quot;MANDATE&quot; is a VERY good description of the arrogance.

Nicely said</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Gina, &#8220;MANDATE&#8221; is a VERY good description of the arrogance.</p>
<p>Nicely said</p>
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		<title>By: Gina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 06:25:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>THE DEMOCRATS AND THE LEFTIST MEDIA MISINFORM THE PUBLIC ON PURPOSE ...
The so called political experts, like CNN&#039;s Bill Schneider ... or CNN&#039;s ultra biased Jack Cafferty, say that if a Republican is elected it will divide America. They try to imply that Obama is the candidate who would bring America together ... but, Obama is the most divisive candidate I have ever seen. He even split his own democratic party in half. And, although the democrats try to act as if he has some kind of American mandate, the split between Obama and McCain fluctuates at around 50/50. Keep America strong, and genuine ... elect McCain/Palin in November. No Wright, no Farrakahn, no Ayers, no Rezko, no mean Michelle, NOBAMA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>THE DEMOCRATS AND THE LEFTIST MEDIA MISINFORM THE PUBLIC ON PURPOSE &#8230;<br />
The so called political experts, like CNN&#8217;s Bill Schneider &#8230; or CNN&#8217;s ultra biased Jack Cafferty, say that if a Republican is elected it will divide America. They try to imply that Obama is the candidate who would bring America together &#8230; but, Obama is the most divisive candidate I have ever seen. He even split his own democratic party in half. And, although the democrats try to act as if he has some kind of American mandate, the split between Obama and McCain fluctuates at around 50/50. Keep America strong, and genuine &#8230; elect McCain/Palin in November. No Wright, no Farrakahn, no Ayers, no Rezko, no mean Michelle, NOBAMA</p>
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		<title>By: Senator Barack Obama &#124; African American Portal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Senator Barack Obama &#124; African American Portal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 18:22:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Barack Obama Powerless to Bring His Followers To Decency [...]</description>
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		<title>By: jpm100</title>
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		<dc:creator>jpm100</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 10:26:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Senator Obama is powerless to control or influence his followers (is he really their leader then?).&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I believe he is there leader.  

This is simply Chicago Politics, Obama Style.  

Agree to a cease fire and attack at dawn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><blockquote><p>Senator Obama is powerless to control or influence his followers (is he really their leader then?).</p></blockquote>
<p>I believe he is there leader.  </p>
<p>This is simply Chicago Politics, Obama Style.  </p>
<p>Agree to a cease fire and attack at dawn.</p>
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		<title>By: Palin&#8217;s &#8220;muscular world of action&#8230;&#8221; &#124; The Anchoress</title>
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		<dc:creator>Palin&#8217;s &#8220;muscular world of action&#8230;&#8221; &#124; The Anchoress</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 07:52:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Aces notes that Obama&#8217;s first attempt at forceful leadership has failed, as the press and the libs refuse to leave Palin&#8217;s family [...]</description>
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		<title>By: yonason</title>
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		<dc:creator>yonason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 04:48:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What it is, is &lt;b&gt;prima facie&lt;/b&gt; evidence that dougy is a clueless moonbat.

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/politics/2004064752_alaskaearmarks11m.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Alaska governor to request &lt;em&gt;&lt;b&gt;FEWER&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/em&gt; earmarks.&lt;/A&gt;
. . . . . 
Rehfeld said she believes the state government annually made more than 100 earmark requests of the congressional delegation in previous years. She said the request for this year, the first under Palin, was for more than 50 earmarks.&quot; (article from Dec, 2007)&lt;/blockquote&gt;

She cut the request for appropriations in half.  She IS  a reformer.  But dougy doesn&#039;t understand what Mata explained quite clearly, that eliminating spending isn&#039;t possible, but eliminating wasteful spending is.  And THAT is what Palin is committed to, and what she is doing, successfully.

Dougy&#039;s Mom - Quick call 911!
Dougy&#039;s Sister - What happened Mom
Dougy&#039;s Mom - Dougy hurt himself on a big word.
Dougy&#039;s Sister - AGAIN!?
Dougy&#039;s Mom - Yes. I just hope he doesn&#039;t need surgery this time.
_______________________________________________________

Alaska Senator Stevens, one of the appropriations committee chair persons, sure doesn&#039;t make Palin look bad when he says... &lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;em&gt;&quot;It is a difficult thing to get over right now, the feeling that we don&#039;t represent Alaska because &lt;b&gt;Alaska doesn&#039;t want earmarks&lt;/b&gt;,&quot;... http://www.adn.com/front/story/343660.html&lt;/em &lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;

Cat is out of the bag, and it&#039;s time for dougy to clean the litter box!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>What it is, is <b>prima facie</b> evidence that dougy is a clueless moonbat.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;<a HREF="http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/politics/2004064752_alaskaearmarks11m.html" rel="nofollow">Alaska governor to request <em><b>FEWER</b></em> earmarks.</a><br />
. . . . .<br />
Rehfeld said she believes the state government annually made more than 100 earmark requests of the congressional delegation in previous years. She said the request for this year, the first under Palin, was for more than 50 earmarks.&#8221; (article from Dec, 2007)</p></blockquote>
<p>She cut the request for appropriations in half.  She IS  a reformer.  But dougy doesn&#8217;t understand what Mata explained quite clearly, that eliminating spending isn&#8217;t possible, but eliminating wasteful spending is.  And THAT is what Palin is committed to, and what she is doing, successfully.</p>
<p>Dougy&#8217;s Mom &#8211; Quick call 911!<br />
Dougy&#8217;s Sister &#8211; What happened Mom<br />
Dougy&#8217;s Mom &#8211; Dougy hurt himself on a big word.<br />
Dougy&#8217;s Sister &#8211; AGAIN!?<br />
Dougy&#8217;s Mom &#8211; Yes. I just hope he doesn&#8217;t need surgery this time.<br />
_______________________________________________________</p>
<p>Alaska Senator Stevens, one of the appropriations committee chair persons, sure doesn&#8217;t make Palin look bad when he says&#8230;<br />
<blockquote><em>&#8220;It is a difficult thing to get over right now, the feeling that we don&#8217;t represent Alaska because <b>Alaska doesn&#8217;t want earmarks</b>,&#8221;&#8230; <a href="http://www.adn.com/front/story/343660.html&lt;/em" rel="nofollow">http://www.adn.com/front/story/343660.html&lt;/em</a> </em></p></blockquote>
<p>Cat is out of the bag, and it&#8217;s time for dougy to clean the litter box!</p>
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		<title>By: MataHarley</title>
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		<dc:creator>MataHarley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 04:31:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While we&#039;re comparing earmark cash...  This is the paragraph you didn&#039;t cut and paste.  

&lt;blockquote&gt;The McCain campaign said Tuesday that Palin realized that Alaska was too reliant on earmarks and ordered state officials to cut back on their requests. &lt;b&gt;It also said Obama requested nearly $1 billion in earmarks over three years for Illinois — a state with nearly 20 times the population of Alaska.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Sounds dastardly, doesn&#039;t it?  Well, I for one, would want to know when Obama had time in his campaigning rock tour to request earmarks for his IL constituents in the last year and a half.  But I&#039;ll give him the benefit of the doubt.  Let&#039;s say that $1 bil is $33 mil each year, okay?

IL has a population of 12,419,293 (using the same 2000 stats I used above...).  That makes Obama&#039;s earmarks at $266 per person, and Palin&#039;s at $298.

But IL roads and other projects eligible for federal funds are not nearly as maintenance intensive as the Alaskan roads due to the location, topography and weather.

So you&#039;re really not talking about much difference between the two... meaning if you believe Obama is fiscally responsible as the Congressional grantor, then Palin is fiscally responsible as the grantee.

Except that Palin&#039;s request for funds has been declining on the record.  Can you say the same for Obama&#039;s?  

Oh wait... he hasn&#039;t even been in the Capitol Bldg enough days in his term to establish that record.   In fact, since taking his Senate seat, he&#039;s spent two out of his three years campaigning.  DOH!   

Never mind.  Maybe he had a very expensive FIRST year.  Uh, that would be over $800 per person.  Now where have I heard that figure before?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>While we&#8217;re comparing earmark cash&#8230;  This is the paragraph you didn&#8217;t cut and paste.  </p>
<blockquote><p>The McCain campaign said Tuesday that Palin realized that Alaska was too reliant on earmarks and ordered state officials to cut back on their requests. <b>It also said Obama requested nearly $1 billion in earmarks over three years for Illinois — a state with nearly 20 times the population of Alaska.</b></p></blockquote>
<p>Sounds dastardly, doesn&#8217;t it?  Well, I for one, would want to know when Obama had time in his campaigning rock tour to request earmarks for his IL constituents in the last year and a half.  But I&#8217;ll give him the benefit of the doubt.  Let&#8217;s say that $1 bil is $33 mil each year, okay?</p>
<p>IL has a population of 12,419,293 (using the same 2000 stats I used above&#8230;).  That makes Obama&#8217;s earmarks at $266 per person, and Palin&#8217;s at $298.</p>
<p>But IL roads and other projects eligible for federal funds are not nearly as maintenance intensive as the Alaskan roads due to the location, topography and weather.</p>
<p>So you&#8217;re really not talking about much difference between the two&#8230; meaning if you believe Obama is fiscally responsible as the Congressional grantor, then Palin is fiscally responsible as the grantee.</p>
<p>Except that Palin&#8217;s request for funds has been declining on the record.  Can you say the same for Obama&#8217;s?  </p>
<p>Oh wait&#8230; he hasn&#8217;t even been in the Capitol Bldg enough days in his term to establish that record.   In fact, since taking his Senate seat, he&#8217;s spent two out of his three years campaigning.  DOH!   </p>
<p>Never mind.  Maybe he had a very expensive FIRST year.  Uh, that would be over $800 per person.  Now where have I heard that figure before?</p>
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		<title>By: MataHarley</title>
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		<dc:creator>MataHarley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 04:08:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doug, it is you who can&#039;t see it.  You are going on $ per person as a gauge of earmarks.  Even in the AP article you linked, and from the text you quote, she has reduced the $ per person.

But let&#039;s look at that &quot;per person&quot; measure.  Alaska&#039;s population is the 2nd smallest in the nation.  Only Wyoming has less, per stats.

However Alaska&#039;s population per sq mile is only 1.1.. the smallest.  Translation, lots of land, few population.  And a transportation nightmare when you consider roads and permafrost.  These guys are literally rebuilding roads annually.

The only thing &quot;rotten in Denmark&quot; is your inability to translate a pundit&#039;s mischaracterization of money and needs, and your refusal to see she even reduced that... put in plain English.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Palin actually reduced the state government’s requests for special projects this year to 31 earmarks totaling $198 million, about $295 person, in the wake of President Bush’s demand for a cutback in earmarks.

The state government’s earmark requests to Congress in her first year in office exceeded $550 million, more than $800 per resident. But there’s only so much Palin could do with state bureaucrats used to a free-flowing spigot of federal dollars from Washington.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

First year in office, and no where near the halls of Congress where Stevens and company were busy getting cash, is the first year stats.  Takes some time to buck the big boys and establishment, ya know.

Now, as I said, why don&#039;t you show us that... after she reduced the amount of money they were getting from Congress she deemed wasteful... that she wasted what she got from federal spending.

Then why don&#039;t you compare that to your state for us, eh?  Here&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0004986.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;the population by state, including the amount of people per sq. &lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  Why not do some math for us, then show us her wasteful spending habits.

Until then, you&#039;re still looking up at that lamp post, guy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Doug, it is you who can&#8217;t see it.  You are going on $ per person as a gauge of earmarks.  Even in the AP article you linked, and from the text you quote, she has reduced the $ per person.</p>
<p>But let&#8217;s look at that &#8220;per person&#8221; measure.  Alaska&#8217;s population is the 2nd smallest in the nation.  Only Wyoming has less, per stats.</p>
<p>However Alaska&#8217;s population per sq mile is only 1.1.. the smallest.  Translation, lots of land, few population.  And a transportation nightmare when you consider roads and permafrost.  These guys are literally rebuilding roads annually.</p>
<p>The only thing &#8220;rotten in Denmark&#8221; is your inability to translate a pundit&#8217;s mischaracterization of money and needs, and your refusal to see she even reduced that&#8230; put in plain English.</p>
<blockquote><p>Palin actually reduced the state government’s requests for special projects this year to 31 earmarks totaling $198 million, about $295 person, in the wake of President Bush’s demand for a cutback in earmarks.</p>
<p>The state government’s earmark requests to Congress in her first year in office exceeded $550 million, more than $800 per resident. But there’s only so much Palin could do with state bureaucrats used to a free-flowing spigot of federal dollars from Washington.</p></blockquote>
<p>First year in office, and no where near the halls of Congress where Stevens and company were busy getting cash, is the first year stats.  Takes some time to buck the big boys and establishment, ya know.</p>
<p>Now, as I said, why don&#8217;t you show us that&#8230; after she reduced the amount of money they were getting from Congress she deemed wasteful&#8230; that she wasted what she got from federal spending.</p>
<p>Then why don&#8217;t you compare that to your state for us, eh?  Here&#8217;s <a href="http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0004986.html" rel="nofollow"><b>the population by state, including the amount of people per sq. </b></a>  Why not do some math for us, then show us her wasteful spending habits.</p>
<p>Until then, you&#8217;re still looking up at that lamp post, guy.</p>
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		<title>By: doug</title>
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		<dc:creator>doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 04:00:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MH, you have not sense of irony, do you? 

This is prima facie evidence that &#039;things are rotten in Denmark&#039;, if you can see it here, then you can&#039;t see it anywhere.

Later post: It&#039;s not just me, MH. This is the perception that is out there. That&#039;s why the AP ran it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>MH, you have not sense of irony, do you? </p>
<p>This is prima facie evidence that &#8216;things are rotten in Denmark&#8217;, if you can see it here, then you can&#8217;t see it anywhere.</p>
<p>Later post: It&#8217;s not just me, MH. This is the perception that is out there. That&#8217;s why the AP ran it.</p>
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		<title>By: MataHarley</title>
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		<dc:creator>MataHarley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 03:55:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Forgot to add, Doug.  It you want to make your point, why don&#039;t you show us where Palin has ABUSED federal funds in spending for Alaska&#039;s needs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Forgot to add, Doug.  It you want to make your point, why don&#8217;t you show us where Palin has ABUSED federal funds in spending for Alaska&#8217;s needs.</p>
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